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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:29 PM
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Interesting info about "Patriot Bible College" (related to Vitter thread posted earlier today)
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 06:48 PM by EOO
This thread here prompted me to look into this more carefully:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1995622

Senator David Vitter to earmark $100,000 for creationist group

United States Senator, a Republican from Louisiana, David Vitter has earmarked $100,000 for Louisiana Family Forum (LFF), a conservative creationist organization. Vitter put the earmark into the labor, health and education financing bill for fiscal year 2008. The bill specifies the Louisiana Family Forum received the money "to develop a plan to promote better science education."

Vitter has close ties to the LFF through Dan Richey, the group's grass-roots coordinator, who received $17,250 as a consultant in Vitter's 2004 Senate race. Also Vitter's campaign paid Beryl Amedee who is the education resource council chairwoman for the Louisiana Family Forum.

As part of the Louisiana Family Forum efforts to "combat" the teaching of evolution, the group included Kent Hovind's "Battle Plan" on its website. Hovind, whose education from Patriot Bible University is widely considered to be a diploma mill, is currently serving a ten year prison sentence for tax evasion and obstructing federal agents.

Reporter James Gill poked fun at Vitter's admission of using the services of Pamela Martin and Associates, a prostitution service ran by Deborah Jeane Palfrey, and his recent creationist earmark. "We were better off when Vitter, in between homilies on the sanctity of marriage, was blowing his own money on prostitutes. At least the kids were safe," Gill wrote. He continued, "They will not be if the Louisiana Family Forum gets its way."

http://www.afriquenligne.fr/news/daily-news/senator-david-vitter-to-earmark-$100,000-for-creationist-group-200710039858/


Now a quick look at the Wikipedia entry for "Patriot Bible College" yielded this interesting info:

The university is not accredited by any recognized accreditation associations of higher learning. It is recognized by the American Accrediting Association of Theological Institutions, which has no recognition from the United States Department of Education or any other government educational organization.<9> The AAATI is itself considered an accreditation mill.<1> The group provides approval to schools for a $100 charge.<1>

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Bible_University


So basically, it has a total of 4 employees, is not recognized by any academic society, and its degrees are useless. And Kent Hovind, a graduate, and individual who has been doing time in a federal prison for tax evasion (claims his posessions are God's property :eyes: ), is a part of this group that Vitter is giving this $100K to.

Now what's even more interesting is that Mr. Hovind is the guy who claims that he'll give $250K to anyone who provides credible evidence of evolution:

Mr. Hovind's biggest claim to fame is his $250,000 offer to anyone who ostensibly offers convincing evidence for evolution. Even a casual reading of the fine print however reveals a protocol so bizarre, that my old friend Ed Brayton once summed it up with, "Using the same criteria Hovind uses, I'll wager my entire networth that no one can provide convincing evidence that decapitation is usually fatal". Ed BTW has a standing offer of one-million clams if Hovind can prove any empirical statement using the same standards he used for his $250,000 "challenge", and has further offered Hovind a written debate at any time. To my knowledge Hovind has never responded to either invitation.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/12/31/8219/5938


Turns out that Patriot Bible College is actually someone's house located in a Denver suburb:



So the question remains this - what kind of fraudulent group is diaper boy giving this money to? And who else may be involved?
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:33 PM
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1. Kent Hovind thinks that Dinosaurs are still living.
Edited on Mon Oct-08-07 06:37 PM by TheUniverse
The guy is loony, so of course he got his education from a degree mill.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:35 PM
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2. Ah, he's one of THOSE creationists.
That explains a lot! :rofl:
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TheUniverse Donating Member (954 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:38 PM
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3. He even has a 3 hour video to prove dinosaurs are still living.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2528412371399195162

And his whole argument seems to be some tribes in Africa spotting dinosaurs and noah used baby dinosaurs on the boat instead of big ones...
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:42 PM
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5. Oh, here's the best part:
Hovind claims that he "lost his dissertation" when moving his house. What dumbass "doctor" would misplace his dissertation?
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:40 PM
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4. Dinosaurs are still living! Here's proof...
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zabet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:54 PM
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6. Bwahahaha!
A bunch of relics of the past!! :rofl:
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-08-07 06:59 PM
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7. GOP should really be called GOWP
GOWP = Greedy Old White People
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