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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:31 AM Original message |
What if we've already been rounded up? The pragmatism of a dystopian present-tense. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
1. Let me be the first one to recommend this |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. thanky nadinbrzezinski... |
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Fovea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. spot on |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. She's one of my favorite halloween night readyings |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
2. K & R -- I believe you have hit the proverbial nail. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. i think that the biggest clue to that is to pay heed when the oligarchs squeal... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #2 |
7. The first step is recognizing a problem |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. whoa! you intuited a theme i edited out of this essay... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Been sounding an alarm about this for a while |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. i don't do ignore -- used to -- but missed the deconstruction funtime |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #13 |
15. When it has gone from deconstruction to stalking |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. totally -- i totally get that |
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BleedingHeartPatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
76. nadin, you bring brilliant enlightenment and it can |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #76 |
86. Wear some glasses!!!!!! |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #8 |
131. also grab a copy of Machiavelli's The Prince |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. People think that we have too many rugged individualists with guns. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. nothing would please the authoritarians MORE than the promise of "gunplay" |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. Right, |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. that SLA photo -- what a BIZARRE period of our history! |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
3. Come on, we only need 1 more for Greatest. nt |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:40 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Done |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. afterthought -- on the picture of the floating dead and powerboat guy... |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. All too well said. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Tom pass me the popcorn, some folks will soon show up |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. "to all my friends..." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Oh my, thank you |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. my pleasure... :) |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. :) coming from "tom_paine" i'm totally wigged! |
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SammyWinstonJack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
16. Recommended! |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
24. A virtual round up can |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Yep, they are disappearing people all the time. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. judging from your response, you don't understand my argument -- so, why don't you |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. those were my own words. And I think I understood |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. b/c i'm talking about POWER, not FREEDOM |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. you also make the argument that the two are intertwined |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. so, you missed the part about oligarchy, too. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Nope. Just because I didn't address it, doesn't mean I missed it. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. so, tell me what your critique is. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
72. Hahahaha! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. far as i can tell, they don't care for a discussion here. pity. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:15 AM Response to Reply #72 |
98. It's lovely when you see a stream of "Ignores" |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 02:21 AM Response to Reply #72 |
106. I don't know which one it is. I never look and the ignore makes it difficult |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
99. That wasn't the use of the royal we, that was the OP |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
100. Double post nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
67. A nice non-threatening day at the inauguration. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:41 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. good lord -- i'd forgotten about in-ugh-uration day. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #70 |
92. What freaked me out about inauguration 2004, watching it on CSPAN |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. that's revolting. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:25 AM Response to Reply #92 |
101. I wish you hadn't told me that just as I'm about to go to bed. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #101 |
121. I could agree with |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #92 |
124. oh god that is sickening enough to me do this |
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Cookie wookie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:40 PM Response to Reply #24 |
69. Guess you weren't there in DC for the tularemia scare |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. i'd forgotten about the tularemia until i was bitten by deer flies earlier this year... |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. this is very interesting -- tulermia is the most infectious pathogenic bacteria known |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #24 |
75. There was a march in DC? When. Why didn't I hear about it? How come it |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. no doubt! n/t |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
26. When they finally shut DU down |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. If we don't hang together |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:19 AM Response to Reply #29 |
109. Doesn't Appear So |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. there won't be a "shutting down" -- more likely they'd subpoena our browsing/posting history and IPs |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #31 |
103. They're getting the names of all of us who have |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
110. Now, Why Would They Need A Subpoena |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
27. Jesus H Christ on a trailer hitch! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. thanks, hoot -- just making lemonade with this stinky pile of lemons |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. recc'd and earmarking to comment on later |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
68. thanks lerk... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. We're already under 'house arrest' |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. self-censorship happens silently -- we can have no idea how many people |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. You've made some FINE observations there, Nashville. recommended. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. thanks... as has been pointed out: loss of POWER *precedes* loss of FREEDOM |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I wish I had something to add to this discussion, as I've been having similar thoughts for awhile. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. you know how it's inconceivable that you'd wreck your car -- until you wreck your car? |
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bbgrunt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
42. I want to recommend this more than once! |
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ProfessorPlum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
43. Thanks for this |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. it was your thread yesterday that kicked this idea off for me -- |
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ProfessorPlum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. I've long been writing and editing and re-editing an essay |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:46 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. i've been finding that "freedom" is impossible to define -- power seems better suited as a measure |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #85 |
102. You can call it learned helplessness, too. nt |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #102 |
117. good one! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
46. Best Damn Post In A Long Time |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. thanks -- it's been pointed out that i might not have connected the last dot... |
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WilliamPitt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
52. "Freedom is nothing without POWER" |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. freedom's just another word for... |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
53. It Kinda Snuck Up On Us |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. i think we need to get back to our founders' ideas -- that oligarchy is antithetical to democracy |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
87. BINGO |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. Our problem is that we've lost our POWER, not our FREEDOM. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. interesting point -- our leadership isn't giving us the message that "we have the power..." |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #55 |
82. I will argue though that we surrendered that power |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
59. well said nb |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:51 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. maybe it's like the denial we see on the face of Larry Craig's wife -- she's too invested |
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MedleyMisty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
60. I'm reading The Assault on Reason |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Al Gore is almost mystically idealistic about the power of the internet |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
61. Brava |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. we really shouldn't be eager for it to get *any worse* !! |
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Oak2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:36 PM Response to Reply #64 |
126. Understatement |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
65. the power of one |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 05:32 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. so, i'm a "boisterous fanatic"? -- how so? |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #65 |
90. I used to believe as you do, sadly I no longer can, if we continue to be passive |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 07:19 PM Response to Original message |
74. DAMN GOOD POST!! |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. i've been thinking a lot about pragmatism lately -- seems like we've been |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
77. My answer to one question of yours |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:12 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. maybe you could also see that as the acquiring of freedom(s) -- |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. Thank you for your kind words, |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:02 AM Response to Reply #88 |
96. i wonder how they're teaching american history now in school, b/c my experience |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
80. K&R |
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NoGodsNoMasters (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
83. Good points. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #83 |
114. ""This is how democracy dies, with thunderous applause." |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-19-07 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
84. Regarding Secrecy |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #84 |
91. internal vs external control -- if you can make people censor themselve, you avoid |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 12:16 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. Right...I just feel like if we could stop beating ourselves we'd be a force to be reckoned with. |
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undergroundpanther (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
97. Freedom? |
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lakeguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
104. it's already too late... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
105. Thank you |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
107. K&R to Powers of Ten! A very welcome and honest post. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:14 AM Response to Original message |
108. You Are So Right |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 06:29 AM Response to Original message |
111. America 2007 is Germany 1930 |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. Makes your skin crawl. |
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Bryan Sacks (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. What happened to these links? |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #118 |
137. The links are working ok for me. Not sure why you have a problem with them n/t |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
123. Chilling - This Is Exactly What Is Happening Today |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
113. I do not feel free to go to any peaceful demonstration without facing the very real possiblity |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #113 |
116. i was very active in college -- it was my REAL education -- i was AMAZED |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #116 |
122. and here i thought it was only big brother we had to worry about. |
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RebelSansCause (304 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
115. very well said |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
119. This brilliant post should be a sticky IMO. |
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iheartobama (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I'm moving to Canada |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #120 |
129. Hi there, let me welcome you to DU |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
125. excellent read! permission to spread it around? |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #125 |
135. permission granted -- totally. |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-20-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
127. Too late to recommend, but kicking anyway and bookmarking. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
128. booga |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
130. Excellent post |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 11:06 AM Response to Reply #130 |
136. thank you -- very much. |
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Gonzo Gardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 01:35 AM Response to Original message |
132. Fantastic post... you effing nailed it, my dear! |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 08:37 AM Response to Original message |
133. cannot rec, but will kick |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-21-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
134. 2 Thumbs up .....a Snap! and a Yes! |
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