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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 05:54 AM
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Lockerbie: and here omes the next! FBI offered me $4m: Lockerbie bomb witness
Remeber two days ago:

Revealed: CIA offered $2m to Lockerbie witness and brother
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1980744


And now comes this!
"FBI offered me $4m: Lockerbie bomb witness"

"A WITNESS in the Lockerbie case has claimed he was offered $4 million (£2 million) by American investigators to lie to the trial judges.

Edwin Bollier, head of the Swiss company MEBO that was said to have manufactured the timer used to detonate the Pan Am bomb, claims he was offered the money by the FBI at its Washington HQ in exchange for making a statement that supported the main line of inquiry - that Libya was responsible for the bombing.

He has told Dr Hans Koechler, who was a UN observer during the trial of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi in the Netherlands, that he was offered a "new life" in the United States if he testified that the timer found in the plane wreckage had been supplied to Libya.

"I rejected this and said this could not possibly be the case," he said. He added that there was a "loud dispute" after he rejected the offer.

The claim follows news that the Maltese shopkeeper Tony Gauci, whose evidence led to Megrahi's conviction, was offered $2 million by the CIA."


Remember:

CIA planted false evidence
Several DIA agents ready to speak out revealing hidden CIA drugs activities died aboard the plane.

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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 09:04 AM
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1. Ups
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 09:58 AM
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2. Big, developing story - let's recall some recent items...
Andre, please add a link to the story you quote.

It's been two years since the former Scottish police chief came forward to say the CIA planted the piece of circuit board at the crux of the U.S. case against Libya - corroborating a former CIA agent who said the agency had written the script for incriminating Libya.

I'm not sure if either of these fellows has been named in the meantime, but thanks to them a Scottish review board earlier this year recommended a new trial for Megrahi, the Libyan convicted of bombing the Pan Am flight in 1989.

More came out this week about how the CIA offered millions to the key witnesses in the case against Megrahi - a piece of information the prosecution forgot to tell the defense, as would have been required.

More here
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x177149
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 02:58 PM
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3. Planted evidence
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JackRiddler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 10:18 PM
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16. No - the offer of $4 mil to Edwin Bollier n/t
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:53 AM
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25. Sorry see post 1! n/t
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 03:40 PM
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4. But our government would never lie to us especially about bombs
Edited on Sun Oct-07-07 03:41 PM by seemslikeadream
and planes and terrorists and stuff like that, would they?
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 04:24 PM
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5. Good grief, surely you aren't hinting
that just because the evidence continues to mount they lied about the circumstances surrounding the downing of Pan Am Flt 103, it's not out of line to assume they could also lie through their teeth about, say, the events leading up to 9/11? I'm shocked!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 04:26 PM
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6. oh no not me no way and
Edited on Sun Oct-07-07 04:27 PM by seemslikeadream
I have no idea how to get to the dungeon from here so don't ask me for directions
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 04:44 PM
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8. And I am also sure that we know the whole truth about Oklahoma
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 04:38 PM
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7. Good question
but the better question is have we ever been told the truth.
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stubtoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 04:56 PM
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9. K&R
This is one of those articles you read where you hope it's not true, but that sinking feeling tells you it might be otherwise.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 05:22 PM
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10. Our country has become a nation of liars and crooks.
Edited on Sun Oct-07-07 06:00 PM by The Backlash Cometh
Crooks and liars. "Life is a political campaign."

And they wonder what happened to American apple pie.

SOME FUCKER ATE IT!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 05:31 PM
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11. I am sceptical about this story.
Would the CIA offer $Millions to people or would they employ pressure instead?
The CIA Agents could have said something like: "If you don't do what we tell you to do,
harm could befall you, your family & friends. We can keep that from happening."
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 05:50 PM
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12. I believe the DIA agents were headed straight to Congress...
to present evidence that could have cracked open some of the Iran/Contra-related drug connections. This was a big deal to the CIA. Arms trading is one thing, but people would not have tolerated drug dealing.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 06:01 PM
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13. .
Edited on Sun Oct-07-07 06:09 PM by seemslikeadream
As Oliver North had pioneered the use of the counter-terrorism office in dealing with narco-terrorists like Monzer al-Kassar (connected to the Pan Am explosion over Lockerbie), would it be such a stretch to posit that the counter-terror apparatus - this time under Richard Clarke and John O'Neill - was once again being employed to "work" the corrupt networks wrought by BCCI? Can it be a mere coincidence that the arteries of the bin Laden strain of terrorism were fed not by Iran or Syria - the "traditional" sponsors of the more low-key types of terrorism in the '80's - but rather by those very countries that have long served as agents and proxies of their American-Anglo cohorts in crime: Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and the United Arab Emirates (i.e. the principal countries fronting for BCCI)? Could it be that the mutually corrupt global relationships wrought by BCCI persist to this day, with a bevy of compromised political officials standing ready to make their contribution to the New World Order - and perhaps scam some extra pocket change on the side?



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=125&topic_id=97281&mesg_id=97482

Louis Joseph Minervino
Senior Vice President recently transferred from Guy Carpenter.

http://www.wallofamericans.com/php_files/wall.php?action=person_info&id=1094

In 1988 booked on Pan Am Flight 103 which exploded over Lockerbie, Scotland, but he took a different flight.

http://cf.newsday.com/911/victimsearch.cfm?id=1632




http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/searchResults.jsp?searchtext=Mueller&events=on&entities=on&articles=on&topics=on&timelines=on&projects=on&titles=on&descriptions=on&dosearch=on&search=Go

Robert Mueller's lists of cover ups:
1. Manuel Noriega
2. John Gotti (not mentioned below. major player in drugs)
3. Lockerbie
4. BCCI
5. 9/11



Robert Mueller assumes the job of FBI Director. He had been nominated for the job in July 2001 after Louis Freeh’s unexpected and sudden resignation. Thomas Pickard was interim director for three months. Mueller held a variety of jobs in the Justice Department for over a decade prior to his nomination. Most notably, he led Justice Department investigations into the 1991 collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI) (see July 5, 1991) and the 1988 bombing of Pan-Am Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland.

Mueller was heavily criticized for his role in the BCCI investigation. For instance, a bipartisan Congressional BCCI investigation led by Senators John Kerry (D) and Hank Brown (R) stated, “Unfortunately, as time has passed it has become increasingly clear that the Justice Department did indeed make critical errors in its handling of BCCI ... and moreover masked inactivity in prosecuting and investigating the bank by advising critics that matters pertaining to BCCI were ’under investigation,’ when in fact they were not” and also “(hindered) other legitimate investigative efforts, and (failed) to admit that it had made any of these mistakes.”

Mueller himself noted in 1991 that there was an “appearance of, one, foot-dragging; two, perhaps a cover-up,” but denied the cover-up claims. A Wall Street Journal editorial notes that “Even George W. Bush bumped up against the outer fringes of the BCCI crowd during his tenure with Harken Energy and in his friendship with Texas entrepreneur James Bath,” and opines, “On general principles, our view is that it would be a mistake to appoint as FBI head anyone who had any role in the failed BCCI probe. Too many important questions remain unanswered...”

FBI Director Mueller describes reports that several of the hijackers had received flight training in the US as “news, quite obviously,” adding, “If we had understood that to be the case, we would have perhaps one could have averted this.” It will later be discovered that contrary to Mueller’s claims, the FBI had interviewed various flight school staffs about Middle Eastern militants on numerous occasions, from 1996 until a few weeks before 9/11. Three days later, he says, “There were no warning signs that I’m aware of that would indicate this type of operation in the country.” Slate magazine will contrast this with numerous other contradictory statements and articles, and will award Mueller the “Whopper of the Week.”



http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1350532006
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 10:14 PM
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15. Excellent analysis seemslikeadream...

also, is it not true that the original "al Qaida" database maintained by Osama was a list of rogue intelligence agents and other operatives who were willing to operate beyond their respective spheres of influence in order to profit from criminal activity? Not all were motivated by radical Islamic ideals. Many were former Soviet soldiers fighting in Afghanistan who realized that a killing could be made from distributing heroin and the poppy crop it is derived from. I've always wondered about some of those videos of the mujahadeen: why some of the masked militia look so caucasian.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 10:41 PM
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17. you know I learned alot from that DrDebug
:hi:

I wonder where he's been lately?
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 12:40 AM
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18. Are you checking whether I still lurk?
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 12:42 AM by DrDebug
:hi:

I don't know that many specifics about Lockerbie, except that the official story doesn't hold upto scrutiny of course and that there is not a single indication that Lockerbie has anything to do with Libya, they were just the scapegoats. There are many stories though that the evidence has been planted by the CIA though.

Talking about drugs, a suitcase full of white powder was recovered among the debris

Based on a 1995 Guardian investigation by Paul Foot and John Ashton

By Patrick Barkham
Wednesday April 7, 1999
Guardian Unlimited

D
is for drugs


Lockerbie farmer Jim Wilson found a suitcase full of cellophane packets containing white powder among the debris in his fields. The suitcase was taken away, no explanation was given, and the authorities continued to insist that no drugs (apart from a small quantity of cannabis) had been found on the plane. But it was later discovered that the name Mr Wilson saw on the suitcase did not correspond with any of the names on the Pan Am 103 passenger list.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Lockerbie/Story/0,,740116,00.html


Antifascist:

Excellent! You've got the chops. The only thing I like to add is that Intelligence has been a form of Insitutionalized Organized Crime from the beginning. It has its roots in Skull & Bones, 120 Broadway (currently owned by a certain Larry Silverstein), and crime familia like the Rockefellers and the Bushes. Drug dealing came later and was perfect in the 80s where we not only had the cocaine from South America used for Iran-Contra but at the same time the heroin from Afghanistan was used for a proxy war against the Soviet Union. It is no wonder that both events happened in the same timeframe because the 80s was when Intelligence started the monopoly on the international drug trade.

Kudos for observing that the Russian mafia played a major role in al-Qaeda al-Cokeda because as witnessed by last month's cocaine plane crash, it is this group which seems become a major and major important partner in the overall drug trade. (See: The Global Drug Meta-Group http://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/articles/global-drug.htm ) Also did Bush offer a $1B bribe to sweep this under the rug? ( http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3019988 )

The most important coverup of the BCCI scandal was Clearstream which was an integral part of the BCCI network and the method for large scale money laundering. By merely focusing on BCCI and not on Clearstream which involved even more money, it resulted in no change whatsoever since any bank could take over from BCCI. Clearstream handles 40% of all international money transfer and works as a clearinghouse, because Clearstream has more secret accounts than public accounts, it allows for billions to be laundered especially since only Clearstream and Pentagon have been known to make TRILLION dollar accounting errors.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:42 AM
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20. Great to see you DrDebug...

I'll definitely check out those links. I asked this in a post elsewhere, are there not "white hats" at the NSA who might know something about these transactions? I once lurked at a libertarian website where software developers were developing a highly sophisticated banking system that was not only secret but the data was spread out all over the web in kind of a holographic manner. The implications of this NOW seem terrorfying, considering the neocon types who populated the site.
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:04 AM
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22. Silverstream is probably their newest trick
Clearstream was the old system where 40% of all international money transfers were dumped on a big pile with thousand of secret accounts which were dumping black money and scooping cleaned money. The problem with Clearstream is that has been exposed by two French and one Russian scandal. Rudy Giuliani was fully informed about Clearstream by one of their former directors, however it was completely ignored during the BCCI investigation.

My gut feeling is that Silverstream which is software for electronic transfers is their newest trick. The entire construction of that software is riddled with scandals and it was timed after the first emergence of the Clearstream scandals. It is unclear how Silverstream ties in with the new form of operation, however there was immense pressure to develop that software as quickly as possible and fortunes by major banks and insurance companies were spend to make sure that it would become the industry norm.

Silverstream fits your definition of a enormously complex electronic transfer system which is of course black box software so we have no idea how many backdoors have been integrated in the system.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:41 AM
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23. FYI, as I recall...

a major sponsor was a former member of Gorbachev's cabinet. I don't recall his name.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:50 AM
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24. This looks interesting....
although it came from pravda.info:


There have been reports in mass media about the involvement of the U.S. military in Afghanistan in drug trafficking. I asked the well-known political scientist and specialist on organized crime Vladimir Filin to comment on this.
-Vladimir Ilyich, is it true that Americans are involved in drug business?
-Yes, they are in ideal situation for this. They control the Bagram airfield from where the Air Force transport planes fly to a U.S. military base in Germany. In the last two years this base became the largest transit hub for moving Afghan heroin to other US bases and installations in Europe. Much of it goes to Kosovo in the former Yugoslavia. From there the Kosovo Albanian mafia moves heroin back to Germany and other EU countries.
-Why such a complex arrangement?
Drug traffickers enjoy relative safety in military bases. There is no serious control there. German police cannot work there. However, outside of military bases German law-enforcement is in effect. True, any police can be bought. But the level of corruption in Germany is not as high as, say, in Russia. This is why it is more convenient for Americans to establish distribution centers in other places. I believe that, in time, such centers will move to their military installations in Poznan, Poland, and also in Romania and Bulgaria. Poland is already a EU member. Romania and Bulgaria are expected to be in 2007. Corruption in these countries is almost as high as in Russia.
-How big is American drug traffic to Europe and who is behind it?
-About 15-20 tons of heroin a year. When Poznan become open, I think it could rise to 50, even 70 tons. Behind this business are the CIA and the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency). Actually, this is what they did already in Indochina in the 1960s-70s and in Central America in the 1980s.<96>
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:07 AM
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27. Afghanistan is about opium and not terrorism
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 03:08 AM by DrDebug
The major reason for the war and subsequent occupation of Afghanistan is opium. Afghanistan severely cut back on opium from 2000 onwards leading to a production of only 185 tonnes in 2001 ( http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3476377.stm ). The problem is that very few countries are willing to grow opium, so there is no alternative.

This is what happened, just after the invasion:



And in 2003 it was back to pre-war levels, however that wasn't enough and this year there will be an OVERPRODUCTION which is estamited at 8200 tonnes ( http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2007/08/f58f6951-ad74-4996-bbb3-50fa2dcd7112.html ) and more than the total usage of heroin in the entire world. Afghanistan now accounts for 93% of the total heroin produciton.

And in case you are doubting it, let's hear it from NATO itself:

Nato dumps Afghan opium adverts

Nato forces in Afghanistan say that they have withdrawn paid adverts on a radio station which implied it was acceptable to grow opium poppies.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/6590993.stm


They almost let the cat out of the bag. Of course it isn't just the US and NATO, the new government is well aware of the new economical plan for Afghanistan.


Hamid Karzai's brother is 'major dope dealer'
Monday, December 04, 2006

But by far the most interesting thing he had to say was on the president of Afghanistan.

'Hamid' Karzai's brother in Kabul is a major dope dealer,' he said. 'I can say this without fear of libel.'

Ahmed Wali Karzai, a political representative for Southern Afghanistan, has been frequently linked to the drug trade, an allegation he vehemently denied to the Telegraph last year.

But the Channel 4 team exposed just how open the drugs trade in Afghanistan is at present. It would be no surprise if, as Thomson suggests, it goes right to the very highest level of government.

http://blamerbellbriefs.blogspot.com/2006/12/hamid-karzais-brother-is-major-dope.html
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:28 AM
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28. This is also interesting....
from the London Independent:


The Iraq War is also beneficial to the drug traffic. See the following story from the Balochistan Post, quoting the London Independent: ""BAGHDAD: The city, which had never seen heroin, a deadly addictive drug, until March 2003, is now flooded with narcotics including heroin. According to a report published by London's The Independent newspaper, the citizens of Baghdad complained that the drugs like heroin and cocaine were being peddled on the streets of the Iraqi metropolis. Some reports suggest that the drug and arms trafficking is patronized by the CIA to finance its covert operations worldwide."
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DrDebug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 01:50 AM
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21. I found some interesting research: Lockerbie, Drugs and the CIA

The Oklahoma City Bombing and the Politics of Terror
by David Hoffman
Copyright © 1998 David Hoffman

Published online with the irrevocable permission of the author to republish with attribution on a non-profit basis. (See: http://www.constitution.org/ocbpt/ocbpt.htm )

"The covert operators that I ran with would blow up a 747 with 300 people to kill one person. They are total sociopaths with no conscience whatsoever." - Former Pentagon CID Investigator Gene Wheaton

On 21 December 1988, Pan Am flight 103 was blown up over Lockerbie in Scotland. 270 people died.

Minutes before flight 103 took off from London's Heathrow airport, FBI Assistant Director Oliver 'Buck' Revell took his son and daughter-in-law off the plane. (1)

Revell was an associate of Lt. Colonel Oliver North who was linked to Iran-Contra. (2)

North ‘was a business associate of Syrian arms and drug runner Monzer al-Kassar.’ (3)

Al-Kassar was closely linked with Rifat Assad, brother of Syrian ruler Hafez Assad. Rifat ‘was married to the sister of Ali Issa Dubah, chief of Syrian intelligence, who, along with the Syrian army, controlled most of the opium production in Lebanon's Bekka Valley.’ (4)

Reportedly, al-Kassar was involved in shipping heroin from Lebanon into the USA.

Reportedly, al-Kassar's drug route to the United States was protected by the CIA. (5)

The American Drug Enforcement Agency "was already using Pan Am flights out of Frankfort, Germany, for ‘controlled delivery’ shipments of heroin." (5)

A team led by Major Charles McKee of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), and Matthew Gannon, the CIA's Deputy Station Chief in Beirut, traveled to Lebanon to try to get some hostages released. (6)

According to Juval Aviv, the Lockerbie investigator for Pan Am, McKee's team discovered the illegal CIA drug operation and refused to participate.

According to Aviv, McKee contacted the CIA headquarters but got no reply. McKee and Gannon, ‘against orders... decided to fly home to blow the whistle.’

According to Aviv: 'They had communicated back to Langley the facts and names, and reported their film of the hostage locations. CIA did nothing. No reply. The team was outraged, believing that its rescue and their lives would be endangered by the double dealing.
'By mid-December the team became frustrated and angry and made plans to return to the U.S. with their photos and evidence to inform the government, and to publicize their findings if the government covered up.'

Reportedly Ahmed Jibril (founder and leader of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command ) had a base near Frankfort. Reportedly, Jibril had links to al-Kassar.

Reportedly bomb maker Marwan Abdel Razzack Khreeshat was part of Jibril’s cell. On 26 October Khreesat was arrested and one of his bombs seized. Then Khreesat was mysteriously released. (7)

Former CIA agent Oswald Le Winter stated, "…pressure had come from Bonn… from the U.S. Embassy in Bonn… to release Khreesat." (8)

Reportedly, Khreesat worked for U.S. intelligence. (9)

Allegedly, one of Khreesat's bombs was used to bring down Pan Am flight 103 over Lockerbie.

McKee, Gannon and five other members of their team were killed when Pan Am flight 103 came down over Lockerbie. ? (10, 11)

After the crash

A member of a mountain rescue team said: "We arrived within two hours . We found Americans already there." (12)

According to George Stobbs, a Lockerbie police inspector, "I started to set up a control room, and eleven o'clock and midnight, there was a member of the FBI in the office who came in, introduced herself to me, and sat down — and just sat there the rest of the night. That was it." (13)

Tom Dalyell, a member of British Parliament, stated: "…Absolutely swarms of Americans (were) fiddling with the bodies, and shall we say tampering with those things the police were carefully checking themselves. They weren't pretending, saying they were from the FBI or CIA, they were just 'Americans' who seemed to arrive very quickly on the scene."

Dalyell recalled: "It was… odd and strange that so many people should be involved in moving bodies, looking at luggage, who were not members of the investigating force. What were they looking for so carefully? You know, this was not just searching carefully for loved ones. It was far more than that. It was careful examination of luggage and indeed bodies." (14)

Dr. David Fieldhouse, the local police surgeon, identified Major McKee's body. "I knew that (the identification of) McKee was absolutely correct because of the clothing which correlated closely with the other reports and statements, and the computers that were linked up to Washington." (14)

Jim Wilson, local farmer, told relatives of Pan Am victims that he was present "when the drugs were found." Wilson discovered a suitcase packed with heroin in one of his fields.

One Scottish police officer said that his department had been told to keep an eye out for the drugs early on. He also overheard American personnel say that there was a drug courier on the plane — Khalid Jaffar — one of the Lebanese informants used by the DEA. (15)

Sources and notes:
1. Paul Hudson, head of U.S. Pan Am survivors group, interview with author.
2. North contacted Meese through Admiral Poindexter. Meese informed Revell, who called Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the Criminal Division Mark Richard, and told him: "Please get on top of this; Jensen is giving a heads up to the NSC. Deposition of Mark M. Richard before the Joint Congressional Committees, 8/19/87, quoted in Christic, Op Cit.; Jensen is Deputy Attorney General Lowell Jensen; Kellner is Attorney General Leon Kellner. The rest of the conversation went as follows: "Call Kellner, find out what is up, and advise him that decision should be run by you"; Cockburn, Op Cit., p. 136.
3. As investigative journalist Joel Bainerman writes: Officials said that Al-Kassar maintained offices in Warsaw and was a major broker of the Polish-owned weapons company, Cenzin. The first arms purchase by North from al-Kassar totaling $1 million was sent by boat to an unidentified Caribbean port in the Fall of l985 and was later distributed to the Contra fighters. In April of that year, a second shipment of Polish arms was sold to the CIA as part of this transaction. (Los Angeles Times, 7/17/87, quoted in Joel Bainerman, "Bush Administration's Involvement in Bombing Pan Am 103," Portland Free Press, May/June, 1997. See Bainerman's book, The Crimes of a President, SPI Books, 1992, regarding the illegal deals of George Bush). In another part of the deal, more than $42 million was laundered through BCCI accounts in the Cayman Islands. Al-Kassar earned more than $1 million. Private Eye, 10/25/9l, quoted in Ibid.)
4. Administration officials who discussed these deals said Al-Kassar had clear business links with Abu Nidal's organization, Los Angeles Times, 7/17/87.
5. Jim Berwick, a Pan Am security consultant in London, told Francovich, "An HM Customs officer involved in the investigation of narcotics, left a message for me. I subsequently contacted him and met with him and he advised me that he had been in Frankfort and had been at a meeting of drug enforcement agents in Germany, America and Britain, and that it was well known and discussed at that meeting that Pan Am was the airline that was being used as a drug conduit."
6. According to a special report in Time (April 27, 1992), COREA used the following front companies for its overseas operations: Sevens Mantra Corp., AMA Industries, Wilderwood Video and Condor Television Ltd. The report revealed that Condor did its banking through the First American Bank, a subsidiary of BCCI. (Bainerman, Op Cit. )
7. One interesting piece of evidence was a call to Damascus, Syria, intercepted by authorities, in which Khreesat stated: "I have made some changes to the medicine. It is better and stronger."
8. Pritchard, Op Cit.
9. This also raises the issue of whether Abraham Ahmed, who was released from custody after his mysteriously-timed departure from the U.S. after the Oklahoma City bombing, was an operative of the U.S. Government.
10. Donald Goddard and Lester Coleman, On the Trail of the Octopus (London, Bloomsbury Publishing, LTD., 1993), pp. 143, 201.
11. PBS Frontline investigators believe that the intelligence officers were "a strong secondary target."
12. As British journalist David Ben-Aryeah reported: "Very strange people were at work very early on. Within a matter of three hours there were American accents heard in the town. Over that night there were large numbers, by which I mean twenty, twenty-five, thirty people arrived.…" (Franckovich, Op Cit.)
13. As investigator and former law-enforcement officer Craig Roberts points out in The Medussa File: "The unusual activity of this alleged "FBI" agent is striking, but not quite as odd as the fact that Lockerbie is over 350 miles from London, which is the nearest point an American FBI agent might be. To reach Lockerbie that night from London, even if traveling by air, would have taken far more than one hour considering the sequence of events that would have had to occur. Assuming a timely notification, an American agent in London would have had to have been tracked down considering the late hour, notified to pack up for an investigation, rush to Heathrow, board a waiting airplane, fly immediately to the nearest airport that could land a jet transport, obtain ground transportation from there to Lockerbie, then locate the command center. An effort that would require four to six hours at the minimum."
14. J.D. Reed, "Wednesday, April 19, 1995: A Black Day for All of Us," Workin' Interest, Vol. 96, Issue No. 3.
15. The Jaffar clan had been at the center of the opium production in the Bekka Valley for years.

http://aangirfan.blogspot.com/2007/06/lockerbie-drugs-and-cia.html
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-07-07 07:06 PM
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14. *snicker!* n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 12:43 AM
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19. This thing help bring down Pan American Airways for good.
Good gravy.
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Andre II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 02:53 AM
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26. Hello everybody!
Wow, there are some great analysis in this thread!
Many thanks. I'll do my reading now.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:38 AM
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:57 AM
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30. Scotsman has been reporting a lot, also a book and movie
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 07:01 AM by OzarkDem
Lockerbie evidence withheld from defense

http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1571662007


A book was written, Trail of the Octopus, that was quashed

http://www.amazon.com/Trail-Octopus-Donald-Goddard/dp/074751562X

A movie was made not long after questioning the evidence, Maltese Double Cross, but was also quashed with legal maneuvering..."The Maltese Double Cross – Lockerbie was to have been shown at the London Film Festival in November of 1994 but was withdrawn at the last minute under threat of a libel action by Michael Hurley, a retired U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency operative. " at link..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maltese_Double_Cross_%E2%80%93_Lockerbie

It looks as though some of the people who have proposed these theories weren't believed because of their shady, underworld connections, but quite honestly, who else would know about it?

There's a lot of information on the internet and it appears Scotland has been suspicious of the US government for quite some time.
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