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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:23 PM
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"DRAFT GORE: It's Show Time"
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 10:26 PM by understandinglife
Tomorrow in Chicago, Al Gore will make his first public appearance since his press conference regarding the Nobel Peace Prize last Friday. Al will be speaking before the Economic Club of Chicago. I really don't know much about this organization but when he arrives at the hotel where it's being held, he will be met by a Draft Gore rally.

The has taken on a life of it's own in the last week. The truth is we are big enough to be talked about. And Al Gore has heard us.

We don't know what he's thinking. We don't know which way he's leaning. But we do know that he heard us. And, frankly, if someone was trying to draft ME, I'd keep up on what they're doing. Oh yes, Al Gore is aware that there is a Draft Gore movement afoot all across this nation and he knows what we are up to. Not only has he not told us to stop... he released three videos of himself speaking frankly about the issues on current.com.

It's time to take the Draft Gore movement to the next level. It's time to build the buzz. It's SHOWTIME!



H/T to


Mr Gore Please Note: The Campaign Is YOUR Presidential Bully-Pulpit for the next year

Mr Gore, I think it is highly probable that if you place your name on the ballot you will be President in Jan 2009.

Mr Gore, politics in America, as currently practiced, is symptomatic of an anti-humanity, avarice-driven, corporatist and immoral system. The trivial, the banal, the viciousness, the lies .... are all evidence of a system protecting itself, a system that has zero concern for the fate of humanity.

Mr Gore, during the next 12 months you can change politics-as-usual in the United States of America.

Mr Gore, I suggest that that is the most important step toward any reasonable mechanism for averting global catastrophic disruption of humanity's efforts to become stewards of our planet for the sake of those yet to be born.

Mr Gore, you have a unique Presidential platform awaiting. You will be recognized as a national and global leader as you campaign and everything you do and say will be heard around the world.

For those who attempt the trivial, mean, banal response ... well they will face us - a progressive, intelligent social network of progressives with the considerable tools of an online community. You did not have those resources in 2000. They are way more consequential than the blather that Fox and other corporatist propaganda outlets spew.

Mr Gore, Be Presidential from now until Nov 2009. Mr Gore, you will be President in Jan 2009.

And, humanity will have reasons for hope, starting the moment you place your name on the ballot - hope waiting to emerge and be a watershed for your endeavors to save our civilization.

Thank you,
Bob



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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:27 PM
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1. Wish I could be in Chicago with you tomorrow!
:yourock: :applause: :patriot:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:31 PM
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6. As do I ... Thank you!!
:thumbsup:


Everything Mr Gore does should be unconventional because anything remotely resembling past American Presidential campaigns is the last thing America and humanity need!!


Peace.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #1
85. wish i could make it as well
in the meantime here is my plea to al

http://youtube.com/watch?v=0Nnph3zkHNw
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:29 PM
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2. k&r
ty
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:29 PM
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3. I'm a little worried about the press...I mean look at how they
have been trashing him after he won a goddamned NOBEL PRIZE.

They'll crucify him if he runs.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:32 PM
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7. You needn't worry. No one is capable of crushing Mr Gore or any of us ..
... who intend to prevail and restore the rule of law to America and ignite hope throughout all of humanity.

Count on it.

Thanks for your concern.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:37 PM
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22. He doesn't need to run a conventional campaign.
Gore is a man of vision, he is using what we are sitting in front of... OH MY WORD!!! He is gonna run! :bounce: It's the 21st Century, conventional campaigns as we knew them, are about to be a thing of the past!:bounce::bounce:

I have a tingling everywhere! I just know it. Don't ask me how...HE IS IN! :bounce::bounce::bounce:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:48 PM
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25. Precisely!!!
:thumbsup:

He most definitely knows what he is doing ...
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 PM
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4. Bob's letter to Mr. Gore is spot on
When Al speaks, folks are gonna listen. The ball is in your court, Al.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:49 PM
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13. Thank you!
Mr Gore, be transformative for the next 12 months and then be President.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:31 PM
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5. Draft Gore! Draft Gore! Draft Gore!
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:38 PM
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8. he is watching, closely.
or so we were told by dylan malone, close friend and major actor in the draft movement. he says there are people on al's staff who are watching the draft movement. and if he wasn't thinking of running, i think he would have made an endorsement by now. till he does, i hold out hope.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:48 PM
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12. I agree. We all just need to keep informing him that the next 12 months can ...
... be the most constructive, hopeful, transformative campaign in US history. And, he will be President.

Thank you,
Bob
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:41 PM
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9. K&R. (nt)
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:44 PM
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10. dang i wish i was going to be in ORD!!..come to NY AL!! come to Philly AL!!
I am waiting for You Al!!..i will walk on fire for you !!

whatever it takes!!!

I am ready to be your foot soldier!!

I have my checkbook ready!!

I am yours!!

fly
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:46 PM
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11. K&R this ..DRAFT GORE..RUN AL RUN ..DRAFT GORE!! EOM
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:51 PM
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14. At least this topic is respectful.
So many of the "Run Al, Run!" topics are overly demanding and outright disrespectful.

It's no secret I don't think Mr. Gore's global warming fight is served by him running, but I'm happy to see people making their case in an intelligent and respectful manner.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:56 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. Thank you. And ...
... I think the most important pulpit for Mr Gore's efforts to preserve our planet earth are:

1. the campaign during the next 12 months;
2. the Presidency from Jan 2009 onward.

It is my opinion, nothing more, that by being transformative of the Presidential campaign process Mr Gore raises the bar to a level not experienced in American politics and to a level that all subsequent campaigns must meet or exceed.

The reason for that opinion, among many, is that no future American President will have any credibility or leverage if the nurturing of humanity's only home is not their number one priority.

Thank you for your thoughtful response,
Bob
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #16
44. the nurturing of humanity's only home...
"no future American President will have any credibility or leverage if the nurturing of humanity's only home is not their number one priority."

wow.


:yourock: :applause:
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:54 PM
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15. Even the doubters have to admit
it is interesting that Mr. Gore, seeing all the money and time and effort these people are expending, has not once told them to knock it off.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:00 PM
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17. Indeed! -eom
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:09 PM
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18. Ditto!
Everything about any campaign Mr Gore will lead will need to be unconventional if it is to have the comprehensive impact it has the potential of being.

I think we are witnessing phase 0 of that unconventional, and likely transformative campaign.

Thank you.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:46 PM
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23. We are witnessing history
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:47 PM by DearAbby
The way America held campaigns changed the moment Kennedy and Nixon began their debate in 1960...2007 the way America campaign is changing, to this medium the computer, internet...where candidate can get out their message without censors by the media...THE MAN IS A GENIUS!!! :bounce::bounce: sorry I am so excited, this is history people, Al Gore is a man of vision, he knows the potential of what is sitting right in front of most Americans. Their personal computer, with a click of a mouse you can hear the Candidate speak on issues, what their plans are, right in that monitor, you wont hear sound bites, no one will be censored. This is the way of the future...:bounce:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:36 PM
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21. That's what gives me hope more than anything.
It would be flat-out irresponsible to allow people to put forth that kind of time and effort if he absolutely isn't going to run. In fact, it would be downright cruel, and I just can't imagine Al Gore being either cruel or irresponsible.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:49 PM
Response to Reply #21
27. For my 12000th DU Post: "... I just can't imagine Al Gore being either cruel or irresponsible."
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:59 PM by understandinglife
I fully agree with you and Thank you for sharing those empathetic insights,
Bob
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:13 AM
Response to Reply #27
31. Thanks! It's an honor to be on the receiving end
of your 12,000th post. I hope that speech tomorrow is going to be televised...I'll be watching if it is!
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #31
46. Keep us posted if you find coverage today!!! woohoo!!!
:woohoo:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:51 AM
Response to Reply #46
75. FYI ... see #72.


Peace.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:18 PM
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19. K&R
and for all those who will be attending in the Chicago area a big "THANK YOU!" from those of us who cannot be there.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. Agree & Thank you!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:46 PM
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24. AL GORE: Highlights from 1/06 Speech Blasting Bush Admin
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:23 AM
Response to Reply #24
50. Here is the entire speech, one of the great speeches of all time:
http://www.acslaw.org/node/2096

"Restoring the Rule of Law" 1/16/2006

Al starts at ten minutes in.

The entire speech is an absolute MUST watch.

Thank you, Bob!
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lildreamer316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:23 AM
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65. Link to the vid posted in our video forum:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:50 AM
Response to Reply #50
73. Thank you!!
:hi:


Peace.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:49 PM
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26. NeoGore is "The One!"
:D



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:00 AM
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29. And, for my 12000th and One DU Post -- YOU ARE SOOOO COOL!!!
Thank you my friend!
Bob
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:08 AM
Response to Reply #29
30. YAAAY!
:applause:



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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:53 PM
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28. good luck to you!!!
I'm pulling for you! :applause:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:46 AM
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32. "New Poll: Gore More Electable Than Hillary" -- (no surprise)
hot off the heels of a poll showing that the , another poll is showing that Gore may very well be the most electable Democrat in a general election.

The only polls Clinton v. Giuliani and Gore v. Giuliani, but the result is clear: Gore is the far more electable candidate, something many supporters have been saying for a long time now. to go along with his movie star status, its no wonder that the former vice president polls four points higher than Hillary; Clinton winds up edging out Giuliani 49-47% while Gore handily defeats Rudy 52-46%. And remember, Giuliani is supposed to be their most electable guy - imagine what Gore would do to the likes of Romney, McCain or Thompson! America is ready to repent for 2000 and is ready for a Gore administration - Al running in the general election is our best bet to win back the White House.

<clip>

Link:


And, with what Mr Gore can do during the next 12 months, he will not only be President, he will have transformed what it means to campaign for President.

Raise the bar, Mr Gore. Be Presidential the next 12 months. Be President in 2009.

Thank you.

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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #32
116. UL - You didn't post a link - is this to a Daily Kos diary?
I am catching a lot of shit for my post about Gore being close to winning the Dem primaries with 48% of those polled wanting him to enter the race, so I am posting a new thread in GD that expands a bit on what you have in the text box above...

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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:37 PM
Response to Reply #116
119. OMG, I LOVE your sig line and pic!
I'm truly disgusted with her and sickened at the thought of her being the nominee. I would LOVE for Gore to run, he'd be sooooooooo much a better candidate. Unfortunately, it just doesn't appear that he wants to do so and he seems to have made that clear. I wish he'd change his mind, but for now, it looks like he isn't running and we really need to respect that.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:30 PM
Response to Reply #116
128. The links are embedded in the text, my friend.
Hope that helps.
Bob
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:05 AM
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33. Mr Gore Please Ask ALL Americans to Join You at the Lincoln Memorial On Sat. 20 Oct ...
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 01:08 AM by understandinglife
... and Announce Your Presidential Campaign and Your Campaign To Restore Our Constitution and To Repair Our Earthly Home.




Thank you,
Bob
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:26 AM
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34. and show tune is????? RUN AL RUN
show tune for show time...

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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:49 AM
Response to Reply #34
36. Giving this a K&R
I forgot :wow:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:31 AM
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35. i believe the white house knows he is going to run..i think that is why we have now seen
Carville coming out saying Jeb is going to run..and this is not the first time i have seen it..

i think that is a tell tale sign ..they are terrified Gore is going to run..and so is Hillary.

just my 2 cents

fly
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:54 AM
Response to Reply #35
37. Throw my two cents in, as well.
I do believe that they're in a panic. :bounce:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:49 PM
Response to Reply #37
87. Yep!!
:hi:


Peace.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #35
139. Jeb v. Al Gore
Now that would be the presidential contest of the century. Jeb was really the one who stole the presidency from Gore. Gore would crush Jeb first thing out of the holding cage. Revenge for Gore and we who were ROBBED '00 would be a dream fantasy come true.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:09 AM
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38. k&r
:kick:
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:06 AM
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39. Mr. Gore, I hope you read this.
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 04:11 AM by Beam Me Up
I haven't read through the thread only the Opening Post but I wanted to add my voice and my comment without reading what others have to say just yet. I know I'm not alone in wanting you to run for President. I think it could well be one of the most significant moments in American history -- and very possibly world history -- if you do. I don't post much here at Democratic Underground for a variety of reasons but the main one is that I live outside of the "politics as usual" media driven "reality bubble" that most people, even here at DU, seem to inhabit. For one thing, I don't watch TV at all and haven't for many years. I can't even tolerate it as entertainment. The "reality bubble" I inhabit sees the world through a glass that is very dark indeed. I haven't been shocked at anything much that has proceeded from this fascist regime that has occupied the WH for the past 7 years. Appalled, certainly, but not "shocked." I've been watching fascism creep into American politics my whole life. It has always been there and there have been times when it held the high ground more than others but never in all my sixty years on this planet have I seen anything to compare with what has been going on since the Presidency was taken from you seven years ago. I began to suspect years before 9/11 occurred that something like a '9/11' was going to have to occur if what I thought I was seeing was actually real. When it happened I knew what it was, instantly. The details of it do matter but the point is that one singular event cemented something that before it would have been unthinkable. The United States Government now had a -- call it a 'reason' or call it an 'excuse' -- a provocation to justify the laying of a foundation for what is coming next.

What is coming next, that is, unless we stop it. This country has already gone further down the rabbit hole than ever even I thought it could. Some people are astounded daily by the evidence of corruption, malfeasance, criminality and yes, even treason, demonstrated -- apparently without any fear of consequence -- by the current regime. As astounding as this fact is, what is even more than astounding is the very real possibility that the next phase of this will be considerably worse than we've seen so far. We may be talking measures of magnitude incomprehensible in our imagining. Frankly, even after having watched your movie, I don't know what to think about global warming. I certainly believe it is real and potentially cataclysmically dangerous. How much human activity contributes to it and, therefore, how much effect we can have upon it directly is something I simply am unqualified to ascertain. However, to my thinking, it is almost irrelevant because global warming is real whatever its cause and, far, far worse, perhaps, what is equally real is a highly advanced technological civilization that is careening out of our human and humane control. The obstacles I see directly in our future are not only environmental but also political and economic -- among others I could name. What is needed now perhaps as no other time in human history is intelligence, vision, compassion, integrity and all the virtues we hold dear. Virtues, by the way, I see in you and so many other people -- some of whom, it seems to me, have lost their way. Frankly, I can not imagine how we are going to survive the crises that are looming on our historical horizon, crises of not one but many kinds, if we do not have genuine and charismatic leadership. To put it bluntly, I don't happen to share the belief that humanity can continue to blunder and plunder drunken with power and blind to its consequences as it goes forward into the future.

Ignorance is an arrogance we can no longer afford. We can no longer afford the self-satisfied position that self-governance is something that can happen when you allow those who are supposed to represent your best interest to get away with murder -- murder being, in actuality, the least of it. Ultimately I think perhaps the way to think about this is that this isn't really about you, Mr. Gore. It is about all of us. It is about your children and their futures and the futures of everyone you know and love and care about -- and millions and billions of people you do not know and will never meet. We're all familiar with the old saws regarding times that try men's souls and even if I'm only half right, these times are nothing like those that may be yet to come.

Humanity is facing its destiny right here, right now. This is it. We, all of us, day in and day out, are shaping the future and making history. However, as you well know, there are those among us who do not cherish the ideals of self-rule but, rather, view human kind as a kind of resource that needs more tending and pruning than guidance. The question all of us are going to have to answer is, are they right? Do we wish to accept the responsibility inherent in the concepts of self-rule or do we prefer to abdicate our responsibility to those whose motives and considerable means may be less than honorable?

Ultimately a man must cover the ground he stands on.

Edit typo.

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:21 AM
Response to Reply #39
43. I hope you post this as an OP ... Excellent and eloquent. Thank you!
:thumbsup:


Peace.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:27 PM
Response to Reply #39
115. I second the recommendation that you post this letter as an OP.
This post is definitely a keeper. I'm especially impressed with this observation:

How much human activity contributes to it and, therefore, how much effect we can have upon it directly is something I simply am unqualified to ascertain. However, to my thinking, it is almost irrelevant because global warming is real whatever its cause and, far, far worse, perhaps, what is equally real is a highly advanced technological civilization that is careening out of our human and humane control. The obstacles I see directly in our future are not only environmental but also political and economic -- among others I could name. What is needed now perhaps as no other time in human history is intelligence, vision, compassion, integrity and all the virtues we hold dear.

So very true. We are facing an environmental crisis we can no longer put off dealing with...that's something that becomes more obvious every day. But AT THE SAME TIME we are facing a political and economic catastrophe every bit as dangerous and threatening to human life (and possibly all life) on this planet as the environmental one!

It has become more clear to me than ever over the past few weeks that great leadership is only part of the solution to the problems facing us--you could say it's only half the equation. I am not discounting its importance for a minute, but saving our planet from catastrophe will also require an unprecedented commitment from US that will have to start now and continue for generations if it's going to have any positive effect. And it will have to be on ALL fronts at the same time: Environmental, political and economic.

It's a daunting prospect. It almost paralyzes me to consider it but I have to say it: We have now reached the point where a true metanoia or change of consciousness on a global scale is the ONLY hope for human survival! But how is that possible?



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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:19 AM
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40. when is the deadline that he has to get in the race? n/t
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:43 AM
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41. Good OP title, because it is just a "show" to those harranging him still
And everything he is saying and doing is already being heard around the world... in case you hadn't noticed. And actually, this isn't his first public appearance since the Nobel announcement. I believe he spoke to a group of ad agencies at a conference in California on Friday regarding Current. He seems totally resigned to working on this global crisis from the worldwide platform he has now that we all should be taking seriously... but hey, you go stand in the street with your banner to get more attention and scream at him to get noticed, because of course, he's not capable of thinking for himself.
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Labors of Hercules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:39 AM
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45. Ah.... music. Sweet music... NOT. nt.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:56 AM
Response to Reply #41
57. Yeah, God forbid...
... people who think highly of Al Gore ask him to be their representative in the White House.

You sound exactly like the "cool kid" at school who gets upset when other people start liking "your" favorite band.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:11 AM
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64. If you think highly of him you respect his words
You don't use his success for your own fifteen minutes of fame. He is more than capable of knowing what is in his heart and how he wishes to serve, and is doing that quite well. And after winning the Nobel Peace Prize the "White House" is small potatoes, especially this corroded one. So to me if you think highly of Al Gore you don't wish mediocrity on him, and running in this system is surely that. With a global platform for change and the resources he has now he WILL be successful in this campaign for this planet, and that is what is important now regardless of his address.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:28 PM
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82. The quote from Douglas Adams rings true...
"Anyone who is capable of getting themselves made President should on no account be allowed to do the job." Gore's not a typical politician, at least not at this stage of his career. That's exactly why many of us want to see him run - in part *because* he doesn't want the job and doesn't fit the typical mold of a "politics-first politician," he'd be the best person for it.

I agree that Gore's doing great things right now, and I'm torn over whether he should run for President or stay out of the fray and continue doing what he's doing. You're entitled to your strong opinion that he shouldn't run, and I fully respect that. What I don't get - and don't appreciate - is your intimation, which you've now made to me, that those of us intrigued by a Gore presidential run are somehow doing it "for own fifteen minutes of fame." It's a non-sequitur, it's abusive, and it's flat-out incorrect. I'm impressed by much of what you post, but you dilute the power of your message by excoriating so many of us who are big supporters of Gore and his efforts simply because you disagree on whether he should run for office again. I simply ask that you consider that before the next time you rip into one of us for wishing he'd run.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:16 PM
Response to Reply #82
89. If you consider it an insult, then don' t read my posts.
because I do believe those running Draft Gore are in it for attention, and that opinion isn't going to change anytime soon.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:58 PM
Response to Reply #89
102. I'm not running Draft Gore.
And neither are many of the others you've blasted for wanting Gore to run.

By the way, did you read my entire post? If so, do you care to respond to the rest of it, particularly as regards those of us who aren't running Draft Gore?
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NYPopulist Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:35 PM
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118. RestoreGore
Congratulations, you have single handedly made me come out of my lurker shell. I am DEEPLY insulted that you think those people in the Draft Gore movement, like myself, are in it for attention. ATTENTION!? Tell that to Bob Alexander in Michigan who clocks 14 HOUR DAYS collecting signatures and training petitioners. Tell that to the hundreds, if not over a thousand, volunteers in California working to get Gore on the ballot. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Outside of a few people at the very top of the organization, there is no fame, no publicity, and no attention whatsoever. You sir/madam are pathetic.
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #118
122. Welcome aboard, NYPopulist!
:toast: :toast: :bounce: :bounce: :toast: :toast:
:yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock: :yourock:
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:17 PM
Response to Reply #118
123. She's a madam.
Welcome to DU. That's the best first post I've seen here in all my six years. :hi:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #118
124. I am truly honored that you have posted in this thread, NYP; and I am deeply grateful ...
... for all you and your colleagues, across America, are DOING!!!

Thank you,
Bob
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:32 PM
Response to Reply #118
150. Welcome to DU, NYPopulist!
That was one hell of an entrance! :applause:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:38 PM
Response to Reply #118
154. Welcome to DU NYPopulist..glad to have you here!! and you.......
nailed it!!

can i tell you now????..i love you
:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

and you are now my new best friend!!!:hug: :hug: :hug: :pals: :pals: :pals: :pals: :hug: :hug: :hug:


RUN AL RUN!!

WELCOME TO DU!!..and i hope to see you posting often!!

fly
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:30 PM
Response to Reply #64
83. There is no bigger stage than the Presidency
I personally don't think Al is running, but that aside, the presidency is a much better place to enact real and immediate change.

The people who want him to run are thinking about the big picture. Presidency = massive, sweeping changes now.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:13 PM
Response to Reply #83
88. No they're not
From what I have seen here and on other "political" blogs they're thinking, Gore/Clinton grudge match. That isn't even in the vicinity of the big picture.
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:00 PM
Response to Reply #88
103. You really think...
... that anyone who advocates Gore's running for office just wants him to run so we can watch a political dogfight among Democrats? Has it occurred to you that maybe we think he's the best person for the job?
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:32 PM
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107. Don't mind her.
The One & Only Keeper of Al Gore's Flame of Truth routinely attacks everyone who is not The One & Only Keeper of Al Gore's Flame of Truth.

:crazy:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:31 PM
Response to Reply #107
148. ok i just spit my coffee all over my board..lollllll..eom
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:06 PM
Response to Reply #88
130. Oh, that's a tad too pessimistic
The majority of folks who want Gore to run want him to run for much bigger issues than a "grudge match". I haven't seen that at all.

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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #64
151. You know,
I always sit silently by while you attempt to discourage others about Mr. Gore running. This time though, maybe it is you who should respect that a large majority of us feel that he is the best candidate for the job. I can't help but think that while it may be annoying, having all this love thrown his way does not totally displease him. Until he comes right out and tells us all NO, which he has not yet done, we have the right to discuss it, work for it and beg and plead with him to run. If he does come out and say NO, I for one will respect that. By the way, the position of President is NOT "medocrity." It may mean the continuation of the human race at this point, not to mention the power to truly affect global change.

If he comes right out and says YES, however, I'd love to catch your reaction. :popcorn:
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:24 PM
Response to Reply #41
147. In case you didn't know..Understandinglife is a HIGHLY RESPECTED SCIENTIST..I THINK HE KNOWS WHAT
HE IS SPEAKING ABOUT!!

fly
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:19 AM
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42. The corrected AP title of the BBC NRK "interview" item is "Gore Says Still No Plans to Run"
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:48 AM
Response to Reply #42
47. Discouraging...
:cry:
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:59 AM
Response to Reply #47
49. Please don't be because that NRK item (and the misleading headline) ...
... are the same ol', same old non-statement.

If Mr Gore isn't interested in being a candidate he'll tell folk to stop, just as he did in 2004. And, he'll do it in a totally non-ambiguous manner, I'm sure, because he knows how much money, passion and energy folk are expending all over America to place his name on the ballot in numerous State's.

Take care,
Bob
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #49
79. Yeah, I know, but...
I think if he were in fact planning to make a run, he'd be softening that stance somewhat right about now? :shrug:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #49
95. You bet. Norwegian interview filtered through Murdoch's Sky media
and picked up elsewhere. It's called media distortion and media disinformation.

Here's what Gore actually said (from a dailykos diary)

Mr Gore told NRK it was a "great honour" to be awarded the prize for his climate campaigning.

Asked how it would affect his political future, he replied: "I don't have plans to be a candidate again so I don't really see it in that context at all.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/17/74241/381


It is the same thing he has said over and over again. A non-denial denial.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #49
140. 'still no plans'
is vastly different from flatly, 'no plans' as was mis-reported this morning.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #47
51. I'm taking it as a sign of his growing popularity.
The media are too eager to twist his words to their own agenda, their getting worried. It's the same thing as Gallup coming out with that poll within hours after it was announced he won the Nobel Peace Prize, they're trying to squelch his momentum.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #51
78. In_DEED! And, here's a nice debunking post at dKos ...
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:21 PM
Response to Reply #78
91. Thanks for the link, understanding life.
:thumbsup:

Peace to you.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:32 PM
Response to Reply #51
96. and it is boosting the number of signatures on the petition
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/algore2008/signatories.html

fyi, when I went to the site there were 212,406 when I started this post. I hit refresh jsut now and there were 212,408.

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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #96
98. Excellent,
thanks for the update Mabus.:hi:
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #98
105. Up another hundred signatures in less than an hour
The faux news story may be helping the cause.

This faux story is also helping to show Gore and others that we're willing to fight the media. The number of diaries debunking the story at DailyKos is also growing, as are independent blogs and the comments on forums like DU.



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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #105
111. As it should be.
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 02:52 PM by utopiansecretagent
While reading that article this morning, my bullshit detector was going off.

I then checked my email from Michigan Draft Gore (as I am a volunteer petitioner) and they said the same thing: it's bullshit and misleading - keep on truckin'.

Methinks that certain people who feel threatened by a Gore run are starting to meddle.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:02 PM
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113. And first among them is the media itself
They don't want Gore to run because there will be scrutiny on their *cough, cough* (f)re(ep)-porting in 2000. The media doesn't want to be held accountable for their actions and they want to throw both Gore and the people who want Gore to run under the bus asap.

And a big thank you for doing the petitions in Michigan. You guys are doing a great job!



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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:57 AM
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48. Thanks for the thread, understandinglife
Kicked and recommended.
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:53 AM
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52. Time is running out ...
I have been paying attention to Al Gore's work, speeches and statements over the past few months (and years) and I think it is now extremely unlikely that Al Gore will suddenly announce that he has decided to be a candidate for the 2008 Presidential election.

I watched the video clips on Current.com and I don't think they indicate he is preparing a run for the Whitehouse. What he is saying on Iraq is exactly what he said to Larry King on CNN back in May 2007. See http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0705/22/lkl.01.html

When asked directly about 2008, Gore makes it clear that he has no plans to be a candidate.

Al Gore interviewed for 01238 Magazine - Sept-Oct 2007

A recent poll shows that if you entered the presidential race, you would handily win the New Hampshire primary. Isn’t that tempting?


GORE: Sure. But I am old enough and have been a candidate enough times to have a very high level of resistance to temptations of that sort. I trust my instincts, and it doesn’t feel like it’s the right thing for me.

But if you believe global warming is such a crisis, wouldn’t you be more effective within the White House than outside it?

GORE: I’m under no illusion that there’s any position in the world as influential as that of president. But it doesn’t feel like the right thing for me to be a candidate at this point. I have had the experience of seeing how necessary it is to have adequate support among the people as a whole for the dramatic policy changes that are needed. It may well be that the best use of whatever skills and talents and experiences that I have gained is to concentrate on creating that sea change in mass opinion about this issue, so that whoever is elected will face a groundswell from the people themselves.

Will you endorse a candidate in the primary?

GORE: Odds are that I will.

Who?

GORE: I haven’t made that decision yet.

http://www.02138mag.com/magazine/article/1485.html


I think that Al Gore wants to influence the debate over the next 12 months, leading up to the Presidential election. I think he will be an important and valuable supporter of the Democratic ticket, and an asset to the campaign of our eventual nominee. He is on the record as promising he will support the Democratic nominee in 2008 (as he has always done).

It's a real shame he is not running because in many ways he is the best person for the job.

There is nothing wrong with telling Al Gore that we want him to be our President. But if he stays out of the race then I think we should respect his decision and support his efforts to influence the national debate on the climate crisis and a whole range of issues.


Let's all find ways to show our support for Al Gore! :patriot:

Sign the Live Earth Pledge: www.liveearthpledge.org

Visit Al's site www.algore.com and read his blog http://blog.algore.com

Sign the petitions at www.algore.org and www.draftgore.com

Visit www.americaforgore.org and send your two cents to Al!

:kick:
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:05 AM
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53. K&R.
And as for the NRK story:

That story is a non-story - Gore has said nothing more concerning running that he's not said before.

I have the distinct feeling that certain "powers that be" are trying to counter the growing Draft Gore Movement, in order to deflate it.

I'm gonna keep on truckin for Gore until I see a definative, unambiguous statement one way or the other.

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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:06 AM
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54. K&R!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:12 AM
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55. AL GORE has a responsibility to the voters who elected him in 2000. It wasn't his fault
that the BFEE and their toady SCOTUS stole the election from him, but considering the activists who worked without help from corporate media in exposing what has occurred in this country and countless others who lives will be effected from the follow-up to this fascist rule, he has a duty to share his vision and talents in the role of president!

RUN AL RUN!

:patriot:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:25 AM
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56. K&R....Hope there will be some YouTube of this so we can all view it...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 09:58 AM
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58. Rec 42. I'll take that as a good sign!!
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:05 AM
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59. k&r. . . n/t
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:06 AM
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60. well, I am going to get flamed for saying this
But there comes a point in time when the Draft Gore movement no longer becomes flattering to Mr Gore and becomes a pain in the ass. He is not running. He is already booked to speak at a Climate Change conference in February 2008. http://www.decanter.com/news/148315.html?aff=rss

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Flarney Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:56 AM
Response to Reply #60
61. But couldn't he put an end to it with a direct statement?
It makes me think he wants the movement to continue, either to keep a light shined on his climate change work, or because he's still considering.

After he says that he's definitely out for '08, then yes, I can see how the Draft Gore efforts might become a pain in his ass.

Also, hopefully the Draft Gore movement will pressure the declared candidates to put more focus on Climate Change.

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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:57 AM
Response to Reply #60
62. So why doesn't he stop it like he did in 2004?
Or is the Al Gore you know too stupid to figure out the exact words to use to stop people spending so much time and money on his behalf?
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:26 AM
Response to Reply #62
66. He didn't ask them to spend that money or start anything
And he stopped nothing in 2004 until it stopped after he endorsed Dean, more than likely because he believes adults should be able to decide and think for themselves. I say, if you are too much in denial to understand his words it's not his fault. He already stated that he doesn't feel that he should have to apologize for not wanting to get into the political fray. Perhaps if people so determined just to get their names in the news actually listened to his words they would know where he stands. But your comment just proves this is not really being done for any noble purpose but clearly for the "what's in it for me" crowd... and perhaps even some residual bitterness at him because he said no in 2004, so he owes them? I hope he continues to keep saying what he is saying. He owes no one a "Sherman" statement and that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard regarding him. It is required of no one else and shouldn't be of him to justify the continued harrassment of him when he is clearly doing wonderful work for this world. If anything on the political front would change so drastically that he would reconsider, then and ONLY then would any kind of monetary or other support go directly to him. It isn't going to be a group of people screaming at him that changes his mind should that ever happen, and if they had read his book they would already know that.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #66
67. Same lies being told.
"And he stopped nothing in 2004 until it stopped after he endorsed Dean" Untrue.


"In 2002, Gore asked Malone to stop a draft effort he had begun; Malone did. Malone started up again and, so far, Gore hasn't waved him off."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/08/AR2007020801273.html

Can we try being more honest in the future?

You should try reading his book, it may enlighten you.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:34 AM
Response to Reply #67
69. DRAFT GORE STOPPED AFTER HE ENDORSED DEAN
I KNOW because I was following it. Dylan Malone was NOT A PART OF THAT and did absolutely NOTHING regarding it. And he never even stopepd what I or others did AFTER that. So take your BS and bury it.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #69
71. LIE.
Read the article and if you have issue with it, contact the Washington Post and sell your BS there.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #71
90. I dont't have to read anything from the BS MSM, I lived it
And actually, calling a member a liar here is against board rules. Maybe you should familiarize yourself with them.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:35 PM
Response to Reply #90
97. But telling lies is?
So it is okay to blatantly say something that is false, but it is not okay to point out the obvious false statement with the most simple and direct word attached to pointing it out (lying) AND to provide direct reference to contradiction, which has never been credibly contradicted.

You may want to familiarize yourself with something called reference and facts. I provided them, you did not.
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RestoreGore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #97
104. You provided nothing but a link
TOTALLY UNRELATED to the group I was talking about. Dylan Malone had NOTHING to do with Draft Gore 04 which did not dissolve until the day after Al Gore endorsed Howard Dean, and he never asked any other group to stop any other efforts for him even after that. Whether you wish to believe it or not is not my damn problem, and Dylan Malone is not the last word on anything.
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #104
106. The link proves what you said FALSE.
Your quote, directly, "And he stopped nothing in 2004 until it stopped after he endorsed Dean.."

That is completely, totally, utterly FALSE. Al Gore did, IN FACT, contact leaders of a Draft Gore movement, the largest one, and ask them to stop efforts. This is proven in the link and has never been denied. Al Gore did not have to contact every single fringe draft gore group to make the claim that he STOPPED a draft Gore movement true and your statement that he "stopped nothing" false.

You really need to start distinguishing between the facts as they exist and the way you may want them to exist, it will help you not be proven to be making false statements in the future.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:39 PM
Response to Reply #106
109. Not only that, the Draft Gore movement in 2004 was very small.
Now it's huge. It has made huge headlines, it even got a (very expensive) full page ad published in the NYT. By *not* contacting them like he did in 2004 is saying something, huge.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #106
110. The One & Only Keeper of Al Gore's Flame of Truth
does not need facts.

They are beneath Her - and so are you.

Now go do your penance.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:30 AM
Response to Reply #66
68. He owes me a Sherman-esque statement, simply because he said he wasn't going to give one...
...until he decided.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:48 PM
Response to Reply #66
121. Al Gore announced definitively in a 60 Minutes interview
in December of 2002 that he wasn't running. Long before he ever endorsed Howard Dean. Any Draft Gore movement at that point didn't need to be stopped, it was a tiny group, because he had already said "I am not going to run". In fact he never told that remaining tiny Draft Gore group to stop, they just gave up because it was obviously a futile effort. He had already told Holy Joe that he wasn't running and he had already told the serious draft campaign to cut it out, as had been previously noted. What is your angle anyway? I have yet to figure you out.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #121
137. Correction, he did tell AlGore.org to stop.
He has yet to tell the same people behind AlGore.org to stop. And it's much further along in the process than last time.
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debbierlus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:03 AM
Response to Original message
63. I want to hear the speech but I can not find ANY links

I tried going to their web page but it only gives a history of the club & member login. Will the speech be broadcase ANYWHERE?

Thanks
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #63
72. RSVP for Al Gore Economic Club Meetup OCT 17 -- 2007
Here's the link: http://draftalgore.meetup.com/48/calendar/6417733/

Any DUer's and family in the Chicago area might want to consider attending!!


Peace.
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lynnertic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:45 AM
Response to Original message
70. rec #50 in honor of my childhood home HI

Heaven on Earth, and two-thirds of it could be lost to global warming.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/06/060605-hawaii.html
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emmadoggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:51 AM
Response to Original message
74. An R and a kickety, kick, kick from me.
:kick:
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Highway61 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:52 AM
Response to Original message
76. I think it is time
For ALL Gore supporters, websites etc... to collectively gather under one umbrella at this point and soon. The strength is in those numbers.
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 11:54 AM
Response to Original message
77. PLEASE AL...DON'T LEAVE US WITH HILLARY!!! N/T
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:57 PM
Response to Reply #77
142. This is the BEST
reason yet for Gore to run.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:00 PM
Response to Original message
80. K & R! nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:19 PM
Response to Original message
81. He is our ONLY option - and he's a good one. K*R
Gore has grown and also pulled back the curtain so we can see where he's really at politically.

He must be our nominee. NOT ONE Republican running is qualified to hold public office, let alone be president, not one. The contenders on our side pale compared to Gore.

DRAFT GORE!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #81
86. "Gore has grown and also pulled back the curtain so we can see where he's really at politically."
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 12:47 PM by understandinglife
:thumbsup:

:hi: my friend!

Peace.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:27 PM
Response to Reply #81
94. I whole heartedly agree. He is the perfect fit for the perfect storm left by *.
GORE OR BUST!

:hi:
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 12:44 PM
Response to Original message
84. Rec #60 in honor of my President

:kick: Run Al Run!
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youngharry Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:23 PM
Response to Reply #84
93. Al Gore
Restore Gore and you restore America as a beacon of hope not only to Americans, but to the world.
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:22 PM
Response to Original message
92. Just signed petition. I'm in 100%. I think we're facing a whole bunch of critical
issues that need attention from the best we have to offer. We've had the worst, literally, now we need the best. We don't need the most well-funded or well-connected candidate...We need a hero.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:24 PM
Response to Reply #92
152. " i need a hero!"
I need a hero
I’m holding on for a hero ‘til the end of the night
He’s gotta be strong
And he’s gotta be fast
And he’s gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I’m holding on for a hero ‘til the morning light
He’s gotta be sure
And it’s gotta be soon
And he’s gotta be larger than life

I need a hero
I’m holding on for a hero ‘til the end of the night


we all need Al GORE!!!!!!!!!

FLY
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
99. It's more important that Al Gore RUN than that he WIN.
The fact that he would win is a fringe benefit.

Can you imagine the number of common-sense views and opinions he could place in our national discourse if he were campaigning?
The number of things he has said that nobody has listened to because he hasn't had the platform to say them? (Thinking of the MLK day speech)

If he really wants to influence political discourse in this country, running for President would be absolutely the best thing he could do.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
100. A Gore/Clinton Smackdown would certainly be a sight to behold. n/t
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 01:52 PM
Response to Original message
101. Look, guys, I agree that Gore should run
and I would love to see him do it. But it seems to me that he's made it clear over and over again that he has no intention of running and no plans to do so, and we need to respect his wishes in that regard. He feels he can do much more good just doing what he's doing now, and he's said more than once that, for the first time in his life, he really feels comfortable with his position and what he's doing. He was always doing what others wanted him to do, particularly his father.

We really need to LISTEN to him and respect his wishes.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 02:37 PM
Response to Reply #101
108. We have been listening...
And very closely, I might add. You, dear poster, have not been listening to Gore... nor to us... or you would not be saying such silly things.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:33 PM
Response to Reply #108
117. Silly things? Excuse me?
He has said, repeatedly and directly, that he has NO plans to run and does NOT wish to do so. How much freaking clearer does he have to be? Just because YOU want it doesn't mean that HE wants it. Silly things, indeed.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #117
156. Ho hum...
If he really, truly didn't want to run, he would say things such as: "I am not going to run for president." That would be clear. To continue with the, "I have no current plans," "I'm currently not planning on...," only fuels the speculation.

You are welcome for the lesson in the English language.

Silly is NOT understanding that language. I'm quite sure Mr. Gore understands the language perfectly, and is using it to his advantage.
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OrangeCountyDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:27 PM
Response to Reply #101
127. THIS ISN'T ABOUT HIM!!
IT'S ABOUT THIS FUCKING COUNTRY!!!

IT'S ABOUT AMERICA, DAMNIT!!
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:00 PM
Response to Original message
112. I will be in Chicago tomorrow in spirit
and thank you for this post.

Gore is stoking hope by not saying definitively that he will not run. I truly feel that he is
leaving that option open for a reason. I hope it's not just to keep the mystery alive for
strategic reasons -- which would be to heighten interest in everything he says and does. This
is certainly more the case than if he clearly said he will not run.
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AikidoSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:14 PM
Response to Original message
114. Today there's a Gore topic blog at the NY Times -- go there an post a comment
about how much you want him to become president. Maybe it will cut through all the BS that
the polls are putting out about how Gore is not favored as a candidate. There are many
on the NYT blog who want him, but there are also some vicious posts that promote the same
lies originated by the MSM.

One blogger also mentioned how regularly popular the threads are on democraticunderground.com when they stoke hope for a Gore presidency.


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/gores-campaign-donations/
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #114
125. Excellent. Thank you AkidoSoul!!
Peace.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
120. When he announces I shall burst into tears.
Sheer Joy. I do not feel like we shall ever recover until THIS MAN SERVES HIS TERM.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 04:26 PM
Response to Original message
126. RRRRRRecommended!
There are those of us convinced Al Gore will be nominated by his party and re-elected to the Presidency by the citizenry, those of us who hope that will happen, those of us who don't think it will happen, and those of us who don't want it to happen.

I'm in the first group and am part of the determined Californians who will make it happen. Join us at california4gore.org. Let's for the love of God make history.



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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:02 PM
Response to Reply #126
129. "Join us at california4gore.org. Let's for the love of God make history."
In_DEED.

And, because of you and your colleagues that will be the outcome ... history made based on an exceptional leader and person being elected to the Presidency = Mr Gore.

Thank you!
Bob
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:17 PM
Response to Original message
131. One of the billboards for the event tonight in Chicago ...
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 05:39 PM by understandinglife


Relevant info: http://draftalgore.meetup.com/48/calendar/6417733/

And, please note that at least one of the DraftGore folk will be attending the dinner and will be attempting to show Mr Gore the poster during the event.

Thank you everyone in Chicago for all you are doing to convince Mr Gore to lead as President and lead a Presidential campaign.
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:35 PM
Response to Reply #131
132. You should really shrink that down.
I can't make heads or tails of it that size.


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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:40 PM
Response to Reply #132
133. Repaired ... thanks to you!!
:yourock:


Peace.
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:42 PM
Response to Reply #133
135. Oh, come on!
Now what's vinyl sign guy gonna do?
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jaybeat Donating Member (729 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:41 PM
Response to Reply #132
134. True. But it IS a good size if...
If you wanted, oh, I don't know...

to make a GIANT BANNER at the local vinyl sign place.

BTW, any Chicago area sign-shop owners for Gore? Are you LISTENING???!!!

(Heck, gotta be cheaper than Rhandi Rhodes' dental work, deserved as it may be!)
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #131
136. VickieStein: IN CHICAGO: GORE SPEAKS TONIGHT AT 6:45 PM CDT
Edited on Wed Oct-17-07 05:44 PM by understandinglife

<clip>

is because it provides Al Gore with a forum to comment, one way or another, about his intentions, or lack thereof, to jump into the fray of the 2008 Presidential Election. To date, over 250,000 people have signed the Draft Gore petition (both on line and in person), and the call for him to run has reached a fever pitch. If Al Gore plans to deliver a Sherman-esque statement saying that he has "completely" ruled out running for president in 2008, this would be an excellent opportunity to do so. Although a quarter of a million Americans (and come on, we know there are many more of us than that out there - they just haven't signed the petitiion - yet) would be sorely disappointed, at least he'd put the clamp down on the anticipation that has been flying around at the grass roots level in recent weeks.

Personally, I think the Draft Gore movement is a breath of fresh air because it is fueled by People Powered Political Activism, and it gives those of us who despair at the state of our nation hope that maybe we can be some small part of a greater good to stop this train wreck and turn things around. I really want Al Gore to run, and I want to work for him and I'd ultimately love for him to be the next POTUS, but I'm realistic, and at this point, I'd just like to know if he's shut the door on running for president. Or if he's going to open it and invite a flood of us in to make sure that he secures the nomination.

<clip>


Well stated, and I truly hope he opens the flood gate, soon!


Peace.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 05:56 PM
Response to Original message
138. KNR and waiting for a word from the meeting.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 06:49 PM
Response to Original message
141. GOOOOOOOOOORRRREEEEE!!
GOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRREEEEE!!!

shouts the crowd at the soccer stadium. ;)

RUN AL RUN!!!!

dg
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #141
155. See,
that was a really good response.

You be representin', girl.

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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:01 PM
Response to Original message
143. Please, Al, your country needs you
Run, please. I pray.
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SlowDownFast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 07:30 PM
Response to Original message
144. Please - anyone who knows anything 'bout how Chicago went
give us da goods!

Kickaroondoo!
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:03 PM
Response to Original message
145. "Well, KO just said, "not a definite no.""
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:22 PM
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146. The Crypt Keeper approves of Gore
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 08:41 PM
Response to Original message
149. Go Al!
There are million of us behind you. If you run, you'll win!

We need you -- the country needs you -- the world needs you.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-17-07 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #149
153. "There are million(s) of us behind you. If you run, you'll win!"
DEFINITELY!!!!

note slight edit ;)

Thank you,
Bob
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connecticut yankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 09:38 PM
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158. mea culpa
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johnp Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-18-07 02:58 PM
Response to Original message
157. Gore is not a hypocrite , he's the real deal, go GORE!
I don't know what the deal is with all these people saying Gore is a hypocrite. I mean the guy lives out of an apartment and flies coach just like the rest of us. Some punk was saying on the news that he flies in a private jet and he has 3 mansions, come on!, I know nothing could be further from the truth. I say to these people, there is no way he could be flying private, or riding around in a limo, if that were true, then why did he get a Nobel Prize? The right wing smear campaign knows no limits. Spreading lies about a great man is typical of their lowness. Gore would win hands down if he ran, but I know he won't so I am voting for Obama.
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