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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:24 PM
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Stop bombing us, Afghanistan president tells U.S.
http://feeds.bignewsnetwork.com/?sid=294482

The president of Afghanistan is demanding the U.S. curtail its air strikes, which he says are killing too many civilians.

In a hard-hitting interview with 60 Minutes, which airs this Sunday, President Hamid Karzai, says he has conveyed his demand to U.S. President George W. Bush privately.

"The United States and the Coalition Forces are not killing civilians deliberately, the United States is here to help the Afghan people," Karzai says in the interview. "The Afghan people understand that mistakes are made. But five years on, six years on, definitely, very clearly, they cannot comprehend as to why there is still a need for air power."

Asked by 60 Minutes' Scott Pelley if he wants a rollback of the air strikes, Karzai replies, "Absolutely. Oh, yes, in clear words and I want to repeat that, tthere are alternatives to the use of air force and I will speak for it again through your media."
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Iraq's Prez and Afghanistan Prez are getting fed up
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:26 PM
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1. Wow... when did Karzai get a conscience?
:shrug:
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:26 PM
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2. Hmm ... C-Span was covering a speech by ANOTHER Afghan leader today
Leader of another party in Afghanistan -- wonder if "the powers that be" are tiring of Karzai and want to install a new guy there.

I just thought it odd because the only Afghan I've seen on C-Span in the past few years has been Karzai (or maybe the Information Minister Mohammed Mohammed or whatever his name was). This guy looked well-groomed, polished -- like (again) he was out of central casting for a leading role in Afghanistan. And now this ... Karzai getting "uppity." ????
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:31 PM
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3. If Iraq's Prez and Afghanistan Prez weren't US puppets they would have told us to leave long ago
Can't be too much of a president when they have to stay holed up behind blast proof barriers and depend on US bodyguards to keep them alive.

They both meet the classic definition of puppets.

Don
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:39 PM
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4. "But five years on, six years on...
...definitely, very clearly, they cannot comprehend as to why there is still a need for air power."

Ummm... because there's big profits in blowing up very expensive bombs in the desert? A little collateral damage never bothered Raytheon, doesn't Hamid know that?

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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 07:23 PM
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9. You are probably correct there. No wars=no military industrial complex.
Colin Powell warned of the current emergence of the terrorism industrial complex, saying that its not good to start an industry that only survives if we are in fear or being attacked. This is why I don't like it when I hear certain candidates saying the words terror, terrorist or terrorism in every speech. Its not all but there are a few of our Democrats that spew those words way too much. Hell, Clinton had a fund raiser dinner that involved people from the industry and other officials that appropriate money for those areas. Not good when our representatives want to support that kind of industry.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:42 PM
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5. That there's still a need for airpower means that we've pretty much failed
Edited on Fri Oct-26-07 05:42 PM by wienerdoggie
in our efforts there. That war should have been fucking WON by now--too bad we've devoted little attention and resources towards it, compared to Iraq--and soon, Iran. War on three fronts, with no draft! Let's see how this works out.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 05:43 PM
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6. Iraq also flexed its sovereignty by saying multinational forces go home and it's our oil.
Endgame for Iraqi Oil?

On September 29th, like a landlord serving notice, the government of Iraq announced that the next annual renewal of the United Nations Security Council mandate for a multinational force in Iraq—the only legal basis for a continuation of the American occupation—will be the last. That was, it seems, the first shoe to fall. The second may be an announcement terminating the little-noticed, but crucial companion Security Council mandate governing the disposition of Iraq's oil revenues.


Looks like Bush has failed in his war for oil.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:07 PM
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7. Obama said that back in August
and was roundly criticized for it. Consistently right on matters of war and foreign policy - yet anti-war Democrats aren't supporting him. :crazy:

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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-26-07 06:23 PM
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8. When your oil exec puppet is telling you this
you know things are bad.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 01:31 AM
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10. .
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-27-07 03:05 AM
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11. The US decided to turn Afghanistan into a slaughterhouse 25 years ago.
Old habits, especially the bloodlust of corporatism and its chosen henchmen, are hard to break.

Brzezinski gets credit for beginning the mass murder of the people of Afghanistan in the name of corporate imperialism, and for turning insane jihadis into a military organization:

From http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Zbigniew_Brzezinski


Q: When the Soviets justified their intervention by asserting that they intended to fight against a secret involvement of the United States in Afghanistan, people didn't believe them. However, there was a basis of truth. You don't regret anything today?

Brzezinski: Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea. It had the effect of drawing the Russians into the Afghan trap and you want me to regret it? The day that the Soviets officially crossed the border, I wrote to President Carter: We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war. Indeed, for almost 10 years, Moscow had to carry on a war unsupportable by the government, a conflict that brought about the demoralization and finally the breakup of the Soviet empire.

Q: And neither do you regret having supported the Islamic , having given arms and advice to future terrorists?

Brzezinski: What is most important to the history of the world? The Taliban or the collapse of the Soviet empire? Some stirred-up Moslems or the liberation of Central Europe and the end of the cold war?
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