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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:57 PM
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Katrina is SO yesterday
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 09:58 PM by knowbody0
forgetaboutit???

How can this SOTU not include our brothers and sisters so betrayed and violated?
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:59 PM
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1. Too much of an embarassment to the Republic party.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 09:59 PM
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2. If he had to single out every person ...
... he has betrayed and violated, the SOTU speech would last for months, not an hour.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:11 PM
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:19 PM
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4. that's downright nasty
what are you doing on DU?
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cjheap Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:23 PM
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5. Truth Hurts
How dare you question me? Have you personally dealt with the problems in NO or Houston?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:26 PM
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951-Riverside Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:30 PM
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21. Re: "How dare you question me?"
If you don't like being questioned about your typical "angry white male" views don't post here.

Have you personally dealt with the problems in NO or Houston?


Have you?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:01 AM
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33. Problem solved.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:24 PM
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6. Oh how nice....
The old "the people were lazy excuse." How insightful.

Enjoy your stay.

Blue
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:33 PM
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:52 PM
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10. Maybe they can't find a job because our economy is still shitty..
I mean damn, people here in Michigan can't find jobs how are you going to expect a bunch of displaced people to find one? BTW do you have $100,000+ to be able to build a home? How do you expect a family who, after working so hard all of their lives (and yes there are some who do WORK) and losing a house that may have 1 or more mortgages on it to be able to "pick themselves up from their bootstraps" and put their lives back together?

Blue
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:17 PM
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16. there are jobs, there is no housing, plus there are health and age problems
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:17 PM by pitohui
also what the humble visitor of the five posts fails to acknowledge is that many of the folks still in houston are unable to work for reasons of age and health, many of these posters are older women who are most certainly NOT driving up the crime rate in houston NOR are they ever going to be able to work, the storm had a disproportionate effect on the old, who can never again earn money to replace homes that were utterly destroyed

think about this, you are sixty, from a very poor minority, your only property of value a house that cost you $8,000 40 years ago

even if you get the $8,000 you can never again get a house, you can't work because of your age and lack of opportunities, health, and education, you are just fucked

there are indeed many jobs, however, these are jobs that are very much skewed toward the very young, the very strong, the male -- the construction jobs, the jobs where you have to be able to stand on your feet all day

the post storm environment just doesn't offer much for women, especially for older widowed or divorced or abandoned women in poor health

it's unrealistic to expect these women to hop up and take the $20 an hour construction job, that is not going to happen for the 62 year old lady with diabetes who can't stand!

every time we have a murder committed here by a texan, and there have been many since katrina, nobody says, huh, those texans, they have come here to take advantage of us, but everytime there's a murder in houston, somebody yells that a person from louisiana did it

i'm sick of it and i'm calling b.s. -- at least one of the most infamous houston cases it was already proven that the girl made it up that it was a new orleans boy to protect the local boys who actually raped her
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:20 PM
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17. Thanks for articulating what I was trying to say...
I couldn't get it out of my head, lol!!!

I didn't factor in all of the older folks that are no longer able to work. NO is just a mess and I hope people will still keep it in the forefront of their minds because this administration sure isn't.

Blue
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:24 PM
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18. the storm really struck out at the old
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 11:24 PM by pitohui
many of our younger people left in the 80s and the 90s because there were no opportunities here for people who educate themselves

it just isn't that kind of town since the oil industry consolidated its headquarters in the 80s, we do the gritty work, the port, the industry, the refining, but the white gloves stuff has been done in houston for years
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:30 PM
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22. I personally know of some Katrina evacuees that were able to
buy and build homes in Sienna Plantation. I don't hear them bitching about handouts.

Such a broad brush you have there. :eyes:

Oh and btw, welcome to DU! Not!
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:28 PM
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8. bahahahahah
Welcome to DU! :eyes:
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:27 PM
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19. You're pathetic.
Don't you have anything better to do than come here and lie for no apparent reason other than to stroke yourself by showing your friends how funny you are because you piss a few DU'ers off? You and I both know this is probably just one of a dozen usernames you have for that purpose.

Making other people laugh must be pretty important to you for you to be so insensitive as to lie about people who have sufferered. Good luck in your life and with your hilarious little comedy routines here throughout the future. Ha ha ha.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:19 AM
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24. Yeah they're all lazy scum, including the ones who died, didn't help themselves, eh? Best forgotten,
Edited on Wed Jan-24-07 12:19 AM by Mayberry Machiavelli
eh?

I'm so GLAD shrub didn't mention this shameful chapter in his, and America's history! Let's forget about it and speak no more of it!
:eyes:

:sarcasm:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 AM
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26. Worked in NO and Baton Rouge?
Sure you did.

:eyes:

I think you found the wrong forum, pal.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:39 AM
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29. They just don't TRY very hard anymore, do they?
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:41 AM
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30. Guess they're not pulling themselves up by their bootstraps anymore.
Especially if their bootstraps floated away.


Or if they're Black, as hinted. Remember, Black people "loot" while white people "find." :eyes:

Gotta love people in a black and white world.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:52 AM
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32. No, the "They don't try"/Waldo reference was with respect to the poster, not the Katrina victims.
Never mind, LOL.
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:48 AM
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31. Did you forget the sarcasm smilie, or are you on the wrong forum?
This is Democratic Underground. Maybe you were looking for another website?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 10:56 PM
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11. Edwards talked about it a bit on MSNBC after the speech.
Saying Bush said he was going to really help NOLA out, but in fact Bush had zero follow-through.


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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:00 PM
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12. And Bush has no intention to...
He doesn't care about that place. Everything he says is all lip service.

Blue
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:00 PM
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13. not for the people who have no homes, to go back too.
a vibrant beautiful city, gone, suicide and murder is up, and this idiot in the WH does not give a shit, New Orleans is our Iraq right here, all those people killed for what because we have a government who did nothing, cut funds for the levees, is this anyway to help rebuild one of most versatile and vibrant states. Kanye West said it best, George Bush doesn't like black people.
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BlueStorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:09 PM
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14. Agreed...
I have never been to New Orleans but my best friend has, just before Hurricane Katrina hit. She said it is a very busy city and there is alot of culture there. She said the people there are the most hospitable and kindest people she has ever met.

She told me that she was sad of what happened and is mad at the Bush government that they didn't help. Like they ever were going to.

I'll bet that if there was a hurricane coming at Grand Rapids everyone in every echelon of the government would be on their feet and getting ready to help.

I wonder if NO will ever get back to what it was?

Blue
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:13 PM
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15. Incredible there was no mention of Katrina
A year-and-a-half after New Orleans is nearly destroyed and the Gulf Coast is left in tatters, and not even a mention from the president in a major speech. Not even lip service. Nothing. That's how much he "cares."

The attitude of criminal neglect continues, and believe me, his not mentioning Katrina is code word for "BushCo don't care ... suck it up."

Can you imagine if hypothetically a year-and-half after 9/11 BushCo made a "state of the union" speech and didn't mention New York City? I can't.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:16 AM
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23. it truly ripped my sack to read the above post
blaming the displaced victims. many of them are residents who never in their life ventured out of the ninth ward, for generations dating back to slavery. Can you imagine what it feels like to be in freakin texas?
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aaronbees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:27 AM
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25. Yep, has to be difficult...
To be ripped out of the home where generations have raised families in such a unique and great culture and then land elsewhere. I'm so tired of the moralistic demagoguery with which the people of NOLA are treated by people who think it's a piece of cake to restart life.
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mentalsolstice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 11:28 PM
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20. Redistricting at it's best!
My heart is so broken! My husband was born and bred in NOLA. We usually visited 1-2 times per year. But we haven't been since Katrina...he's too afraid. Not only did we visit NOLA regularly, we also visited Biloxi (Beau Rivage Casino & Resort), and Pass Christian. These were small, beautiful, old historic communities that were totally wiped out.

I get sick at my stomach every I think about it. I want to go back so bad, but I understand my husband's fear.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 AM
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27. I posted this in the Videos Forum
but it hasn't gotten much attention.

'Katrina-The Promise"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfiHqgwY0jA


It's a great video.
The song was written and sung by an 11 year old girl.

( it stalls a bit a first, but then smooths out)
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efhmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 12:36 AM
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28. Helped with the people as they came off the bus in Houston, wet and
dirty and hungry and tired and still so full of gratitude and kindness. Went to NO a year after K and saw the houses that still are abandoned and talked to the people who are still trying to reclaim their communities. I saw good, fun-loving, loyal people who are battered but love their city and want it back. They are, for the most part, not bitter but they are getting sooo tired and they still need our help. It will never come from this government of heartless scum so those of us who really love and care for our neighbors need to do the job.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-24-07 11:47 AM
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34. kick. (n/t)
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