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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:10 AM
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Poll question: Are you on the verge on bankruptcy?
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 10:27 AM by Flabbergasted
Thanks to WillyT

From Freeper thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1874527&mesg_id=1874527


Allow me to “deconstruct” thier “model” for raising money. Most of the donators are either government-employees, students who are federal-loan recipients, and or entitlement dead-beats. Thus, the percentage of MoveOn.Org donators have salaries/incomes that are directly tied to increases in taxation/goverment spending.




You are correct. I surf over at DU from time to time. I am always amazed by the number of them that are just one step ahead of having to file bankrucpty or getting kicked out of their double wide for non-payment of rent; yet these loons always have $25 to $50 to send to moveon.org and DU.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1874527&mesg_id=1874527
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:16 AM
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1. THEY ARE JUST PROJECTING AGAIN
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:19 AM
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2. That's the funniest thing
I've read today. I thought freeperville went bankrupt because they couldn't keep up their website? Did they get the bucks together?

"Doublewide trailers"..they obviously don't even have any clues, do they?
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:20 AM
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3. well, if you mean me personally, no. but the USA is
have you looked at the Dollar lately? check out this little snip from an article I just read.

Consider this: In 2000, when Bush took office, gold was $273 per ounce, oil was $22 per barrel and the euro was worth $.87 per dollar. Currently, gold is over $700 per ounce, oil is over $80 per barrel, and the euro is nearly $1.40 per dollar. If Bernanke cuts rates, we’re likely to see oil at $125 per barrel by next spring.

Inflation is soaring. The government statistics are thoroughly bogus. Gold, oil and the euro don’t lie. According to economist Martin Feldstein, “The falling dollar and rising food prices caused market-based consumer prices to rise by 4.6 per cent in the most recent quarter.” (WSJ)

That’s 18.4 per cent a year, and yet Bernanke is still considering cutting interest rates and further fueling inflation.

What about the American worker whose wages have stagnated for the last six years? Inflation is the same as a pay-cut for him. And how about the pensioner on a fixed income? Same thing. Inflation is just a hidden tax progressively eroding his standard of living.


http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2007/09/banks-brace-for-storm-surge-as-dollar-and-credit-system-reel/
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:21 AM
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4. Peace rally in Trailer G - 4pm. n/t
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:21 AM
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5. No, but I get paid from taxpayer money and use it to teach science and do research
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 10:22 AM by electron_blue
so I'm still one big nightmare to them.

I also manage to invest money for my future. I'm sure they must hate that.
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:24 AM
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6. No bankruptcy here.
Thanks for asking.
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blueknight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:26 AM
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8. not even remotely close
and i could probably buy and sell 90% of them...lol
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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 08:34 AM
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20. Hey, if the price is right...
...you can probably rent me. (For strictly legal purposes, of course. I don't do crime.)
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:25 AM
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7. I'm a federal retiree who gets paid by the "taxpayers" and donate to leftwing causes.
And, my wife is a retired State employee who is paid by the taxpayers. And, she donates to leftwing causes.

Suck it up fascists.
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SaveOurDemocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:28 AM
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9. Freeps brains are bankrupt of gray matter. n/t
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:33 AM
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10. Everything you ever wanted to know about DUers
From Skinner's journal.

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Skinner/182

And a direct link to the incomes of DUers.

http://www.blogreaderproject.com/Blogs/democratic-underground?q=5

3.7% Make $0-10K

4.9% Make $10K-20K

10.1% Make $20K-30K

13% Make $30k-45k

15.5% Make $45-60K

Etc., Etc, it's all there at the link above.


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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:38 AM
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11. Manager for a Fortune 100 Company
and own four investment properties. Some of my tenants are double-wide types, but AFAIK they're not usually Democrats.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:46 AM
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12. Actually, no.
Edited on Sat Sep-22-07 10:48 AM by liberalmuse
I've been rather poor most of my life, and it's true that it's been hard for me to donate in the past, but right now, I'm making almost twice as much money as I was a year ago. All I had to do was move from the reddest state in the nation to the bluest state in the nation. Also, I can donate more to DU, and MoveOn, and it will be a lot more than the Freeps think. From the looks of what they've been posting about DUers, I'd say they were projecting big time.

On edit: I should also say that I've kept my expenses down so they are actually less than what they were in the red state, and I don't pay state taxes to boot.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:48 AM
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13. I grew up in Bellingham.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:56 AM
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15. Lucky you!
I wish I had moved up here 15 years ago when I first wanted to. Now I'm just one of those annoying transplants adding to the congestion. It's like night and day from Salt Lake, though I love Rocky Anderson and some of the hardcore liberals that live in the heart of the city. Are you still up in Bellingham? I'm in Bothell.
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Flabbergasted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:05 PM
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17. I heard Salt Lake City is less conservative than its give credit for.
I moved from Bellingham about 12 years ago. I live in Portland now. I hope to move back within the next year or two.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 10:53 AM
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14. Yes, we're the ones who live in trailer parks.
Um, who are the ones with all the guns and are fond of shooting cute animals for entertainment/food?

Most liberals are urban or suburban, not rural. Not say that we don't like our rural friends, but it's just there are fewer of us out in the middle of nowhere.
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Nay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 11:51 AM
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16. Ha! Not hardly. Mr Nay and I have a combined income of $150,000
per year, own 2 houses (one for Sonny Nay and his kids), and have no debts other than a very small mortgage that will be paid off in 6 years. And I send off a lot more than $25 to the ACLU, Moveon, Dem candidates, etc.

As others have said, this is projection, pure and simple. 90% of the trailer dwellers vote Republican every time. Not much gray matter upstairs, you see -- thus the pub voting and the trailer.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:09 PM
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18. No, not even close
I just purchased my first home a few months ago. Have no credit card debt. Have decent credit score. Not anywhere close to bankruptcy.

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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 12:09 PM
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19. A friend explained the meaning of "double-wide" to me
It's two ocean-front lots on Hilton Head with a suitable home built on it.

It reminded me of an expression about immigrants from HongKong: "Middle-class Chinese with 10 to 20 million dollars to invest".
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-24-07 09:23 AM
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21. It's tough due to medical bills and inflation, but so far, no bankruptcy.
Edited on Mon Sep-24-07 09:40 AM by haele
I don't do credit cards on principal, so even though we may be living paycheck to paycheck due to close to $1K a month on doctors, therapy, and meds for the two disabled people in the household, and there's a few months where the pickin's are rather lean, we can survive and potentially get ahead. So long as 1) I don't lose my job, 2) we don't have any more emergencies that we have to make payments on to pay off and 3) inflation doesn't spiral up out of control. Even if the latter happens, we'll just have to make do like everyone else - including most Freepers - eh?
Living simply, no credit cards, no new toys - gee, sounds like as responsible as possible personal financing.

BTW, have you seen some of those double-wides? Plop one on a half acre city property, invest in a little landscaping and you couldn't tell the difference between a nice, $100K double-wide and your normal neighborhood suburban 2 bedroom, 2 bath house. I've seen some that can mimic anything between a 1940 craftsman house to a 1970's stucco tract home - lots of people in California will replace seriously damaged houses with a upper-end double-wide dropped onto the existing slab. And many are better made - to a stricter building code - than having a construction corporation charge you twice as much for a "manufactured" tract home. The costs for inspection and certification tend to be less, too.

Heck, I'd love the high end double wide I just saw for sale near one of the kidlet's friends home - 2 bedrooms, 1100 sq. ft "craftsman style" with a full porch, solar panels for the water heater, skylights, hardwood and tile floors, master bath with spa tub, full kitchen, fireplace, with a decent sized carport and "back and side yard" that included 2 fruit trees and a veggie bed. In a nice, somewhat isolated terraced "park" up the side of a city canyon complete with ocean view. For $120K and $350 a month lot/utilities rental. With most houses averaging $400 - $500K, that's quite a steal...

Haele
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