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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:23 PM
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I am a member of MOVE ON. ORG and I have been condemned
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 01:44 PM by Generic Other
by my country's leaders. What the hell does this mean?

Am I going to be monitored? Spied on? Incarcerated? Deported?

Anyone else on DU riding this bus with me today?

on edit:

Photos posted by DUers from the MoveOn.Org Cindy Sheehan vigils. These are the faces Congress condemned.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4384022
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:25 PM
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1. Like Stephen Colbert said last night:
BRING IT ON.
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:21 PM
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30. It's a Republican trick. Don't get mad at Democrats who voted Yes.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 02:21 PM by Eric J in MN
That is what the Republicans want.

The resolution conflates a general with the troops:

To express the sense of the Senate that General David H. Petraeus, Commanding General, Multi-National Force-Iraq, deserves the full support of the Senate and strongly condemn personal attacks on the honor and integrity of General Petraeus and all members of the United States Armed Forces.


That way, a Senator like Amy Klobuchar can vote Yes and get activists like us mad, or vote No and Republicans can run ads saying she thinks "all members of the United States Armed Forces" lack "integrity."

I've decided I'm not getting mad at Democrats over this resolution.
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:26 PM
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43. Well, I am mad at the Dems that voted "Yes" to condemn free speech...They are weak and they got
suckered again by the Repukes who do it to them again and again and again...They get so worried that they will be labeled unpatriotic or not supporting the troops, so they capitulate...

Well, I'm sick of it and I and everyone should be angry at these Dems and to the party for continueing to show up to a street fight thinking they are playing Chess. It's a STREET FIGHT!!! There are knifes and everything seems to go from the point of view of the GOP and yet there are the Dems...wanting to debate whether they have a checkmate or not....

:puke:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:25 PM
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2. Sarah Heartburn n/t
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:25 PM
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3. Hell-I'm with you,and determined to expose their hypocrisy and false outrage
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:26 PM
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4. I'm on the bus. I boarded today with a contribution.
I'll sit with you and we can enjoy the ride together. :hi:
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:26 PM
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5. So am I and my reaction is to donate even more money to MoveOn, PFAW, TrueMajority, the
ACLU, and other liberal causes and organizations.
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Kutjara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:26 PM
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6. You might end up in the internment camp first...
...but the rest of us will be joining you sooner or later.
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:40 PM
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19. by then, all the best bunkspots will already be taken by move_on members!
Just one more reason to join up while we can... :D
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:27 PM
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7. I am a member also.
And like you I feel betrayed.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:27 PM
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8. I am a member of Move On and I disagreed with "how" they framed their criticism of Petraus
I do not have a probelem with the vote. Flame away!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:28 PM
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9. I consider my condemnation to be a badge of honor
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:31 PM
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12. We need "Condemned By Congress" t-shirts!!!
I want one!!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:32 PM
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15. That's an excellent idea!
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:58 PM
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46. I just wrote to MoveOn to suggest they offer them
Maybe if a number of us did this, they'd consider it. You could - of course - design your own at Zazzle, but I'd much rather MoveOn got the money.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:28 PM
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10. how about the ACLU I am card carrying member also.
are they coming after me?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:29 PM
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11. Donate $29.47 to MoveOn.org
Fuck the Republickers. I just donated $29.47 to MoveOn.org

I chose the amount of $29.47 in honor of Barbara Boxer's Amendement number 2947 to the Repuke bill.
https://pol.moveon.org/donate/donate.html

More:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1856539
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:01 AM
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48. I did!!
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:31 PM
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13. I don't care
if they are going to spy on little ol' me this country isn't worth it, at least I go down fighting.

Why did they even allow this vote to come to the floor?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 08:34 AM
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53. Apparently, there was no procedural way to stop it because it was an amendment to another bill. n/t
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:32 PM
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14. YEah, look who's doing the freakin'
condemning. Look where they got us ..look where the country is. Run by a bunch greedy power-shittin' assholes.

Did anyone not vote for the condemnation? And did the Boxer, Durbin Amendment get in?

I'm late for work so that's why I'm asking all these quick questions. :(
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:33 PM
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16. It was a stupid "freedom fries" gratuitous kind of vote.
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 01:34 PM by The_Casual_Observer
They can't do shit to MoveON.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:37 PM
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17. Yea, ha - thanks for that reminder
hopefully this will wind up as embarrassing to them at that little faux pax.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:37 PM
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18. Who didn't vote for this? 25 of them? Anyione know who?
I am so disgusted. Like we deserved condemnation for anything we have done. Pales in comparison to their culpability.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:41 PM
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20. You haven't been condemned.
It's all political fluffery. It doesn't mean anything. Just ignore it. There are far more important things to worry about. Democrats always go over the top to make sure they say they "support the troops" because otherwise the Rethugs just thump them. Meanwhile, putting MoveOn in the news is a nice little fundraiser for them (which ultimately will help the Dems).

Don't even get flustered by this. It's nothing.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:43 PM
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21. No every member of that group has a right to be outraged
We are patriots.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:58 PM
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25. Here they are:
NAYs ---25
Akaka (D-HI)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Murray (D-WA)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 04:23 PM
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37. cantwell's office said she missed the vote.
what about obama? what was his excuse?
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:18 PM
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28. Sure, I'm just telling you to pick your battles and look into the politics of this
If you really want to be mad, go ahead. I'm just saying it's political fluff and isn't any kind of personal threat to you. But by all means take action by donating to MoveOn and things like that... that's a good way to fight this. Call Congresspeople, too. I'm all for it.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:46 PM
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44. I'm mad because the dems control what gets voted on. They voted on this piece of junk
straight out of bush's mouth right after voting on taking away fisa court oversight away, but are not pressing for votes on ending the war, for example. They are doing Bush's bidding over and over. They do not have to do this. For soem strange reason they believe it will be good for elections a year and a half away. meanwhile people are dying! and democracy is dying!
They should be voting on censuring Petraus who lied about weapons of mass destruction instead of playing bush's game. This whole Iraq week was a stupid political game with grave consequences.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 03:16 AM
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51. Amen! I'm mad about all that, too!
Couldn't have said it better, myself.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:46 PM
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22. I'm about ready to rejoin MoveON. No way can you be more censured
than me. :evilgrin:

Seriously, we should try to get as many people as possible to sign up JUST TO PISS OFF these mofos. (Yes, that's an intentionally vague term.)

:)
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:49 PM
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23. And, I just did. n/t
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:10 PM
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26. Yay, I'll save ya a seat to Gitmo
Do you look good in orange coveralls?

Such a proud day for all Americans when freepers rub elbows at the white house and the people of conscience stand begging for crumbs of justice outside the landlord's door.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:25 PM
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32. Orange -- the color of faked democracy!
I'm trying really hard not to let myself get angry but to get effective.

Don't have the luxury of personal outrage any more. Miss that! :hi:
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:51 PM
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24. I am also a member of Moveon and I've been condemned too.
I am very very pissed.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:14 PM
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27. Courage my friend
Our Friend Hillary did not vote against moveon. She is such a liberal progressive!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:20 PM
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29. All Progressive should join the Green Party.
The Democratic Party does not represent Progressives. Why stay in a org. that shuns you?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:39 PM
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35. lol! I actually just signed a petition at Moveon regarding the vote
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 02:40 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and in the note section I thanked Hillary and Chuck for voting correctly!

And as Hillary being a Liberal Progressive?????? No comment. I'm exhausted, it's been an emotionally hard few days and
mdmc!!! Hi!!!!!!!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:22 PM
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31. I just gave to Move On
look, we can be afraid or choose to live free

In the sum of things, this is just one more step towards that dark night, a small, almost symboilic one
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 03:04 PM
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36. Hooray for true friends in arms
We condemned must stick togther! :)
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:27 PM
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33. no.
it means your ad pissed some people off, nothing more.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:30 PM
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34. kick
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:21 PM
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38. monitored even more, you mean? see you on the bus! i'd be
honored to be on there with you, dear GO.

:hi:


peace and solidarity, always!!
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nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:49 PM
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39. our candlelight vigil thread, sigh... thank you so much for
reminding us all!!

:kick:


peace
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:41 PM
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40. It was the first time I ever wanted to slap a president.
I'm totally with you. I had a visceral reaction when Mister Bush put his stupid little grinning evil face into the cameras and shamed us. How dare he! As though this isn't my country too. Well I live here. I vote here. I pay taxes here. And I'm staying here. And you had better fucking get used to it. And then some, if I can help it. You bastard.

Tonight I came away from that speech he gave with the distinct impression that Bush hates his mother and his father, and we're paying for it.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:51 PM
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41. Bus rider here:
Edited on Thu Sep-20-07 10:52 PM by Hissyspit
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1864978
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The Vinyl Ripper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:53 PM
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42. I would wear it as a badge of pride..
The measure of a man can be taken by who his enemies are..
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:55 PM
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45. That's all right. Your inquisitor will show you to your cave.


If you haven't sinned*, you have nothing to worry about.

*sins include but are not limited to: abortion, using birth control, blasphemy, belief in evolution, belief in science, reading harry potter, masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, nasal sex, naval sex, sex, naughty thoughts, nasty thoughts, looking at naughty pictures, looking at nasty pictures, being a naughty, nasty boy like Senator Craig called Bill Clinton, farting in elevators, listening to Heavy Metal, listening to the Dead if you're not Ann Coulter, listening to any music that isn't the Nuge, being gay, performing a gay wedding, performing at a gay wedding, catering a gay wedding, doing the calligraphy for the invitations to a gay wedding, putting a darwin fish on your car, putting a darwin fish on your bike, riding a bike, walking, shopping at Costco, etc.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 12:12 AM
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47. k&r
:hug: :yourock:
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:02 AM
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49. I am a member of MOVE ON. ORG and I have been condemned by the Senator I voted for
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:05 AM
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52. then you are a friend of mine!
welcome aboard!!
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:05 AM
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50. I was a passive member of MoveOn til Thursday. Made two donations in this sleep cycle.
Bless those MoveOn folks!
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