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Cruzan Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:25 PM
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"Without nepotism, Hillary would be running for the president of Vassar. "
“She’s never going to get out of our faces. ... She’s like some hellish housewife who has seen something that she really, really wants and won’t stop nagging you about it until finally you say, fine, take it, be the damn president, just leave me alone.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/30/opinion/30dowd.html
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:28 PM
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1. Worked for Bush2.
Of course, the fascist media helped out alot on that score.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:39 PM
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17. My thoughts exactly
He'd be running a burger joint--badly--without nepotism.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:29 PM
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2. Yeah. It's not like she's been senator of a big state or anything.
:eyes:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:30 PM
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3. 'hellish housewife'? Sexism lives in the NYT.
:eyes:
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:31 PM
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6. It's an op-ed piece.
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:33 PM
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10. And Dowd was quoting Leon Wieseltier, the literary editor of The New Republic. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:34 PM
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And even sans the quote
Dowd is a terrible writer. Just fuggin awful.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:34 PM
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13. As Leon Wieseltier, the literary editor of The New Republic, once told me: “She’s never going to get
As Leon Wieseltier, the literary editor of The New Republic, once told me: “She’s never going to get out of our faces. ... She’s like some hellish housewife who has seen something that she really, really wants and won’t stop nagging you about it until finally you say, fine, take it, be the damn president, just leave me alone.”
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:20 PM
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24. Reason #3,478 on why I don't subscribe to the New Republic. nt
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:30 PM
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4. Leon Wieseltier, the literary editor of The New Republic,...
That's who was quoted.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:31 PM
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5. Poor MoDo - try as she might, she'll never be Wonkette.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:02 PM
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20. And she made her name with two magic words "ass fucking."
Imagine having to look back on your long career, and realize that was your way of gaining attention!!!
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:32 PM
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7. I'm not a Hillary fan, but I don't get the nepotism thing.
She was never in a paid government position when Bill was president. She wasn't appointed to the Senate, she had to earn that two times. She may have been extremely fortunate to be in the right place at the right time, but the claim of nepotism is way off.

In fact, the nepotism comments should be applied to Bush*, since he has been bailed out of many screw ups.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:04 PM
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22. Exactly -- good post
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:32 PM
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8. Well maybe, she is after all the smartest woman in the world and has
...almost every right winger male soiling their pants at the mere mention of her name, both her married name and her former single man, most often seen as written out and spoken as one today. :hurts: :spray: :rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:32 PM
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9. "without nepotism, W. would be pumping gas in Midland — and not out of the ground."
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:33 PM
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11. don't forget the next line...
"But then, without nepotism, W. would be pumping gas in Midland — and not out of the ground."


Hillary at least was a brilliant attorney first. (she was named one of the top 50 most influential young attorneys in the country when she was practicing in friggin LITTLE ROCK, back in the day.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:37 PM
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15. Demeaning Hillary is a well-paid industry.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:33 PM
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12. "the Texas president has been sending the New York senator messages to"
“maintain some political wiggle room in your campaign rhetoric about Iraq,” "


What? George has been sending messages to Hillary?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:34 PM
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14. Dowd. Of course.
I wondered where that obsessed, sexist hatred was coming from. Maureen has never yet been able to say a good word about Hillary.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:41 PM
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18. "I recognize the lion by the print of its paw"...
... Or in this case, the harpy by the smell of its shit.
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 02:37 PM
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16. It was a good article making good points. This was the shittiest thing in it.
And the thing almost guaranteed to make me want to support Hillary. If the goal was to turn people against her, this wasn't the comment to highlight.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:00 PM
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19. I don't even want to click on that link!!!! It sounds like the rantings of an envious shrew!
Just the phrase "hellish housewife" more than suggests an agenda. Good grief.

Without nepotism, who knows where she might have gone, and what she might have done?

Assume she was Miss Rodham, Attorney at Law, working on the Watergate Committee, without hooking up with that guy from Arkansas.

Anyone who thinks she would have set her sights low is pretty obtuse, incredibly petty, maybe even jealous. I always did get the sense that she held her own ambitions back to help her husband. Without him, she'd probably be -- at the least -- on her fifth or sixth Senate term, maybe not from NY, but who knows, really.

Bill didn't make her, they made each other.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:03 PM
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21. Whatever -- sexist tripe
No matter what you think of her stance on issues, HRC is intelligent, educated, and was a successful lawyer. She probably would have been a judge, a state supreme court justice, managing partner of a large firm, or a state senator. Oh... wait.....
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:09 PM
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23. Couldn't you say this about Chimpy, Jeb, Elizabeth Dole, etc.?
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-30-07 03:22 PM
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25. TR, jr., Kermit Roosevelt, FDR, ER, FDRjr,? nt
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