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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:46 AM Original message |
Rescue animal agency denies families with kids to adopt small dogs...Why? |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:50 AM Response to Original message |
1. Sure doesn't seem right to me. |
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Devlzown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. Is one of the girls named Sarah Silverman? |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. i wonder if they let families with kids under 14 adopt cats? |
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liberalla (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. I have never heard of that before and It doesn't sound right to me. nt |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
5. I've seen this before and I think it's crap |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:21 AM Response to Original message |
6. Wait a minute, the story says the dog was taken away because |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:30 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I didn't know Ellen had her viewers stage a hate campaign... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Your link, the article you posted said |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. In no way was she attempting to intentionally incite people... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Ellen told her audience who the nasty ol' adoption agency was |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. So she should be held responsible for what other people do? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:14 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. So by the same measure, Michelle Malkin |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:22 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. If she wasn't inciting people to make death threats... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:29 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Would you give a 12 year old kid to Michelle or one of her friends |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:39 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I think you got the order of events wrong... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Number three on your list is specifically forbidden in PAWS contracts |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. It's Ellen...NOT Helen...at least get that part right if nothing else... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
114. Actually it WAS Helen. |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Just what did you mean by this? |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Michelle Malkin...I despise her and those of her ilk... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Thanks |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #15 |
89. Completely different scenarios. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
95. Let's get some facts straight: Malkin LIED about the Frost family and disclosed PERSONAL |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
53. I think folks who actually saw the clip from her show... |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #12 |
97. I watched the show yesterday, and Ellen NEVER said the name of the agency |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #12 |
101. No she didn't |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
115. No "Helen" didn't mention the name |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
52. Bullcrap |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
65. CBS this morning had a voice mail left by DeGeneres' publicist |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Who cares about the damn contract? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:54 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Contracts are important when animal safety is involved |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:17 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. We have to admit it folks, kids play rough and are NOT aware of such. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
90. 11 and 12 year old girls should probably be old enough... |
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FreeState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
109. Did you even watch the show? |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Ellen (not Helen) did not "have her viewers stage a hate campaign |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:23 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. After being on the receiving end of a deluge of death threats |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. So the dog is at a hidden bunker or something? |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. The dog was not in the home in which the agency placed it |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You said.... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:00 AM Response to Reply #27 |
35. Let's do the steps again |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. In other words you choose to ignore your own statements... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:16 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. As do you |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No of course not. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
116. Damn that evil Helen! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
22. IMO, with regard to rationale and understanding of K9 behavior and issues, Ellen is a meatball. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. All I wanted to know was why the agency was denying... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:49 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Small Dogs Are Apt To Bite First |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Well, that doesn't make a lot of sense to me... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:59 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Oh please, in a pet adoption contract there are a myriad of concerns. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I'm not coming down on the people who run the shelter... |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
94. Preventing bites to children is a matter of the dog's safety |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:04 PM Response to Reply #94 |
120. BINGO |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
119. I bet it's because Small Child Are Apt To Bite First |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Because even young teens are often NOT responsible enough to "dedicate" themselves to |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
36. That does make sense... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:12 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. Thank you cynatnite. That was very thoughtful of you to add. |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
54. Because small children think pulling physical "pranks" on dogs is funny. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:43 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Deleted message |
Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:37 AM Response to Reply #58 |
70. you could have put a warning on that post. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:51 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. Why, it's a perfect REAL example of what can happen when you don't properly vet |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. yes, it is, |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
55. I volunteer for a rescue organization |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 08:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
62. Are we SURE it was "overzealous" fans who made threats? |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
113. Damn that Helen! |
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Holly_Hobby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:51 AM Response to Original message |
28. Because they can. n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
32. Idiotic, stupid, no accounting for people's ignorance. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:07 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. And if your baby, well, acts like a baby and "gets rough" with the dog. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. My dogs don't act that way. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. OK, but one day you will be surprised when all those "human characteristics" |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #51 |
126. I disagree |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. "Protection" dogs tend to dislike other dogs. "Bad wolf, get away from sheep/master" |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. Just gotta say that is the most adorable photo! n/t |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Thank you. |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #32 |
59. Good for you, however, not everybody is a responsible parent. |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:39 AM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Ellen took a dog in, and then gave it up |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Are you replying to my post? |
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cuke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #68 |
88. Whoops |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #88 |
102. Thats OK, I was confused. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #59 |
121. Exactly |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:12 AM Response to Original message |
41. We had to undergo an interview 3x before we were allowed to |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:14 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. What were they looking for when they inspected your home? n/t |
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woodsprite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Toys on the floor, how the kids acted, they actually gave the kids |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:18 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. And IMO, God bless them for closely vetting people. A K-9 introduced to the family |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
61. there you go, the little kids should have a sturdy pit bull. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
63. Because small children don't realize small dogs have small bones, and they break. |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
64. The agency said it was just following standard adoption procedure.... |
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malta blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
66. I just went through a rescue process |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
67. It's very standard pet adoption contract. But the funny thing is, if your unneutered dog |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
71. Seems Silly To Me, Too |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Please read my answer #69. You wouldn't *believe* the idiots |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
79. I believe you ... I was acquainted with a woman who did sheepdog rescue. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:48 AM Response to Reply #71 |
76. A responsible breeder has a contract |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:08 AM Response to Reply #76 |
80. Yes, I have always purchased our K9s from a reputable breeder. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. LOL! My life is "Best In Show." |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Too funny! I used to tag along with a friend who was into show dogs. |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. Maybe Some |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. Caveat emptor. nt |
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ProfessorGAC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Absolutely |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
69. You know, I've read through this mess of hyperbole and |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:10 AM Response to Reply #69 |
81. You are assuming most people aren't idiots. Unfortunately, you |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #69 |
87. You do realize that the vast majority of people who work animal rescue are VOLUNTEERS? |
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Susang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #87 |
111. Having been one of those volunteers |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
72. Let me explain the rescue process to all of you, and the reason WHY |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #72 |
93. But there is a huge problem with this |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #93 |
107. You've already done what I would have suggested. |
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Ayesha (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. Actually that isn't true |
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IdaBriggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
73. As a rescue person who fostered 88+ puppies, let me explain some of the |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. As another rescue person, well said! |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:01 PM Response to Reply #73 |
118. 1d) Would Ellen and Portia be considered "living togethers"? |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
122. Please make this post itsown thread |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
74. The rescue group we got ours from almost wouldn't let us have Charley. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #74 |
78. We don't know all the facts. Just perhaps there was a "valid concern" that the Rescue Agency |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #78 |
104. That's true. We don't know why the agency decided to take back the dog. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
82. because if any kind of conflict arises between the dog and a child.... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Well Put Scout! |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #82 |
96. I know this is true and it makes me sad. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:33 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. That's what my parents would've done, too. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #96 |
123. But, some people would have taken your furry sister outside and shot her for that |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #82 |
105. That's not how I was raised. |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
91. I know someone who had to give away their small dog |
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InvisibleTouch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
99. In general, large breeds are better for young kids... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #99 |
110. True. The "no children unde 14" seems rather out of whack to me. My kids are both |
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minerva50 (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
108. My Mother has a chihuahua/Jack Russel Mix |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
117. Quite a few breeders and rescue orgs have this rule -- I have no problem with it |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-17-07 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
124. They can set whatever rules they want, and this is why |
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125. UNDER FOURTEEN? |
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