Barak Obama can kiss my lesbian butt....

Part of the reason that we have had a faith outreach in our campaigns is precisely because I don’t think the LGBT community or the Democratic Party is served by being hermetically sealed from the faith community and not in dialogue with a substantial portion of the electorate, even though we may disagree with them.

http://advocate.com/news_detail_ektid50021.asp

Does he not realize that I CAN'T live my life 'hermetically sealed' from the faith community? Jesus Christ, I'm under assault from them daily!

This faith community that I'm accused of being hermetically sealed from has seen to it that I can't marry, can't join the military, can't adopt children in some states, and can't expect federal protection from discrimination in employment or housing.

They also accuse me in broad strokes of being deviant, a pedophile, compare my relationship to beastiality and of recruiting children.

How he thinks I can be 'hermetically sealed' from people who have had a bizarre and tragic influence on my life is just goddamn PATRONIZING and demeaning. And to think I gave money to this oaf!

Civil Rights are not negotiable IMO

While all pandering repulses me, pandering to bigots is utterly unacceptable.

I do not approve, and he can kiss my hetero butt.

Church/State/Separate

Now, just how hard is that to understand?

We all know how that one worked out for them. It isn't any different here. There are huge numbers of ministers in various faith traditions that are supportive of LGBT rights--why not hook up with that faith community?

Very well said. Barack Obama is a fucking idiot and a sellout. I've long had a funny foreboding about his evangelical outreach, but I never - never - could have imagined that he would do this. Add the social security bullshit into the mix and it's clear that he neither knows what he's doing nor what he's talking about. A total lightweight, who is dishonest, pandering and untrustworthy. How in god's name did he fool so many people?

is that I see the possibility that this sort of bullshit will no longer be considered acceptable within the democratic party. And you're right that message is patronizing and demeaning. There's no excuse for pandering to bigots- religiously inspired or not.

These people are fundamentally opposed to the notion of homosexuality. How do you talk with someone who considers your lifestyle to be an "abomination to God"?

Obama did not choose that route.

but something that you "chose" and one which you can somehow "un-choose" anytime you want, but won't because you are perverted, recalcitrant and stubborn.

I was made an honorary lesbian at an October campfire in New Hampshire a few years back. It mighta been an 'ornery' lesbian, though... we were pretty lit.

but I do respect and honor your sentiment.

the so-called "faith community" pushes people away with their constant hate-filled and hate-based attacks - wanting to deny the LGBT community equal rights.

You can't dialogue with people who nurture that kind of hate...because they don't want dialogue.

It's the haters in that "faith community" that want a "hermetically sealed" world that ostracizes and oppresses the LGBT community...and they work to keep it that way with their constant ignorant ramblings about "cures" and a "homosexual agenda"... and with their politically active discrimination

is he really saying the only connection with the "faith community" has to involve homophobia?

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and other Aryan groups who think Mr.Obama is inferior to them? We are all kindred spirits are we not? Even those groups that think you are less than human because of what and who you are should not be excluded according to Mr. Obama.


EDIT TO ADD THE :sarcasm:



Go sit in on a KKK meeting before you call out the GLBT's who have turned their back on you.

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Very well said, Neecy.

This is the best analysis I've seen:

"Politicians do two things better than anything else. The first is they are masters at saying whatever it takes to get elected. The second is they obsessively crunch numbers; and the only number that counts is the number of votes they can get to put them over the top. These two crass and cynical talents of politicians aren't mutually exclusive. Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama is a fast study of a well-meaning politician that's cultivating those talents."

"Put the words black, evangelical, and voter together and it translates out to thousands of potential voters ripe for an overt or subtle tap of anti-gay sentiment. South Carolina is the first big state primary, and blacks make up nearly fifty percent of Democratic voters in the state. A good chunk of them are evangelical leaning. Their votes can make or break Obama's national efforts. McClurkin can help, and help him in a big way. He's black, popular, and an outspoken evangelical. Obama can have it both ways with him. He can publicly denounce his views, which he has, while latching onto to his crowd-pulling coat tails."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/earl-ofari-hutchinson/why-barack-wont-dump-mcc_b_69810.html

You know, when it comes to gay issues this is the weakest crop of candidates we've had since 1976,

Hillary - I don't trust the "advice" she'd get from Bill. After all, he advised Kerry to come out against gay marriage, and cravenly signed DOMA when there was no political damage to him to veto it, even if it was a symbolic veto.

Obama - Enough said. Obama----->my lesbian butt

Richardson - unsure if being gay is a 'choice', then claimed not to understand the question.

Edwards - his entire family, including apparently the family dog, is for gay marriage but he isn't. Just as politically calculating as Obama. Still, I trust that the influence he'll get from his family will be mainly positive, unlike Hillary, so now I'm leaning Edwards.

--which EVERY SINGLE DEM CANDIDATE felt it was in his/her interest to put in an appearance? That by itself is a big change.

and I'm from a country that already HAS gay marriage (in all but name).

Very disappointing. Ah well, he's got four years to learn better.

There is actually something enlightened about what he is saying. You'll never get to them by cutting them out of your dialogue.

Just like Bush will never make progress with Iran, or North Korea, without talking with them.

He has always hit me as a (pardon the expression) closet Conservative on many levels. His outreach to the right is shameful. I hope we aren't left with Obama and a Repug to choose from. We can do better.

a flag for me and when he voted in Committee to confirm Rice, I had already had it with him.

He's working the numbers. He thinks (rightly so) that there are more people who believe in the big man in the sky than there are people in the GBLT community. But it's nice to know he's more than willing to sell out a portion of our citizenry for a few votes. Not that I was going to vote for him anyway, it's just a good thing to know.

Civil rights are NOT negotiable!