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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:47 PM Original message |
Now the question what can we do to stop this descent into hell? |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:53 PM Response to Original message |
1. I wish I were more optimistic |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 07:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. If there is a walk out |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. The Capacity of the Individual |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:04 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. You do it person to person |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. A lot of people are recommending this thread |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Preaching to the choir????? |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Hey, it takes a while to think and type LOL |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
7. K & R and some ideas from the "old days" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. The things we used to know |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Exactly. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Yes but I was using the "pompous" style of the 19th century |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:41 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Yeah, but just think, that "pompous" style harkens back to the language |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I'll look for those essays and work over them |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. :D |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. We could do "post it" note ratings on books at bookstores. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. What people have done |
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rustydad (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
8. Hell? |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
9. Simple, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. :-) |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
13. "Sense of isolation" |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:27 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So do I |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. I have to confess, the isolation thingy struck me, first. |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I'm glad people are sharing this |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. As you said this is done by design |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. You are right |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. I suppose one drastic change I could make is stop imagining being one of my critters. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
42. That's the way I see the parrots |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. uh |
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Mike03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. K & R by the way |
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many a good man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
19. Quietly wake everybody THE FUCK UP !!! |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Start wiht breaking the silence by simply saying hello to people |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. What can we learn from history - from those who have gone before us and |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
23. Reinstate habeas corpus & demand IMPEACHMENT |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. That is why I am harkeing back all the way to the founders |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:03 PM Response to Reply #27 |
69. I agree but we also need to know our history and its sources, which are amazing... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. and of course we need to add |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Agree totally. Broaden horizons, pick the best, create expanded rights, opporunities, |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Helping people |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
72. You prediction is probably right. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #72 |
83. Depends on WHO writes the history |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Why do I think impeachment is necessary? Because it's all about accountability. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. Well people are exasperated because what is going on |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Actually, I think most everyone grasps that,...they just try to figure,.... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Then it is time people act |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
29. Regarding your top points |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:56 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Agreed, but the idea itself |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. It is just clear to me that the statement is not applied in the U.S. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #38 |
52. We are free to try to make them releveant |
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DaveJ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
64. Speaking of voting |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Here are some of the changes I'd like to see sooner rather than later |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
77. It WAS pretty much a national holiday at one time; corporations didn't like it ---- |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
31. First we need to restore habeas corpus |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Yeah but we need to fight for it |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Yes and the stakes are high. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:51 PM Response to Reply #31 |
78. First we need to impeach . .. that's the first step which will force everything else back in line -- |
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Gregorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
35. Education. Communication. Skepticism. Resistance. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Since the 1980s there has been a concered effort to |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
36. To all of you demanding the restoration of Habeas, the way |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I've been encourage by the work of Leahy and Dodd |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. That too. |
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sicksicksick_N_tired (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. Wouldn't it be nice if we just offered encouragement more often? |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Three more Dems that will vote to restore it. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. It sure as hell does. |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
44. as you are knowledgeable in this area... I have a question. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. In US History actually twice |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:15 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. In US History actually twice |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
51. Presidential fund for the general election - $3 per ea, you and your spouse |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Yep, baby steps |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. For which, I'm sure, |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Exactly |
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The Inquisitive (480 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
57. boyle's law |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
58. I like what you've been posting. You get it. Thank you. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:34 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No thank you |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
62. "anomie is killing you and me, this sense of isolation." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Well hello there |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. The painting... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yep, |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. Outstanding thrat btw, meant to say that earlier. n/t |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
74. I'm not sure English is your first language or if you reside in the USA, |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
75. easy: socialize. fraternize. organize. cooperate. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-14-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yep that is the first step to get rid of anomie |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:05 AM Response to Original message |
80. Only non-violence . . .. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Oh trust me, these systems are best brought down |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
84. Nothing can stop it. The only option left is to jump out of the car. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. There are days I am tempted to do just that |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
86. kick for the monday crowd |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-15-07 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
87. What Kucinich said: "arrest them". nt |
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