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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:19 PM
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Now Without Enough Immigrant Workers, Farmers Fear Crops Will Rot In Fields
U.S. lets in more immigrants for farms

By Nicole Gaouette, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 7, 2007

WASHINGTON -- With a nationwide farmworker shortage threatening to leave unharvested fruits and vegetables rotting in fields, the Bush administration has begun quietly rewriting federal regulations to eliminate barriers that restrict how foreign laborers can legally be brought into the country. The effort, urgently underway at the departments of Homeland Security, State and Labor, is meant to rescue farm owners caught in a vise between a complex process to hire legal guest workers and stepped-up enforcement that has reduced the number of illegal planters, pickers and middle managers crossing the border.

"It is important for the farm sector to have access to labor to stay competitive," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel. "As the southern border has tightened, some producers have a more difficult time finding a workforce, and that is a factor of what is going on today." The push to speedily rewrite the regulations is also the Bush administration's attempt to step into a breach left when Congress did not pass an immigration overhaul in June that might have helped American farms. Almost three-quarters of farmworkers are thought to be illegal immigrants.

On all sides of the farm industry, the administration's behind-the-scenes initiative to revamp H-2A farmworker visas is fraught with anxiety. Advocates for immigrants fear the changes will come at the expense of worker protections because the administration has received and is reportedly acting on extensive input from farm lobbyists. And farmers in areas such as the San Joaquin Valley, which is experiencing a 20% labor shortfall, worry the administration's changes will not happen soon enough for the 2008 growing season.

"It's like a ticking time bomb that's going to go off," said Luawanna Hallstrom, chief operating officer of Harry Singh & Sons, a third-generation family farm in Oceanside that grows tomatoes. "I'm looking at my fellow farmers and saying, 'Oh my God, what's going on?' "

More: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-farmworkers7oct07,0,7492249.story?coll=la-home-center


- One more nail in the GOP coffin.....
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yella_dawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:29 PM
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1. Freaky idea...
How about a wage, temporary housing and transportation program that will allow inner city jobless people to work these critical jobs?

Silly, I know, but it's an idea.


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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:49 PM
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3. I prefer coddled College Republicans who need a major reality check.
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 03:51 PM by TWriterD
They can't handle war, perhaps they can handle ... lettuce.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:08 PM
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5. That's not a bad idea!
Oh, wait - temporary housing and transportation. That sounds too much like "entitlements". The RW'ers won't go for it.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:37 PM
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8. Sure enough ...
Growers also complain about paying for workers' housing, transportation, visas and other fees. Harry Yates, a North Carolina Christmas-tree grower, estimates that his labor costs for H-2A workers are $14 an hour, compared with a competitor whose illegal laborers cost about $7.50 an hour.

:kick: & recommend
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:38 PM
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9. See? All those are great ideas....
...sound, logical and decent.

Repukes can't think that way. It hurts.....
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otherlander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 05:02 PM
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11. I like your idea better.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 05:05 PM
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12. I support your idea. It sounds like something FDR-era Democrats would have done.
An unemployment city-to-farm work program with provided housing and transportation. Not only does it help alleviate poverty in inner-city areas, but it also helps farmers grow crops, and these new employees could help boost the local economy when they spend their money on local goods and services. Everybody wins.
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Robson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 03:34 PM
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2. They've been too busy picking their nose instead of developing mechanical pickers
It's like a ticking time bomb that's going to go off," said Luawanna Hallstrom, chief operating officer of Harry Singh & Sons, a third-generation family farm in Oceanside that grows tomatoes. "I'm looking at my fellow farmers and saying, 'Oh my God, what's going on?' "

If it's a ticking time bomb then why hasn't the agricultural industry developed a mechanized tomato picker? Why don't they hire high school kids as they used to do. Could it be because they don't want to pay even high school kids enough? They've spent three generations picking their nose instead of working to solve a problem, because depending on cheap non-unionized migrant workers was a better deal for them.

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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:03 PM
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4. That's what happens when you play politics

instead of practice policy.

They make decisions - and inactions - based upon what special interest group they want to placate or cater to instead of what's good for the country.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:14 PM
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6. I live in an agricultural community,
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 04:20 PM by SimpleTrend
(close to Oceanside, actually) and I've never once seen a picking job advertised. I wonder if picking must be a closed guild not open to the general public.

Have these farmers and farm lobbyists ever considered running perpetual newspaper advertisements instead of petitioning government for more non-citizen workers?

Hmm, maybe they haven't. Maybe they simply want an endless supply of workers that are used to sub-legal wages, 'cause that's coincidentally good for lowering wages in other non-farm industries.

Ah, here it is, from the OP's article:
Farmers have to apply for workers about a month in advance, but the agencies often fail to coordinate their response in time for the harvest, which farmers can't always predict. At Hallstrom's farm, where tidy rows of tomato plants run almost to the ocean's edge, half of the 1,000 workers are in the H-2A program. (Nationally, about 60,000 H-2A applications a year are usually filed, compared with more than 3 million farm jobs to be filled. There is no cap on the number of H-2A workers allowed into the U.S.)


So it's not about finding citizen workers.
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:16 PM
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7. Wait, there's something wrong here with the quote:
"It is important for the farm sector to have access to cheap, one might say underpaid labor to stay competitive," said White House spokesman Scott Stanzel. "As the southern border has tightened, some producers have a more difficult time finding a workforce willing to work for substandard wages, and that is a factor of what is going on today."


Bolds mine. Ahhhh. That's better.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 04:40 PM
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10. thanks, fierce
with what they charge for produce today, king george himself should be picking it personally with his own two lily white hands

where are all these profits going?
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Fierce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 05:43 PM
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13. You answered your own question.
It's profit. And profit goes to the corporations.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:12 PM
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14. HUH? Walnuts McCain said they pay 50 bucks an hour!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:15 PM
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15. Get those Freepers out of their moms'
basements. There's work in the fields.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:17 PM
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16. no matter what -- the price of food is going to go up dramatically because of this.
we'll see how long the issues get sidestepped when this happens.

it's on the local news here in cali -- and has been.

so mom and pop are getting the info with their salisbury steak.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 07:01 PM
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17. I agree. n/t
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eric1 Donating Member (9 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 07:47 PM
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18. Not enough immigrants?
We've got at least 10 million illegals here. Aren't they supposed to be doing the jobs that Americans won't do? Where are they? Or perhaps we've just been fed another line by the "elites"?
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Kansas Wyatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 08:00 PM
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19. "farm lobbyists"...... Corporate America wanting cheaper labor.
After all, there is just too much produce growing on all of those construction sites, growing in all the big cities, and let's not forget the jungle of produce over-flowing the yards of homes across the United States.

The United States Citizen has become a subject to their Corporate Government, and has been sold out. Bottom line.
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