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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:51 AM
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Poll question: Could Joe Scarborough be Waterboarded into admitting that he murdered this woman?
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 06:53 AM by NNN0LHI
http://www.americanpolitics.com/20010808Klausutis.html

Special Report

A Death in the Congressman's Office

Does Anybody in the Press Care About Lori Klausutis?


By Denis Wright and Chris George

August 8, 2001 (APJP)

Once upon a time, the phrase "investigative reporter" actually meant something. It usually involved hard work, possibly even mentation. Now, it seems, they just make stuff up. Especially on the Fox News Channel, where an uninitiated viewer could easily think she/he had tuned in Comedy Central. It's "Chandra-Chandra-Chandra" with the occasional "Condit is just like Clinton" thrown in. Given our media's 24/7 obsession with the Gary Condit "scandal", you might assume that there is a real dearth of hard news to pursue.

In reality, there is indeed a news story percolating out there. The story bears remarkable and ironic similarities to the Condit/Levy story. Both involve Congressmen, rumors of infidelity, and the fate of a younger female subordinate. The details are so similar as to remind one of two alternate universes. The difference between the two stories? First, in the Klausutis case as not in the Levy case, there is a real body, very dead. Second, the Klausutis case involves a Republican.

The story had a brief flutter in the Northwest Florida press, which ran a few very short stories on Lori's death. With the exception of the Northwest Florida Daily News, they were of the "Aw-what-a-shame/ nothing-to-see-here-move-along-now-folks" variety. But nationally, this mysterious death earned a mere one paragraph mention in The Washington Post's NATION IN BRIEF column:

"FORT WALTON BEACH, FL. - Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old office worker for Rep. Joe Scarborough (R-Fl), was found dead in the congressman's district office. Police said preliminary findings from the medical examiner's office showed no foul play or any outward indication of suicide."

Unbelievably, that was it. The story was simply dropped. A young female employee of one of Florida's Congressmen had died unexpectedly in the Congressman's office. There were no witnesses to her death and the cause of death was not apparent. Klausutis' boss, Joe Scarborough had recently resigned from Congress prematurely and unexpectedly, amid rumors about his marital fidelity and soon after a divorce. He had also abruptly resigned as publisher of the Independent Florida Sun, claiming that resigning from Congress and as publisher was necessary to spend more time with his sons.

Such circumstances make one pause. Sick to death of the clear bias of the corporate owned media, and suspicious of the odd nature of this death, we began to dig for answers. The more information we discovered, the more unlikely, and the more newsworthy the story became
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:55 AM
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1. They found Chandra Levy's body in Rock Creek Park. They're pretty sure
they know who killed her; they can't prove it, though. It was a nutty guy who was attacking women wearing walkmans, he was in jail at the time they found the skeletal remains.

Condit was an adulterous 'fool getting old and needing to feel young' jerk, but not a murderer.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:01 AM
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2. I dunno - but LET'S TRY!!

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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:03 AM
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3. So this beast won't die, will it? Well, it says more about you than
about this celebrity are helping to create. What side are you on, anyway? It ain't mine.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:07 AM
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6. Defending someone who supports torture says more about you than you realize
What side are you on, anyway?

Don
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:54 AM
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8. You're the one treating the subject as a joke. I stand for principle
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 07:55 AM by Fredda Weinberg
There's no substance to the allegation against this worthless ex-congress critter and this thread constitutes promotion. So I object for practical as well as principled reasons.

My side is well documented and I have withstood popular sentiment while the original "investigation" played out to its farcical end. In retrospect, you have to wonder if operatives were acting in their personal interests all along, but I won't stoop to that level of cynicism. Let's just say the report you cite is the best face on an amateurish attempt to copy Rovian tactics and thus should be shamefully avoided.

As for anyone's view on torture, it is certainly not partisan - both parties have to deal with the issue. I would prefer that HRC was responsible and have worked for that result.

If you were actually funny, I suppose I could go along with a good joke about simulated drowning ... heck, I've got a story about Jones beach ... nah, never mind - you ain't worth the keystrokes.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:18 AM
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10. Yea, you stand for principle
Whatever you say.

Don
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:21 AM
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11. No substance because YOU say?
Allllllllllllllrighty then.... :eyes:
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:35 AM
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13. No substance because the worthless ex-congress critter now his own tv show
Duh
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:47 AM
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15. So if you get a tv show that negates any criminal acts you have committed?
Huh?
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:15 AM
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18. Negates? Dude, there was no evidence to begin with
You're beating a very dead horse.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:30 AM
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19. So everything was hunk- dorry?
A woman in perfect health just drops dead in the killer's office...and that's it?

Wow....
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 09:42 AM
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20. Found by a nurse ... go figure. Her family accepts the tragedy.
Who are you to say otherwise?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:05 AM
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21. Yeah...because perfectly healthy women drop dead all the time right?
...especially the ones that are rumoured to be having affairs with their congress-person bosses who suddenly quits his position of power to 'spend more time with his family'....

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:11 AM
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22. Keep your rumors straight. There were none regarding Mrs Klausutis
She was a married woman and her husband doesn't support this crap either. And apparently, you don't know the worst about this worthless ex-congress critter and I won't enlighten you.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:25 AM
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23. Gee thanks....
...:eyes:
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 10:48 AM
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24. After thinking it over I would like to apologize for being so snarky in the above posts
I should know better.

Take care and see you later.

Don
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:17 PM
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25. Sorry to see this so late, but thank you and nothing personal
I assure you and bid you peace.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:05 AM
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4. I've ALWAYS had a hunch he was involved
and Florida officials covered it up.

It would certainly seem to be in character for the smarmy Scarborough and consistent with the sorts of deals that happen down there.

This above and beyond the corporate media ignoring the story.
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Mist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:06 AM
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5. The case should be re-opened; there's no statute of limitations on murder. And it
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 07:09 AM by lulu in NC
seems Scarborough was the first to use the excuse about spending more time with his family.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:29 AM
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7. Please..
Everyone knows that waterboading is no worse than the a fraternity prank. ><
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:04 AM
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9. I'm afraid you stumbled upon truth. My father witnessed torture
Heck, he wished he'd participated, but his whole family was dead and all that jazz ...

It wasn't about getting information - the act was pure and simple domination. The victor over the loser, no matter what it took to break the hapless victim. More often innocent than not, in the wake of violence there's always more ... and the species hasn't broken the cycle yet.

Fraternities are the remnants of a violent past and unfortunately, demonstrate the point precisely. They are designed to prepare soldiers, desensitized to suffering ... just like my father the war victim. The more they succeed, the more society suffers.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:28 AM
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12. Torture doesn't work.
But if HE thinks it does, we might as well try...
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:37 AM
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14. I'm not answering your poll about waterboarding...but re-examining the the death of Lori
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 08:39 AM by KoKo01
Klausutis is long overdue, imho. Why did Scarborough resign from the House, and as publisher of a newspaper and then when the news about Klausutis death dies down he suddenly gets one hour show on MSNBC with no entertainment experience. Now, he gets promoted a three hour morning show of his own to replace Don Imus on the infamously inbred, nepotistic MSNBC? How does he go from being a House Rep to an entertainer? Was there payback for something? And, what about Lori being involved in the Florida recount and her PhD husband working for a Florida Military base as a munitions analyst?
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:24 PM
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27. what's wrong with you?
don't you worship at the throne of coincidence?

it's all perfectly logical, including the employment of a thoroughly corrupt, incompetent-at-best, medical examiner

how convenient
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:49 AM
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16. Don, your poll makes two good points, both having to do with hypocrisy.
1. Joe Scarborough's hypocrisy vis-a-vis water-boarding.

2. Joe Scarborough's hypocrisy vis-a-vis Lori Klausutis' death.

I love twofers!

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Lilith Velkor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 08:57 AM
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17. Yes, whether he did it or not
Add some tazing to the mix and you can get him to admit he mailed the anthrax, even if he didn't.

Torture doesn't prove shit.
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Gabi Hayes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 02:20 PM
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26. funny....while I was readng the title of this thread, I was thinking....
I should email this to Denis Wright. he's a DU member

didn't realize that is was his article that would be the basis

is that a good example of irony?

or what?
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