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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:01 AM
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Anyone who thinks that politics ISN'T about compromise is a fool.
But don't take my word for it--browse Wikipedia, or a handy World Book, and find the most idealistic, straight-shooting politicians ever to grace the Democratic party. At some point, they gave the opposition a bit of wiggle room and/or backed down from their stated beliefs, no matter how slightly. That's how politics works, people--otherwise our government would come to a complete standstill.

Why do I bring this up? Because lately some Democratix VOTERS have seemed like they're trying to position themselves as being more pious than their elected counterparts. I'm talking about the people who would rather stay home than choose between Hillary and a GOP'er. You may think such behavior is noble or conscientious--it isn't. It's STUPID. How can you think your voice will be heard if you refuse to speak? If you don't like Hillary, fine--vote for Rudy or Fred in November; or, in the spirit of compromise, vote for Hillary. You could even go 3rd party--it's not unheard of. A GE ballot is like a menu at a New York diner--they won't always have your favorites, but what you see represents the best the kitchen has to offer. Choose a dish, or go hungry.

If you refuse to compromise your vote, and think you're beating the system by staying home, you're a moron--the system (otherwise known as Democracy) IS compromise.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:11 AM
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1. That's a pretty uncompromising statement...





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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:17 AM
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2. A Standstill Would Be an Improvement
compare to steadily going downhill into depravity....
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:18 AM
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3. If you refuse to compromise your vote,
and that is only your opinion, you just might be doing so because it is the only way you can live with yourself.

Many young voters may not know about compromise in politics, look what they have been used to.

Calling others morons and STUPID for not doing what you think they should be doing is a morons way and a STUPID way of handling situations.

Food, a necessary thing for life to continue, is not at all a good comparison for a vote.
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Bicoastal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:22 AM
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4. The only way you can LIVE with yourself?
So democracy is about putting your petty needs ahead of everyone elses? That doesn't sound terribly mature to me.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:49 AM
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6. Vote YOUR conscience.
Ever hear of that?

We are all free to cast our votes without abuse, no?

Peace is NOT a petty need.

Living wage is NOT a petty need.

Health care is NOT a petty need.

Bringing this country back to the people and away from corporate control is NOT a petty need.

Etcetera. Get it?

If a candidate does not fulfill those basic requirements then why vote for them? Those are not petty needs they are needs of the majority of this country and the world. SCOTUS will not be filled with people that will help this country if the POTUS, R or D, does not espouse those values.

I will not vote for a corporate hawk. Period.

Immature? Not in my view but then you are free to feel that way. Thankfully I do not have to listen or vote how you think I should. Name calling and character slamming will not get you what you want. Party endorsement of corporate war hawks will not encourage me to vote for them. Try putting someone up who will ensure this country moves back at least to where it was and you might get the votes. Try putting someone up who will move us closer to what we say we are and you will get the votes. Try putting someone up who is trustworthy and you might get the votes. See how that works? Country before party.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 08:27 AM
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5. Don't you just have to stop sometimes and ask for directions?
Instead of going down the road, and maybe going left, then right, then turn around, then turn back around, and go up the hill, but then half way up say no, then instead go around the hill, then tumble over the side for a few miles, maybe we should come to a complete standstill. Turn the engine off, just for a bit, figure out what the fuck we're doing, then get on the road again. Hell, we might figure out that the road is directionless. We might figure out that we'd rather walk than drive the car. Maybe it's time to take a break. We don't have to keep going just for the sake of it. That is, if "we the people" still have any control over anything.
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NavyDavy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:18 AM
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7. i agree with you some people will never get it....until the repukes
take everything from them and leave them crying hiding in a corner because they were to hard headed to see the forest for the trees.....
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:22 AM
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8. I'll compromise by voting for the most progressive anti-war candidate on the ballot.
Even if I have to write one in.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:33 AM
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9. Me too.
I will vote for a Democrat but it may not be the one on the ballot.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:35 AM
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10. Politics is about compromise, yes. Halting the slide into New Totalitarianism, to paraphrase Jon
Edited on Thu Nov-01-07 09:36 AM by tom_paine
Stewart "not so much".

And yes, in spite of that my vote is for the Democratic Nominee in 2008, even if it's Hillary.

But you don't compromise with criminals like the Royal Bushies and their Inner Circle. You prosecute them.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-01-07 09:37 AM
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11. the debate is how to get there. If Democrats give up 85% before they negotiate...
they got nowhere to go.

Compromise usually rewards the bigger asshole.
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