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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 10:59 AM
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Wapo Editor Says BUSH, GONZALES & OTHERS IN ADMIN SHOULD BE TORTURED
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 11:02 AM by kpete
Post editor says Bush, Gonzales should be tortured Nick Juliano
Published: Monday October 8, 2007

An associate editor and columnist for the Washington Post says that until George W. Bush and others in his administration endure the "harsh" treatment to which terrorism suspects are subjected, then Bush "will be remembered as the president who tried to justify torture."

Saying his proposal is a "serious" alternative to Jonathan Swift's "modest proposal," the Post's Eugene Robinson says Bush should endure the same detainee treatment he authorized, which "international conventions deem torture."

"My proposal on torture is serious," Robinson wrote on a washingtonpost.com discussion board Sunday. "Let me know if you agree: Bush administration officials who claim the "harsh" interrogation techniques being used on terrorism suspects are not torture should have to undergo those same techniques. Personally. Repeatedly."

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"Clearly, he is using a narrow definition of torture: If we haven't actually put anybody on the rack or pulled out his fingernails, we haven't committed torture," Robinson writes. "Until George W. Bush can say, 'Hey, I've been waterboarded, and it wasn't so bad,' or Alberto Gonzales can say, 'To tell the truth, spending those three days naked in a freezing-cold cell wasn't painful or anything,' then I'll continue to believe that history will condemn this administration for a shocking lapse of moral judgment. Bush will be remembered as the president who tried to justify torture."

more at:
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Post_editor_says_Bush_Gonzales_should_1008.html
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:04 AM
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1. the fact that we're even discussing the "ethics" of torture makes me sad
and I don't so much believe that BushCo should be tortured, as much as I do that they ought to be tried, sentenced and spend their years rotting in the Hague.
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:04 AM
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2. Sounds reasonable to me. n.t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:04 AM
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3. ...
America will be known as the country that allows their war criminals to go free until Bush Inc is held accountable for their crimes

and each spring when the US government releases its report on human rights, people around the world will either scoff or snicker... snicker because its really nothing more than a wink wink nod nod...and scoff because who cares what the hypocrites in America think?





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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:08 AM
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4. i couldn't agree more!! k&r..eom
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:12 AM
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5. I am a proponent of
Arresting cheney and bush on the Ignargural podium. Giving them the label of "traitor" and holding them indeffinately without trial.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:13 AM
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6. Remember what pig boy said?
Rush Limbaugh claimed that said torture was more akin to frat pranks than real torture. I guess it was "phony torture". I'd like to see pig boy water boarded.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:15 AM
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7. I am seriously wondering if congress will even bother to fix this!
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:17 AM
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8. How long before he's fired?
After manufactures shrieks of outrage.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:21 AM
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9. OPTION: Undergo harsh techniques actually used or face WAR CRIMES
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:21 AM
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10. Bush and Cheney would have aides do it and then force them to lie about it.
Of course, waterboarding, temperature extremes and other "milder" forms of torture must be torture or terrorism. To be effective in receiving the desired response they must instill sufficient pain or fear in the recipient. If that's not torture (not enough pain) then it's terrorism and that's certainly no better.
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Jade Fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:27 AM
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11. They should be impeached!
The fact that they LIED should be enough, right? PLease!!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:33 AM
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12. Bless Eugene Robinson. I cherish his courage.
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 11:34 AM by Judi Lynn
Have seen him used as a pundit fairly regularly on cable tv news, will be looking forward to hearing his comments from now on.

Thanks.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 11:58 AM
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13. The Geneva Conventions says that if the
offending government (that's ours) does not do anything about the torture and mis-treatment of prisoners, then the International Court will take over and bring the perps to justice. The offending government is given a fair chance to do what's right. It looks like we are failing in our obligation. Congress is absolutely corrupt from the bottom to the top save a very few members, as well as the Executive branch. The vast majority need to be replaced and then our Constitution can be the supreme document of the United States again. We don't need more laws to make legal that which is illegal under the Constitution. The congresscritters are trying to do just that and it can't be done. Those laws won't hold up in a court of law and would be struck down in a heartbeat.
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