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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:24 PM
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Any marine biologists out there? What kind of animal is THIS:
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:11 PM by Poll_Blind


VIDEO:Strange walking sea creature



  A picture doesn't do it justice by any means. You have to see this thing in action. It appears to be pretty small, maybe a foot long at the very biggest (assuming it's a big tuna that swims by) and more likely to be much smaller.

  Still it basically resembles a walking fishhead with a backend which...which...is hard to describe.

  I have no idea where the footage comes from or how to read the codes on the footage outside of depth and other clearly-labeled readouts. Anyone seen this before?

Thanks!

PB



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poiuytsister Donating Member (591 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:27 PM
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1. It looks like the trible from Star Trek
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:29 PM
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2. Ocean Sunfish. A tiny one, if it's only a foot long:
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 09:30 PM by dicksteele


I'm not a marine biologist, so that's just a guess.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:30 PM
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5. I dont buy it
the one in the video is walking on the bottom
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:38 PM
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42. Good, because I was WRONG. See below. nm
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:30 PM
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7. You Didn't Watch The Video, Did Ya LOL
Doesn't look a think like a sunfish.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:54 PM
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22. Lol, didn't even notice there WAS a video!
That's what I get for trying to multitask!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:00 PM
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27. Hey, Don't Sweat It. I Came Thisssss Close To Being Guilty Of The Same.
At first, I almost thought maybe a Nurse Shark. Then I watched the video and laughed my ass off at myself LOL
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:33 PM
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9. No, I'm pretty sure it's not that. This thing is locomotive on the...
...ocean floor. I just checked and could only find this as a picture of a baby ocean sunfish.



By the way, ocean sunfish are some of the strangest, coolest looking creatures in the sea. Especially when fully grown.

PB
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:39 PM
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43. Yeah, see my post #22 above. nm
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:04 PM
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28. Oh, these are so cool!
I saw one at the Monterey Bay Aquarium. Absolutely fascinating. I couldn't stop looking at it.
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:40 PM
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45. Cool, definitely. Starring in that video, not a chance. See #22 above! nm
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:29 PM
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3. Who knows what lives down there?
And just think with all the DNA and waste modern civilization pumps into our waterways each day. Is it any wonder?

Mutant fish!!!! Ruuuuunnn!
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:30 PM
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4. Absolutely Fascinating. No Idea What It Was But It Sure Is A Silly Little Thing Ain't It?
I'm curious to know as well.
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HappyWeasel Donating Member (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:30 PM
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6. oh.
I have seen them before. Both in salt water and fresh water. In fresh water, it looks lie a walking cat fish. In salt, they are a strange species that I used to catch in crab traps in the canal to be put into the family pet project aquarium when I lived in Florida. They are hiders in rocks and are generally foul tempered. They weigh about half a pound to about a pound and are about 10 to 12 inches long.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:35 PM
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11. Are they fish or crustaceons? This thing looks like a fish using...
...modified (or not-so-modified) fins to walk. However, the placement of the fins is really strange. Ever call them by anything that you remember? And generally where did you live? I could search on stuff like that.

PB
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:32 PM
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8. Wow, that's just weird weird weird
and cute.

Thanks for sharing!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:35 PM
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10. Geez, that thing is weird--and it ain't no sunfish. (nt)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:36 PM
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12. oh
that's just an ocean hedgehog.
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Saphire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:37 PM
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13. walking catfish??????
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:41 PM
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16. looks like a catfish to me too
an albino catfish

not rare in our region, probably not rare in texas either
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:51 PM
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20. Did you watch the video? I can't ever recall seeing catfish fry but...
...the fin placement makes the thing look more froggish than fish...er....fishish. ;-)

  I tried to grab a shot where you could see the whiskers, because it definitely has some kind of whiskers for sensing food or for straking the sea bed to flush things out. But the placement and proportions seem wildly wrong for any kind of catfish I've seen. At least any in North America.

  I know flounders undergo a really strong metamorphosis as they grow, with their fry looking more or less like a regular fish but as they get older (if I recall correctly) one of their eyes migrates over to the same side of their head as the other and their body takes on a more flounder-like appearance.

  With the fins so close together in front and the fins in back looking so little like fins used for swimming, this animal would have to undergo (it would seem) an equally amazing metamorphosis. When you came across fish like these, was there a name you called them by, even some local nickname?

Thanks!

PB
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:06 PM
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29. The top picture looks like one of the walking catfish
from S. East Asia.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:38 PM
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14. Fin placement and locomotion seem all screwey. The two fins...
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 09:40 PM by Poll_Blind
...in front are basically underneath it and the two in back are well on the sides.

  But the locomotion trips me out: First the left front fin, then the right front fin then both back fins at the same time.

  And the back fins remind me of frog legs for some reason!

ONEDIT: Could it be some kind of amphibian in their water-breathing stage?

PB
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:40 PM
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15. The Moment I Read This Post... I WAS a marine biologist.
The sea was angry that day, my friends... like an old man calling for his supper.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:42 PM
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17. LOL
:thumbsup:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:48 PM
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19. It is my considered opinion that it is
one of the small dinosaurs Noah was supposed to put on the ark in its lizard stage, and overlooked.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:57 PM
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25. Love it! n/t
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:48 PM
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18. SEA BUNNY! SEA BUNNY!
:woohoo:

I just made that name up, because it kind of walks like a bunny and it is big a round like a bunny.
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elana i am Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:53 PM
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21. frogfish
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:11 PM by elana i am
maybe?

">photo here


the photo is too huge to post, but i can't get the link to work. i give up.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:55 PM
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24. Yep, that's what it looks like:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:15 PM
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32. Nice! I think that's it! Thank you! n/t
PB
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:14 PM
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31. Nice! I think that's what it might be! Alot of the same things, especially...
...the back leg-fins, have the same shape!

Here's one from behind:



PB
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spacelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:54 PM
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23. Is it Muddy The Mudflipper? n/t
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Island Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 09:58 PM
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26. Is it a Mudpuppy?
Edited on Tue Feb-13-07 10:08 PM by Island Blue
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:07 PM
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30. No, but excellent guess. The still photo is really misleading.
  I answer pretty certainly on that one because mudpuppies all have elongated vermiform bodies, gill "tufts" (when aquatic, anyway) and their legs are on the sides like a crocodile, for instance. I almost don't wonder if this thing (and you really have to see it moving, and especially from the different angles) is deformed in some way.

  Totally didn't think of mudpuppies, but it's a good guess at least based on the still image.

PB
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:04 PM
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46. Mudpuppies are amphibians, not fish
Like newts or salamanders.
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freethought Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:17 PM
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33. I'm going to go with a species of frogfish
It seems to fit the general description. The image isn't to great but you could see some features,
fins that resemble webbed feet and upward looking eyes and mouth. Clearly not much of a swimmer, rather it waddles about on the bottom.
Most frogfish have the fishing appendage on the head to lure prey. Hard to see anything in the video.
If I had to put money down, I would go with a frogfish of some sort. Check for yourself, just go on Google-Images and type in "frogfish".
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:18 PM
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34. That is an incredibly cool video!
I'm thinking that it's some sort of frogfish. They apparently have evolved tetrapod like adaptations to their fins to enable them to walk on the ocean floor.

There's some interesting discussion of them in Jenny Clack's book Gaining Ground, which I thought of immediately when I saw this.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:26 PM
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39. Wow, cool book! I'm going to see about picking that up. Evolution...
...is extremely interesting stuff.

PB
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:33 PM
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41. A wonderful book, though outdated since the discovery of Tiktaalik.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:39 PM
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44. Interesting critter, thanks! n/t
PB
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:19 PM
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35. Dunno, but it was smart enough to duck when that big fish went by
Can't wait to find out what this is.

A transition species perhaps? Oh wait, there's no evolution, never mind.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:19 PM
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36. Arr, Jim, that be the rare Marine Hedgehog - good eatin', them....
If ye can catch one - slipperier than a neocon on a Congressional Hearing day....so me pappy used to say....
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:24 PM
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38. Get this tag classification on LiveLeak..
"sea" "ocean" "fish" "wtf" "bizarre"

:rofl:
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:26 PM
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40. Ya gotta admit though, it is pretty accurate! LOL! n/t
PB
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 10:22 PM
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37. I think Elana I Am and Freethought nailed it: Some species of FROGFISH!
"Confirmed" it over at Zubi's Frogfish Page which Google helped me find. In the videos section there's a video of a frogfish "running" which uses the exact movement and has the same fin placement, etc.

  Thanks to everyone who hazarded a guess or just took a moment to enjoy another strange and beautiful creature on our planet!

PB
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:10 PM
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47. I agree it is a species of frogfish
This might be it:

http://www.starfish.ch/fishes-Fische/frogfishes-Anglerfische/Antennarius-pictus29.html



I actually am a marine biologist but I deal mainly with coastal species. Many frogfish species live on the ocean floor, sometimes at great depths.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-13-07 11:16 PM
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48. That's Why I LOVE DU!!! Learn Somethin New Every Goddamn Day! Awesome Work Guys!
I was fascinated by this. Never even heard of a frogfish before, but now I'm fascinated with them!
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