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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:40 PM Original message |
Obesity is 'deadlier than smoking' and can knock 13 years off your life |
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Ishoutandscream2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gosh, you're right! Better take up smoking so I can start losing weight |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. The only difference between obesity and smoking is |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:01 AM Response to Reply #2 |
18. Unless those "others" are obese. |
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Raejeanowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. I'm With You, Tahiti Nut |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. Fat is the new tobacco. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. ****snarf**** |
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Kutjara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Well, I've already read reports... |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #6 |
43. I think it's fat-CATs that are driving up the price of health care |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
53. There just was a recent article about how if your partner or friends are all fat, you |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Mmmmmmm. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Already scientifically proven in the New England Journal of Medicine |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
45. I really resent this study because I have a friend who's obese. |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
58. I plan to fat pinch all my friends from now on. You can't be too careful! |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. The difference between an aesthetic hazard and a health hazard |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Actually someone wrote a bunch of shit about second hand fat |
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MissB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #3 |
52. Second hand fat |
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Spinzonner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
5. But we obesiters have a better chance |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
7. Only if obesity is combined with either inactivity or diabetes |
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Mutley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Except maybe a bullet to the brain. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
39. Or leaping in front of a speeding beer truck |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #7 |
33. Agreed |
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MLFerrell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #7 |
38. "Nothing is deadlier than smoking." |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I did, and pointed out why the data were incomplete. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
49. If smoking is combined with with either 2 packs a day and starting when you're a teenager. |
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mark414 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
60. what about a game of russian roulette? |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
8. What? Fat is deadlier than cigarettes? |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. So if I took up smoking again to lose weight I might improve my odds? |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
13. One problem of this is the cost to our health care system |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:54 AM Response to Reply #13 |
23. AGE is the biggest cost on the healthcare system |
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cigsandcoffee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Unlike obesity and smoking, age isn't preventable. n/t |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
14. Doing 'stoppies' on the freeway may shorten your life by 70 years |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-16-07 11:39 PM Response to Original message |
15. 'I slept with my sperm donor' says mum longing for a baby |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
28. Yeah, I wish DUers wouldn't use the Daily Mail as a source; but the study is genuine, and elsewhere |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #15 |
42. *lol* |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
47. Classic fallacy. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
16. All those online health tests |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Even marriage has more of an impact than smoking. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. lol, maybe I should have kept the cigarettes |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:31 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Maybe you misunderstood. married people live LONGER. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Oooohhhh |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. Meh... |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. Bullshit |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:15 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. I think you'll find this report is actually saying the same thing as your links |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #21 |
55. In my cardiologists office is a BIG poster listing heights and weights and |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:03 AM Response to Original message |
27. What does this do for the risk pools in socialized health care? |
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B Calm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:18 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Oh my, there's that awful word socialism... The military |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:30 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. I doubt it would be more than you're paying now, in fact it would be less. |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Thanks for the welcome. :) |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 08:50 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. LOL. You're welcome! BTW, there may be a chance you could be one of the "pee-ers" down the road. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
46. Rule #1: The minority pays for the majority. (It's 'democratic.') |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
31. I always find stories about how much time you might live longer |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:21 AM Response to Original message |
32. ttt nt |
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RebelOne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
35. Smoking prevents me from becoming obese. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
36. shameful junk science -- and it could even promote smoking... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. Yeah, because 250 scientists don't know squat. And science is automatically a political statement. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. hon, I went there before writing my post... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. If you read the study then you wouldn't have asked the questions you did. |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. I advocate approaching all this sort of thing with caution... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
37. Classic apples to oranges comparison made with good intentions |
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Rhythm and Blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
48. Man, I absolutely hate breathing in people's secondhand fat. nt |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
59. My son is obese.I have been tryinf,with no luck,to find |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:21 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Obesity has been foisted upon the next generation. Hydrogenated corn syrup, big agra's influence. |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Have you tried the Y? |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #59 |
65. I get tired of people not understanding that sometimes for whatever reason |
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Perseid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
62. I spent a couple of years losing over 40 lbs |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
64. ok,i've had gastric bypass-and am trying to find a gym for my kid |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
66. my son is obese-fyi-no gyms will accept an 11 year old |
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NorthernSpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:15 AM Response to Original message |
68. "The Dangers... of Bingeing on Scare Stories" -- critique from Spiked Online |
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Generic Brad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-18-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
69. That sucks |
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