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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:05 PM
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Poll question: Fox "Conservative Daily Show" fails. Why can't conservatives understand humor and be funny? (POLL)
Watch and feel the douche-chills over Fox's lame new show. Conservatives can't be funny, and there must be a reason. What is it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIfaMwIFxU
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Marnieworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:09 PM
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1. Other
The Daily Show is funny because they point out when people are full of shit.

Fox News can't be funny because they are full of shit.

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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:09 PM
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2. That clip was unbearable. Hard to watch the whole thing.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:11 PM by mac56
Really, really pathetic.

To be funny, they'd have to be willing to poke fun at themselves like Jon and company do.

They can't. They're conservatives, and they're Fox.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:09 PM
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39. They forget the old addage:
there's truth in jest. As long as the thugs rely on lies and obfuscation of the truth, they will never be funny.
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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:10 PM
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3. Mean-spirited, without a doubt.
They give off the impression that anyone who disagrees with them must be destroyed.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:10 PM
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4. Do we know for a fact that the show is failing?
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:11 PM by Poiuyt
Have any numbers come in?

PS - I'm not disputing that the show isn't funny. I'm just wondering if anyone is watching. It still amazes me that there is an audience for Bill O'Reilly and Glenn Beck.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:57 PM
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34. I don't think it was ever aired
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:10 PM
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5. Other: Conservatives are too emotionally arrested and ego-invested
to be funny.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:11 PM
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6. I actually found some of it mildly humorous
No, really. I almost broke into a full smile at one point. But what drove me nuts was the fact that they had to use canned laughter, because an audience of nearly-smiling people doesn't exactly make for exciting television!

Other than that, though...okay, it was perfectly awful.

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Counciltucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:17 PM
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12. That's much higher praise than it deserves.
I watched two clips and almost found part of something funny.

Humor at liberals' expense can be funny. This show, however, isn't.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:57 PM
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43. Parts Mildly Funny exactly
With and open mind I found it mildly humorous. The effort to disparage Obama over pure belly laugh comedic material was apparent to me. I was open and awaiting a laugh but only mustered a brief smile mostly not at the material. To me it's "Think Tank Tested Comedy" putting together a cascade of imaginative (imaginary too) ways to sleight Obama's name, character and history as thoroughly as possible. Is that funny? Freeps looking for any chance of distracting themselves were fully amused and aroused, I'm sure.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:11 PM
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7. Oppression is never funny. Conservatism, currently, is all about oppression.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:12 PM by Dhalgren
When liberals or progressives make humor, it's funny, because it stems from an "everyman/everywoman basis. We're just like everyone else, so we are funny. Right-wingers are mean-spirited and, well, look what happened to Dennis Miller. He used to be funny and then just became weird and ugly...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:59 PM
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35. Authoritarians aren't funny. They are just weird and ugly. n/t
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 01:00 PM by sfexpat2000
/oops
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:13 PM
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8. all 3, but mostly mean-spirited - then, stupid, then tight assed (missing one -
afraid of their own shadow). Missing another one - greedy (though tight ass is good enough).
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NI4NI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:14 PM
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9. I vote for all 3
They're stupid, they're mean, and they're egotistical.
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:15 PM
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10. Doesn't the word "conservative" imply
an almost comical "anal retentive" disposition ?
Sorta funny in itself... but not in the way these clowns hope to be.
If anything the world is laughing at them, not with them.
Did anyone see that Horner guy on the Daily Show?
talk about pathetic.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:15 PM
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11. I chose two. That nails it. The routine was a transparently bitter attack
Humor has to have an honesty to work. A bitter attack can be funny if it is sincere--Bill Hicks, for instance. The Daily Show--John Stewart and Steve Colbert, especially--aren't pushing a message, they are being bitterly satirical. Satire can't push a message, it has to point out irony in something in order to be funny.

The clip started out funny, because it was mocking Obama for legitimate reasons (not significant, but legitimate). But it quickly turned into a thinly veiled bitter attack while pretending to be satire. Republicans are mean and self-centered. They don't get satire. Plus, they are too insecure. A comedian has to be able to laugh at himself or herself to be satirical. They have to be able to laugh at everything. Republicans can't do that. They can't admit they are wrong or inconsistent.

Plus they are bad actors. The two in that clip were horrible.

My thoughts. Probably wrong, as always.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:06 PM
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38. That's why they are not funny
For the most part they don't look for funny stuff and go with it. Conservative, especially the likes of unfunny fat ass Limbaugh, pick a target and try to morph their agenda into satire. When you are as stilted, narrow-viewed and provincial as Cons then super-impose morphing of agenda into humor the result is mostly unfunny mouthings with hints of clumsy childishness ranging to bitter obsessing.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:19 PM
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13. commercialized pro-government propaganda is inherently creepy
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William Bloode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:20 PM
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14. I go with two, and three.
I voted two though. I know more than a few smart conservatives. Part of our problem is we underestimate them. They do however tend to be tight assed and very mean spirited as a whole.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:21 PM
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15. the Daily show isn't a "liberal" show
The Daily show has aimed it's fire at the conservatives and Bush because they have been in power and are largely responsible for the issues we are currently dealing with. The Daily show has taken many hits against Democrats.

This conservative show fails because it starts with the premise that the Daily Show is liberal and conservatives need a conservative Daily show. Just that mindset makes the show impossible.
Maybe they just need to do a "fake" news show with Dennis Miller as host. At least he knows what's funny and would take shots at Republicans, and give conservatives what they want, a conservative perspective.

But really, I hope they spent millions trying to develop this stupid concept of a show. That's millions that Fox news won't be able to use for their "fake news"
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:22 PM
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16. All of the above? n/t
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:24 PM
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17. If they understood nuance, they wouldn't be conservatives in the first place.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:28 PM by Marr
Also, satire is the tool of the underdog. It's how the powerless mock the powerful. Conservatives are the establishment in every way, and when they try to use satire, it's like beating up an old woman.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:13 PM
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41. Good point
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mikeytherat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:26 PM
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18. Other - warped version of reality places them at a humor disadvantage
What "The Daily Show" does best is highlight the irony contained within reality. When, like Fox News, your view of reality is 180 degrees out of phase from reality, finding the irony therein is an exercise in futility. I saw it described somewhere recently like this:

The Che Guevara T-Shirt Sketch:

Fox News Version:
You take the guy who sells Che T-shirts and also have him sell Osama Bin Laden and Hitler T-shirts because, well, if you like Che you must like Hitler and Bin Laden, and you must also hate America. Ha, ha. That's the joke!

Daily Show Version:
Points out the irony of making a buck (Capitalism) off the image of a well-know Communist revolutionary. Has the guy also selling Gandhi brand handguns and Pope John Paul condoms.

Both sketches poke fun at the vendor, although only the second one is actually funny.

mikey_the_rat
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:30 PM
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19. Wow, that was awful.
The hosts are worse actors than anything you'll see in a poorly produced middle school play, and the intro camera pan was such an obvious ripoff of TDS. :puke:
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 03:57 PM
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44. sounds like a laugh track too
horrible
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:31 PM
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20. it's hilariously unfunny and not really current.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:32 PM
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21. Gotta go with number 1
anything that has some form of nuance is too much for them to handle. Creativity and intellect make for good humor. Conservatives lack those particular traits.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:38 PM
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22. I've seen fourth grade skits funnier than that. It'll bomb.
Edited on Thu Feb-15-07 12:56 PM by Lastlaughin08
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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:39 PM
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23. Incredibly unfunny. Is that show still on the air?
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NoGOPZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:40 PM
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24. Maybe all of the above
We're talking about people that think Mallard Fillmore is the best comic strip ever.
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kid a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:40 PM
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25. the best humor is based on gut wrenching honesty
You can't be funny when you have to lie.
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:40 PM
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26. Hatred
... isn't funny.

OK, i'll admit this, Stephen colbert's feigned hatred of bears is hysterical. (i think the important element in this example is that it is feigned)
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:42 PM
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27. If it doesn't contain slapstick, the humor is too subtle...
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:50 PM
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28. Because the Daily Show really isn't all that 'liberal'
No matter what Fox thinks.

Pointing out that folks are full of shit regardless of what side of the fence they are on is hardly 'liberal'. A left wing slant perhaps, but considering just how off most Americans' political compasses are it's no shock.

If someone made a TRULY far left-wing comedy show in the same spirit of Fox then it very well might not be all that funny as well.

That and laugh tracks are obnoxious.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:05 PM
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37. You could also say
That the RW is far often more full of shit than our side as well, as I've seen The Daily Show mock & satirize Democrats as well.

I mean, has any prominent Democrat been as seriously out of touch with reality as Bush and Dick "last throes" Cheney in recent memory?

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:53 PM
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29. I vote for mean-spirited
That is how they usually come out when they are trying to be funny.

Their humor doesn't go towards life and human foibles, but towards some essence of superiority of some over others.
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buckybadger2007 Donating Member (16 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:54 PM
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30. I just threw up in my mouth... thanks
What a god-awful clip.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:56 PM
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31. Welcome Bucky!
:toast:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:56 PM
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32. How do you be funny when your whole world revolves around you being right?
That's why. All they care about is everyone fawning over how much smarter, richer, better they are than everyone else. The only real thing they care about is being sucked up to. How do you be funny with that?

They don't get The Daily Show because it's about the comedy first, and not getting people to suck up to them.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 12:57 PM
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33. Faux News is really funny. They don't need a comedy show.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:01 PM
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36. They think we're the ones with no sense of humor
I'm not joking.

Because we get upset at jokes that are not "politically correct" (their words) - which really means we don't like jokes that are racist/sexist/anti-gay.

Or, because we don't like kicking people when they're down.
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itsmesgd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:10 PM
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40. evil is not funny. I never saw the Ted Bundy Variety Show, or Charlie's Chuckles with Manson
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-15-07 01:27 PM
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42. "Don't tell mama, I'm for Obama"
the only smile out of a group of conservative co-workers and not even a giggle at that. They found the whole thing pretty pathetic.
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