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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:22 PM
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National Identification - Please discuss
Is it coming. Are you for or against? Thanks.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:23 PM
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1. Sign of the apocolypse. nt.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:29 PM
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2. Yep. nt
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:59 PM
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6. How so?
I don't mean to be confrontational. I'd just like some idea of what makes you and others say that.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:37 PM
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3. without it, we will never have a universal health care plan or
true immigration control. A biometric GOOD ID would identify who was a citizen and who was not.. Without the way to differentiate who is and who is NOT a citizen, it's going to be very difficult to determine who is eligible to work here and who is eligible for health care..

Americans cannot just go to Canada and get health care or a job..

We have faux-anonymity , but little more ..
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:40 PM
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5. We already have Social Security numbers for any of that.
Saying we need National IDs in addition to it is just authoritarian bullshit.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 04:38 PM
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4. Maybe, and against, it's unnecessary authoritarian bullshit. - n/t
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tiptoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 05:05 PM
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7. Against: too easy opportunity for computer abuse/shenanigans/crimes...a la Election Fraud.
Edited on Tue Sep-18-07 05:06 PM by tiptoe
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 05:07 PM
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8. for who?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-18-07 05:47 PM
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9. Criminals Will Have a Field Day with RFIDs
I thnk Faraday-cage wallets will be the next big fashion accessory.
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