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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:40 PM
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Military gear bound for Iran, China traced to Pentagon surplus sales
i do not know if this was posted before but i believe this is important at this time of the b.s. about Iran's arms in iraq !

sorry is this is a re-run..i just think it is important!!

please do read it all!!

fly

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"Right Item, Right Time, Right Place, Right Price, Every Time. Best Value Solutions for America's Warfighters," the Defense Reutilization and Marketing Service says on its Web site, calling itself "the place to obtain original U.S. Government surplus property."


Military gear bound for Iran, China traced to Pentagon surplus sales

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/16/america/NA-GEN-US-Military-Surplus-Stings.php

AP Exclusive: Military gear bound for Iran, China traced to Pentagon surplus sales


Published: January 16, 2007

WASHINGTON: Fighter jet parts and other sensitive U.S. military gear seized from front companies for Iran and brokers for China have been traced in criminal cases to a surprising source: the U.S. Defense Department.

In one case, federal investigators said, contraband bought at auction from Defense surplus stocks was delivered to Iran, which President George W. Bush had in his "axis of evil" grouping. Just Tuesday, the State Department branded Iran as the world's worst exporter of terror

In the Iran case, a Pakistani arms broker convicted of exporting U.S. missile parts to Iran resumed business after his release from prison. He purchased Chinook helicopter engine parts for Iran from a U.S. company that had bought them in a Pentagon surplus sale. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents say those parts made it to Iran.

Sensitive military surplus items are supposed to be demilitarized, rendered useless for military purposes, or if auctioned, sold only to buyers who promise to obey U.S. arms embargoes, export controls and other laws.

Yet the surplus sales can operate like a supermarket for arms dealers.


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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:42 PM
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1. Well Rummy's still got a desk there
he's probably running a little extra business out the back door
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:44 PM
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2. Iran has F-14 jets & was looking to find spare parts for the F-14
You really need a pastic cover for your keyboard. OR give up on the coffee.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:52 PM
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3. You really need a pastic cover for your keyboard. OR give up on the coffee.
don't i know!!! lol........hahahahahaha..
;-) :spray: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :hi: :hi: :hi:


fly
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:03 PM
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8. Well
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:10 PM
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10. giggling here......n/t
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Jeanette in FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:54 PM
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4. Another reason to get rid of "Brewster Jennings" front company
We surely don't need no pesky nosey blond spies on the case . :sarcasm:
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:18 PM
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12. Bingo, we have a winner.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:20 PM
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13. yeah someone got it!! woo hoo!!
nothing to see here..

no proof..

dickey can do as he pleases can't he??

and now there is no one to expose him..

no pesky cia blowing the whistle on the neo con killers!!

fly
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 05:59 PM
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5. This isn't news - Halliburton have been doing business in Iran for years
Yes, that's right - in spite of an arms embargo and trade sanctions on Iran - Halliburton, with the aid of a little creative offshoring, has been selling stuff to the Iranians since the nineties.

Just like they were doing business with Saddam Hussein's regime before and after the Kuwait invasion.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:17 PM
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11. correct..Haliburton has done business with Iran..here is an article
but the main article here is the Penetagon selling US supplies...and since Sunday when the secret person ( ha!) said Iran the ( government ) is arming iraqi's..i thought it nessesary to show how ..we have armed our so called enemys!!

so should someone nuke us because we sold arms to our enemy's?????
General Pace said it best ..he has no proof the government of Iran is arming the insurgents..

but here is proof that our corporstions and our penetagon are arming rogue (?) states..

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here is an article ........
snip article..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4217703.stm
Sunday, 30 January, 2005,

Halliburton to pull out of Iran

The Iranian economy relies heavily on oil exports
US energy services company Halliburton is to end its operations in Iran after existing contracts come to an end.
Several American firms have been able to legally work in the country in the face of a US trade embargo, through foreign subsidiaries.

Halliburton, once run by US vice president Dick Cheney, said its Cayman Island unit secured revenues of $30m-$40m (£16-£21m) from Iran in 2003.

It said it was winding down its work due to a poor business environment.

Losses cut

Tension has been mounting between the two nations as the US suspects Iran of developing a nuclear weapons programme.




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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 07:15 PM
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17. IMHO 'fucked up' does not begin to describe the unfolding fiasco
M.E.K.(US is supporting the most unpopular terrorist group in Iran, a UK equivalent of the US openly supplying, training and giving safe haven to the IRA)

Turkish gas imports from Iran (Iran is Turkey's main supplier of natural gas)

Russian oil deals with Iran (Russian oil products are delivered to northern Iran, Iranian crude is sold on from the Persian Gulf in exchange)

LPG supplies to India from Iran (India would flip if their gas supplies suffer in any war)

Oil supplies to China (never mind congress, what's Bush going to do if the Chinese pull the funding plug on him?)

These facts are typical of the idiotic clowning that passes for US policy in the Near and Middle East.

Bush is going to stir up an unholy shit-storm if he attacks Iran. He would simultaneously piss off everybody, allies and enemies. The already weakened position of the US around the Persian Gulf would suffer a catastrophic blow, it would take decades to recover lost ground - military, diplomatic or commercial.
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 09:27 AM
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26. Big Business - which we hardly hear anything about
But we do hear about the relatively small business of helicopter parts making it to Iran...
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:00 PM
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6. Only TWO recommendations?!?! (now three, I just voted)
It's really time United Statesians woke up to the facts of the global arms trade, which has been an EXTREMELY lucrative enterprise for governments all over the planet -- not to mention all sorts of particularily canny and well-connected individuals who have thrived for decades in the shadows.

The planet is in the state that it is because the manufacture and trade of the instruments of death and destruction is so obscenely profitable for those who engage in it.

sw

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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:57 PM
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16. Let us not forget the Prince of Darkness Perle's (Mr. Iran-Contra himself) meeting with Khashoggi
http://www.globalpolicy.org/security/issues/iraq/attack/2003/0328perleresigns.htm

Snippet- About Perle

"But his recent troubles emerged from disclosures this month about his business dealings.
They began with an article in The New Yorker by Seymour M. Hersh that disclosed
that Mr. Perle had lunch earlier this year with the arms dealer Adnan Khashoggi.
Mr. Perle responded to the article by calling Mr. Hersh a terrorist and threatening
to sue him in a British court for libel."

BHN
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:02 PM
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7. Does that mean we should bomb ourselves?
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:03 PM
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9. yup.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:26 PM
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14. k&r
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 06:43 PM
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15. gotta wonder how much of our giant war budget goes out the
back door. what other explanation is there for trillions for an army that can't defeat a virtually unarmed country?
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:10 PM
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18. Pentagon Caught Red Handed in an attempt to Frame Iran: Iran Does Not Manufacture 81MM Mortar Shells
The url address of this article is: www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=NIM20070213&articleId=4772

Pentagon Caught Red Handed in an attempt to Frame Iran: Iran Does Not Manufacture 81MM Mortar Shells

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by Kurt Nimmo

Global Research, February 13, 2007
Another Day in the Empire - 2007-02-12


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Pentagon carelessness fabricating bogus “evidence” against Iran is really quite stupendous. As I wrote here yesterday, the 81mm mortar shell offered up to the complaisant corporate media as “evidence” Iran is supplying weaponry to the Shi’a of Iraq is an obvious ruse, as the date on the proffered shell does not follow the Muslim calendar and other markings are in English when it only makes sense they would appear in Persian script.

But it gets worse.

As a recent email points out, Iran does not manufacture 81mm mortar shells. According to a report offered by the Jaffee Center for Strategic Studies at Tel Aviv University, connected to the Saban Center for Middle East Policy at the neocon Brookings Institute, the smallest mortar produced by Iran is the 107mm M-30. This information is included in the JCSS’s “Middle East Military Balance,” updated last February. It can be read in this PDF file on page 15. According to JCSS, “The Middle East Military Balance has been the most authoritative source on Middle Eastern Armies since 1983.” It is quite fortunate for us the hubris-filled neocons care not to double check their engineered lies—erroneously described as a “machining process”—before unleashing them on an unwitting public.

As Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told the Associated Press, the “United States has a long history in fabricating evidence,” an undisputed fact more than underscored by the lead-up to the Iraq invasion when the neocons claimed Iraqi weather balloon trailers doubled as biological weapon labs and clumsily recycled a student’s homework as evidence Saddam was dabbling in weapons of mass destruction.


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Addendum

Iran does not manufacture 81mm mortars—but Pakistan does. Compare the photo on this death merchant catalog page with the one offered up as “evidence” against the Iranians. Minus the nosecone and fins at the bottom, it is almost a dead ringer, excuse the metaphor (see enlargement here).

Is it possible the Pentagon neocons, in their zeal to finger the Iranians and thus kick start World War Four, as they fondly call it, are using a Pakistani mortar and attributing it to Iran? Considering the long and sordid history of collaboration between the CIA, Pentagon, and Pakistan’s nefarious ISI, this is likely the case.



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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 08:57 AM
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25. Nimmo has printed a retraction about Iranian 81mm shells on his own site
Retraction: Iran Does Make 81mm Mortar Shells

I have received email indicating the Iranian Ammunition Industries Group manufactures and sells 81mm mortar shells, as indicated on this page. However, this does not diminish the argument that there is no definitive evidence Iran supplies weaponry to Iraq’s Shi’a militias, as originally stated.

http://kurtnimmo.com/?p=765


Unfortunately, the setup of globalresearch.ca is such that they don't show such retractions.
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Igel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-14-07 05:07 PM
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27. Thanks.
You saved me some trouble. I was going to point out that Nimmo's cited source shows *nobody* making light mortars ... including Israel, who we know makes one. They also show nobody making any sort of guns or ammo.

I don't think his source includes anything that's generally intended to be carried by people.
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nicknameless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:14 PM
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19. Thank you for this thread! (I posted a little about this topic a while back)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:29 PM
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21. :)...you are welcome..
i didn't remember seeing this..but i could have missed it..but with what the white house said sunday..and they way they did ..and all the bullshit from this white house and media working up a fever about Iran..i thought this was too important not to bring to people's attention...

i actually found it by mistake today while googling for something else..and i said..sheeeeeeeeeeet...how did i miss this before..

so i thought ..if i missed it maybe others did as well!!

anyway..here it is and i hope some of the media folks who lurk here see it as well...

:)..i know you lurk here media..now tell the truth and get this story in US media..now!!....:hide: :rofl: :rofl:


fly
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:15 PM
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20. yes, we sell military equipment to Iran, see this post
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:34 PM
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22. LSK..THANK YOU FOR THAT..PLEASE POST IT ALL HERE SO PPL CAN SEE IT!!
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 09:19 PM by flyarm
i can't believe only two people responded to your thread!!

maybe they were too busy with the smut of the day ...what ever it was that day..
you know the entertainmedia...

please do post your thread here!!

i welcome it and think we should all expose everything on these bastards!


:).........fly
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 08:56 PM
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23. ok, I posted it again
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 09:01 PM by LSK
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:22 PM
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24. I K&R'ED YOUR THREAD..PLEASE OTHERS DO SO AS WELL
this is an important article!!
thank you!!

fly
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