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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:30 AM
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Suuuuuprise, Suuuuuuprise! Bush to veto new SCHIP bill


WASHINGTON (AP) The White House says President Bush will veto the House's revised effort to expand a children's health program if the legislation reaches his desk.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:32 AM
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1. It would take money from the invasion and occupation of two countries, after all
And very likely interfere with his plans to invade Iran just in time for a war boost in the 2008 election.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:37 AM
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4. Would invading Iran give a war boost?
I would think it would remind people that Republicans are blood thirsty maniacs.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:34 AM
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2. Is that Mike Huckabee?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:35 AM
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10. LOL!
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:36 AM
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3. good--this is the new version the republicans can "accept"
we`ll see how many republicans vote against the override...we`ll see how many are going to decide their fate next year
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:38 AM
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5. I really hate that fucker. n/t
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:39 AM
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6. Link?
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 10:50 AM
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7. I don't know if they have one up yet
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:25 AM
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8. Let him...then the democrats should send it again and again
like they should send the funding bill.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:33 AM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:52 PM
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11. "democrats on the Hill are more interested in flaming the executive branch"
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 03:53 PM by ProSense
No you wait a second: The bill passed the Senate with 67 votes, there are not 67 Democrats in the Senate.

It appears your argument ("democrats on the Hill are more interested in flaming the executive branch") is another hissy fit to support Bush's despicable veto.
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CT_Progressive Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 03:57 PM
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12. The real question is, "Why does Bush hate children?"
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:03 PM
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13. Have you priced health insurance
for a family? If the children have anything less than perfect health it is unaffordable for a family making $50,000 or even the mythological SHIP family making $80,000.

If you have a sick child who needs treatment and a decent job without insurance the government now requires you quit your job to insure your child. It's totally fucked up, typical Republican bullshit to increase the number of desperately poor in the nation. In fact, increasing poverty is the only successful policy endeavor.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:50 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:57 PM
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23. "If that's too harsh of a reality, get a DIFFERENT job." Is that you Dick? If not,
what planet are you on?
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:59 PM
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24. You mean it is difficult to pack up and move to another state?
I mean, if you're the hypothetical family of 4 that makes $50k a year, there is a good chance you own a home.

The housing market isn't bad or anything. Houses are sooo easy to sell!

:rofl:
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:08 PM
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28. Those programs ARE SCHIP
Middle class families are over income. That is the basis, the issue, at hand. Good God.

You are blessed to have healthy children or corporate insurance. In in the real world many families aren't so advantaged. It would be tragic if you had to become self employed and find insurance in the "free market."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:29 PM
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:13 PM
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16. "Flaming the Executive Branch!
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 04:14 PM by vpilot
Well we certainly can't have that, you know, considering how fiscal conservative and considerate of the tax payers money they are and have been. What was that estimated cost of that Iraq thingy gonna be again, two trillion?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:14 PM
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17. How compassionately conservative of you and YOUR pResident.
:eyes:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:53 PM
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:00 PM
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25. Why not, we taxpayers pay for socialized health care for our congresscritters
It's good enough for them but not for us all? I suppose you don't have a problem paying for their socialized health care, now do you? Like I said, how compassionately conservative of you. Have a nice day.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:26 PM
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26. Hypocrisy is not a healthy lifestyle, but tax payers are paying the bill for a number of hypocrites:
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 05:27 PM by ProSense

McConnell SCHIP stance criticized

OPPOSES EXPANDING TAXPAYER-SUBSIDIZED CARE, WHICH HE HAS

By John Cheves
JCHEVES@HERALD-LEADER.COM
Related Content

<...>

But as a U.S. senator, McConnell gets government-run, taxpayer-subsidized insurance through the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program, including free outpatient treatment by doctors at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Md., and Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington. When McConnell needed triple bypass heart surgery in 2003, he checked into the Naval Medical Center and was treated by the hospital's clinical chief of cardiothoracic surgery.

"Sen. McConnell's objection to this legislation gives disingenuousness a bad name," said Ron Pollack, executive director of Families USA, a non-profit, non-partisan advocacy group that is lobbying for SCHIP expansion.

<...>

McConnell voted for SCHIP when it was created in 1997, Stewart wrote. Although he opposes the expansion of SCHIP passed by Congress and vetoed by Bush, he wants poor children to have health care, and he supports other legislation that would make insurance coverage more accessible, Stewart wrote.

Although members of Congress enjoy some exclusive health care perks, the Federal Employee Health Benefit Program is open to all federal workers. Run by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management, it uses the government's muscle as a huge employer to obtain lower group coverage rates from a choice of private insurers -- much as many states' SCHIP programs operate, Pollack said.

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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 08:12 PM
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29. If you'll pay mine.
That's what insurance is all about.
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:57 PM
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22. Welcome to DU!
Enjoy your stay.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 05:57 PM
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27. Are these posters trotted out to raise site traffic?
I'm starting to think it's true. And my post will get deleted, and the Dem basher will stay.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:52 PM
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31. I am not sure if he allowed a marginal increase in funding or not
The $30 billion he proposed is more than the $25 billion it has cost for the last five years, but it is not enough to fund the program at the same level.

It also does not increase debt because it comes tied to an increase in taxes on cigarettes.
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:07 PM
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14. Doesn't matter. S-CHIP expansion will pass before 2008.
Edited on Thu Oct-25-07 04:08 PM by Basileus Basileon
If we don't override it this time, we'll override it the next. A plurality of Republicans support expansion of S-CHIP, as do 2/3 of Indies. Given the weak state the GOP is in going towards 2008, this will pass. Unlike war funding (where everyone agrees we need to get out but nobody can agree how fast to do it), there is a clear and unmistakable public mandate with this issue. The Republicans may be hard-headed, but only Bush (and other retiring Republicans) can afford to be suicidal.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:10 PM
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15. As they say,
from your keyboard to God's monitor.

Welcome to DU!
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:15 PM
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18. some right wing nut called in on c-span
said there was nothing in the contitution that would allow SCHIP ....

and im thinking....

i musta missed the part that lets us wage pre-emptive wars ;)
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 04:54 PM
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21. moot point they couldn't even pass it in the house....ineffective congress
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-25-07 11:53 PM
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32. Durp durp durrrrrp!
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