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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:05 PM
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Does anybody know if Yo Yo Ma is a Democrat?
I was just wondering.

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Rhythm and Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:10 PM
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1. I don't recall him endorsing any American political parties.
I would be vaguely disappointed if I were to learn he did.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:14 PM
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3. I understand why you would say that. I know of him through the
contact of a professional acquaintence but don't have the temerity to ask into his politics. I'm curious at the same time. He appears to align with some pointedly humane undertakings and speaks as if he felt deeplly about peaceful initiatives -- but I'm with you on not recalling any political endorsements.

Also he can turn the mechanical notes of an adagio movement into vivid gemstones in the blink of an eye. What a talent.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:16 PM
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4. Why?
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:18 PM
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7. Why? Because he IS a great talent. Cello doesn't look to me like an
especially simple instrument to master.

Certainly there's hours of hard and challenging and insurmountable technique to overcome, but I think the talent component is essential as well.

I could listen to Yo Yo Ma all night.

And have -- often.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:48 PM
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19. With all due respect, I don't see how endorsing a political party would affect his...
...devotion to his art. In fact, I would be surprised if he were so monolithic as to have no interests beyond the cello.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:54 PM
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21. Yep. I can't speak for his range of interests, but only suspect that they
are considerable and varied.

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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:12 PM
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2. He donated to Deval Patrick in '06
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:16 PM
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5. Hey there, JeffR.
Well, Gov. Patrick is a Democrat if there ever was one, so maybe that helps locate Mr. Ma on the political spectrum.

Thank you.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:23 PM
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9. Hi OC
There was also his advocacy of loosening restrictive visa requirements:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/04/AR2006040401788.html

I'd say he's a liberal, if not a Dem per se.

Off-topic, he was, uh, instrumental in the creation of an innovative park here in Toronto:

http://www.toronto.ca/parks/music_index.htm

It's a beautiful place.

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stellanoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:30 PM
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11. A suggestion for a new DUzy catagory. . .
worst pun of the week.

Think you can bribe a judge or somethin" ?

:hi:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:33 PM
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13. Cello there, Ms. Noir!
Couldn't help myself!
:hi:

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:10 PM
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24. "There's always room for cello."
:evilgrin:
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:04 PM
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36. Mmmmm, limoncello?



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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:32 PM
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12. Thank you for those links. "...uh, instrumental..." LOL!
It's looking to me as if your reading is a bingo.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:17 PM
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6. Sadly my mom has been a republican for life
Wait. Never mind.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:19 PM
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8. Tell your mom to do two things. First, she needs to switch parties for the 08
election.

Well in advance of the election, she should do the second thing -- pick up some Yo Yo Ma CDs.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:25 PM
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10. I think my ma is already into Ma
and see has voted against party in recent elections and is starting to see the light about things. I am, of course ever the annoying son on a soapbox about things too. I'm proud of her. She started to get it after she took my stepson to "Farenheit 9/11". I frequently make her watch Keith Olbermann clips when she visits.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:33 PM
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14. Good for you. Sounds like she's coming around. The Olbermann clips
should help quite a bit, and the Moore film library is always good stuff.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:38 PM
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15. I doubt much could stop me from being enthralled by his artistry on the cello.
Yo-yo and Petunia are awesome together.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:43 PM
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18. On politics, TahitiNut, you are merely breath-takingly compelling; but in your
musical tastes, you are damned near perfect.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:07 PM
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23. It's merely my skin, not my brain. Yo-yo Ma gives me goosebumps.
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 01:11 PM by TahitiNut
I couldn't play a musical instrument if my life depended on it - not even "chopsticks." But there's something about Yo-yo Ma on the cello that will grab me even more than Isaac Stern on the violin. I've been known to get tears listening to him. But I sometimes have the same reaction to Louis Armstrong, Miss Ella, Earl Scruggs, and even the Moody Blues and CCR ... so my 'taste' is probably questionable to some.
:dunce:
One of my VERY favorite episodes of West Wing was when Yo-yo Ma was a guest star. The Bach Suite #1 for Cello is one of my favorites and Yo-yo Ma is THE definitive performance, imho. Tears and goosebumps. (I'm a Vivaldi "Four Seasons" fan, too. And "Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini" by Rachmaninoff. Plebeian tastes, I guess.)

In politics, it's similar. Cheney/Bush make my skin crawl. :evilgrin:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:14 PM
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25. We on a lot of the same pages, by which I mean we share several
key favorites It was NOT a reference to the Foley scandal.

You mention Stern. I had the briefest of corresopndence with Stern on the documentary "Isaac Stern in China," which was ostensibly about music but very much about politics -- well, social politics and how they affect Politics. Between Ma and Stern, it's real hard to find anything wrong with the universe.

The same skin affliction strikes me when I hear talented musicians perform, whether in the service of a political ideal or just to a coffee house full of aficionados on a rainy night.

The Baptists used to warn about the evils of dancing.

They got the power of music part right, but they were heading in the wrong direction on the conclusion!

I'll take your Bach and Rachmaninoff choices any day of the week. Beautiful stuff from both their pens. I have the Rachmaninoff 2nd piano concert (Entremont's recording) on this minute.

Loved your post. Thank you.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:38 PM
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16. I Met Him Once
he's a very gentle person, not to mention he works in a very liberal community and very gay community. All the gay guys in the orchestra were clamoring to get near him. That was a long time ago (the 80's) and I thought maybe he was gay. He lives in Massachusetts - he's got to be a dem IMO
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:41 PM
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17. I read an interview with him once and he seemed to avoid politics as a
subject. I don't know if he was avoided it because he wanted to speak on other things, or if he considers it bad form, or what.

Or it could have been just that one interviewer's vibe.

If straight or gay people liked to hear intensely beautiful music in the register of the cello, they would either one wish to be around Mr. Ma.

I've never met him. So I envy you that. I did get to hear a concert or two in my travels, and am the better for it.

He inhabits the work of music as much as "performs" the score. Just an amazing musician.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:32 PM
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27. "He inhabits the work of music ..." Indeed.
It's something the greats have in common, it seems. Petunia becomes his voice - an extension of himself. His expression of the music is compelling. It's not the result of mere mechanical manipulation of the instrument but something organic. It's what I like about Monty Alexander on the piano and Satchmo on the horn. Itzhak Perlman comes very close on the violin. Gerry Mulligan had it on the sax and Chuck Mangione (sometimes) had it on the flugelhorn. (His brother, Gap, sometimes had it on the keyboards.)
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:52 PM
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20. I used a piece by YoYoMa in a recent video
His Appalachian Journey was perfect to illustrate artist Chris Jordan's stunning work. (Chris was recently on Colbert's show.) Unfortunately, YouTube resolution doesn't do justice to Mr. Jordan's photography.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9FoGUjk880
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 12:59 PM
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22. 'Appreciate the link. Politics as art and art as politics is one of those
special teeter-totters I love.

A lot of artists have drawn fire for opposing political regimes or policies. Some have defied the system and some were punished for doing so.

Others found a way to cooperative/survive in the face of grave threats to their families.

Some, defiant to the end, were blacklisted or hauled off in train cars to eventual death.

A lot of what artists write or paint etc. far outlives the politics of an era. That is sort of a secret artists and their followers have over established politicians. The great secret of power isn't to wield it from 10 Downing Street or 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, but to sublimate ideas in a painting or a piece of music or a poem or novel etc.

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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:24 PM
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26. Whatever he is, his music is divine.
Richard Wagner was a right wing, bigoted, sexist clout, which is why Hitler loved him. I still love his music in spite of his politics. I think we need to think of Yo Yo Ma in the same way. Of course it would be better if he were a liberal.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:10 PM
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29. Hi, Cleita. Happy Sunday afternoon here in the last part of October.
It would be interesting to hear a really in-depth interview with Ma. Ideally, Bill Moyers would do the interview. We'd get a sense of his personal politics, I think, with Moyers.

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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 01:33 PM
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28. My mother is a yellow dog dem
and I call her Yo Yo Ma! (It's a Philly thing)
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 02:12 PM
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30. No, but I like his version of Bach's cello suites.
Though, I still prefer the overly romantic Pablo Casals. ;)



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 09:33 PM
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31. Pablo was a bit schmaltzy on the baroque.
Yo-yo is astonishingly expressive but seems to adhere to the structure. Yo-yo's Bach is (imho) perfect.

Caveat: I have no formal music training and can't even play the tambourine. I listen.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:06 PM
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32. Yeah, but it's a little too perfect.
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 10:07 PM by Swamp Rat
:D

I totally agree about Casals, but lately I have felt rather nostalgic for that style. I also stayed up every night this week watching an A&E documentary on the French Impressionists... sometimes I think I was born in the wrong century and the wrong country. I wish I was at the World's Fair in Paris right now... in 1889. :D

I have a couple of degrees in classical music performance, and have transcribed many a Bach suite and performed them. Nevertheless, your listener's ear may be as sophisticated at mine, Yo Yo's, André Previn's... whomever... maybe even more.

One of my favorite book recommendations is Aaron Copland's "What to Listen for in Music." That book is for everyone. :)

http://www.amazon.com/What-Listen-Music-Aaron-Copland/dp/0451628802

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:38 PM
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33. Ohhhh....the French Impressionists!!
Edited on Sun Oct-21-07 10:42 PM by TahitiNut
I worked on the outskirts of Paris for 3-4 months in the late 70s. One of my most cherished experiences (of many) was visiting the Jeu de'Paume in the Tuileries - before the impressionists were moved to the Musee d'Orsay. Breathtaking! (Quite literally.) It made me glad I had sight. The light, the color - enough to cure clinical depression.

Caveat: I can't even draw flies.

Thank you for the recommendation, Swampy ... I've placed it in my Wish List for my next "SuperSaver" order.

My grandfather (a Norwegian immigrant farmboy cum skilled toolmaker with a 4th grade education and a passion for Edvard Grieg) turned me on to classical music (probably) before I could walk. Despite his lack of formal education, he was in many ways the smartest man I've ever known - and definitely the hardest working. During the Depression, his love for music compelled him to fabricate his own violin - cutting and planing the carefully-selected woods, soaking and shaping them, baking them in my grandmother's oven, gluing it together, etc. - and proceed to teach himself to play. He could afford neither a violin nor lessons. He could barely afford the strings - with 5 children to feed. He actually became quite good - better than any high school student I'd heard.

On Sunday afternoons, in particualr, he'd listen with rapt attention to his collection of 78's - all the greats (mostly on the RCA Victor red labels) - alerting me to pay attention to some key parts he liked.

When I listen ... I think of him.


Whenever I open a milk carton, I also think of him. He was, for a while, the sole skilled toolmaker able to perform the key, critical part of the work that made the machines first produced by Ex-Cello (patented) that, at the dairy, filled those paper/cardboard containers (almost the only kind we see these days) that form the pouring spout when the flaps are spread. For many years, every single one of those milk containers, anywhere in the world, was certain to have my grandfather's work in their origins.

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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:54 PM
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34. Wonderful story.
My grandfather, too, encouraged my interest in music. He was a writer living in Manhattan (colleague of Bertrand Russell in the 1930s peace movement), and I visited him a few times when I was very young. The moment I knew I was going to be a musician occurred when I was 4 yrs old, when my grandfather took me to Lincoln Center to see Bernstein conduct the New York Symphony Orchestra in Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring." When I heard the opening bassoon solo, something came over me, almost like a hallucinogenic experience. I knew then I was a musician. Unfortunately a drunk driver ended my concert career 10 years ago, just after I won a regional music competition and graduated from graduate school. :( So now, I just play percussion with my samba band, performing mostly during Mardi Gras. :)

Now, I have gone back to school, but this time to study geographic information science and remote sensing.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 10:56 PM
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35. I saw that,too. And the rational brain shut down
and that other brain soaked it all in. It was wonderful.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-21-07 11:05 PM
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37. I really wish we were in the Le Select café right now, 99 blvd Montparnasse


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