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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 01:53 PM Original message |
They are not "contractors" they are mercenaries. Yes mercenaries are |
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daninthemoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
1. 180,000 "contractors", 170,000 US troops. Unimaginable. I don't |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #1 |
19. How many of these contractors are 1) "security forces" ; |
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tuckessee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #19 |
47. 48,000 security contractors in Iraq according to the US Gov't |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
2. good point, - the focus groups |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
3. Contractors have been hired to work in Iraq. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Do those guys work for Blackwater? |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
4. Yeah but then the Senate would vote to condemn you |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
5. This was a subject of discussion last night on Bill Maher.. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. "christian fundamentalist" convert to Catholicism. Interesting, that. |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Is this "Opus Dei" - the corporate based Catholicism - |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. Yep. That's them. Read up on "The Order of the Spur" too. |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. It's my SCA coat of arms from back in the day... |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Not hijacking here either; my last question on this: Sorry, SCA? |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. SCA - Society for Creative Anachronisms |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
44. Slight correction on the Halliburton comments... |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. KBR is the big money maker for the once bankrupt Halliburton |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. Unlike the troops, they can go home anytime they want to |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. I refer to them as War Profiteers. nt |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. But that is usually used for industrialist. Mercenaries work for them. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
9. This generation's "military advisors". |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
12. Exactly the point Jeremy Scahill made to Dorgan's senate committee yesterday |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Let's put pressure on the media and on progressive commentators to |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. I was very happy to see that Olbermann jumped right on it |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 06:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. It's got to jump from cable to the three big |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
15. Mercenaries aren't known as the scum of the earth for nothing. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
16. Some contractors are contractors. Blackwater people are merc. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. There's not much if any reconstruction going on. Most now is |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Some do food service, telecommunication, other support services too. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Much of the domestic chores are outsourced to south Asians. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
18. just look at them! Hired Fucking Killers! |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Tell me what the difference between Blackwater and al Qaeda is, please. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I can not think of any |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. To the extent that this country has not only enriched Oil Royalty |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
49. Blackwater is just doing it for money. IMO that makes them worse. n/t |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Adrenaline junkies. nt |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. You come out of the military with a very narrow skill set. I remember |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I know. I taught in public high schools. God forgive "us"! |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Some people believe the economic policies were made to funnel people |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I know some very old, experienced Educators who believe that. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 08:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. you don't want some kid from the working class competing with your |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 05:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Current economic policies do that - |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. I lived well with our janitorial service back in the 90's. I knew that |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. I call them the Merchants of Death. |
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here_is_to_hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
38. Just reported Iraq has video |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 06:55 PM Response to Original message |
39. Let me tell you people what ex Navy SEAL's do in peacetime |
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haele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. I know a couple ex-SEAL E-5's and E-6's that got out before retirement - |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 09:38 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. If those positions are still there. Returning soldiers and sailors |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Its not just the boom or the boxcars, its how do you go back to a menial job |
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PDenton (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 03:16 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Rambo quote: |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 04:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Theres a lot to that quote, it wouldn't surprise me if the screenwriter |
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PDenton (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:06 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Ramo was based on a novel |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. A man who faced death is not going to want to put on a paper hat |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
46. kick |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
48. See... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. So we are correct calling them mercenaries even if they are truck drivers. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. If they're also 'combatants' and not nationals of the U.S. ... yes. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #54 |
61. bush would call them "illegal enemy combatants." |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Yes ... but it should be noticed ... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. That's why I support charging bush and his junta with crimes |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. I agree 100% ... and regard it as a MINIMUM standard of justice. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Torches and Pitchforks!!!! |
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RedG1 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
50. same as "insurgents:...they are Freedom Fighters defending their invaded country |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:24 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. England used mercenaries against us. Hessians were |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
53. They are SERVANTS to corporacrats. They are blindly for hire by global thugs. n/t |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
56. Yes, I agree. Call a spade a spade. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. The Republicans are good a framing. We shouldn't accept their frames. |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. Exactly. I ain't letting them get away with using nice soft words to describe |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-24-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. They lie with a twist, a subtle change. Language as white wash. |
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DemReadingDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
67. afternoon kick |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-26-07 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
70. "Security Company Death Squads Timeline by Dirk Adriaensens and Sarah Meyer" |
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