Alternate Reality Poll

After this posting in the Political Video forum with Ron Paul showing some respect for Kucinich, it got me to thinking....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x66328

What if the non-neo-con conservative/libertarian candidate got together with the non-imperialist non-DLC candidate as a third party ticket? Would the two camps be bigger than the mainstream camps? I wanted to see what people thought of these choices.

So in the General Election faced with the following choices on the ballot, who would you vote for?

(Choice is President/Vice President)

desire.

I find this so typical of HRC-supporters I see on DU: they always are so paranoïd about anything that has got something to do with their candidate. Even mentioning HRC could get a guy flamed on DU by HRC-supporters.

Must have not meant anything... :rofl::rofl::rofl:

When you start a poll that includes Hillary, and she doesn't get in first place, would you like it if arrogant know-it-all came in to say: "Tee hee hee, you're poll isn't going the way you want it to"? It's childish.

I never implied he SAID anything of the sort. Please go back and read what I posted. Thanks.

But your e-rage is showing.

Clark.

Also I could have put DK as the President and RP as the VP.

It really wasn't to try and make anyone look bad. Just a very interesting scenario in my own mind. I was thinking what if DK won the Dem nod and RP the Rep nod. Two good Foreign Policies even if you disagree with the domestics of either. I think the "men behind the curtain", who seem to really pick these people would not allow this under any circumstances, but if it did happen it would be the only way we could break out of this cycle of interventionist foreign policy (in my opinion). Which just a few years ago I thought it would be impossible for the U.S. to ever break out of that cycle (or even have candidates that would suggest it be popular). It still may be impossible considering the likelihood of a DK nod AND a RP nod happening about a million to 1 but interesting nonetheless.

I think the other candidates see this being a popular topic to bring up as well but know they would be fighting against propaganda they helped create if they did so. Propaganda that the U.S. needs to have troops all over the Earth fighting or the world will blow up.

Your poll is not objective. You should have put him/RP as Independents.

1. We are an imperial nation (are we? I can define scenarios that suggest we might be, and those that might cite the opposite. And then one has to define "imperial" so that alone would add plenty of choices; thinking sucks...)
2. We are included as the constituent base that would reap the rewards (If the politicians worked for more Americans, no doubt their ratings would be much higher, with more people wanting to defend what's right. That's just a guess, but in reality I think people are too swamped with gas prices to care about sod all, so that's the only thing they are going to care about; and being able to drive to work is not much of a reward in their eyes. Assuming I'm reading into everything right, which is why I shouldn't be looking into everything... Chess nor poker were games I was ever good at.)

Right, I'm back to reorganizing my budget. I know THAT is a predictable reality and more worthy of thought.

but with RON PAUL? No way.

Kucinich's "problem" is that he cares "too much" about social welfare issues. Ron Paul's attitude is 'Every man for himself.'

It's like running Dick Cheney and Nelson Mandela on the same ticket. One of these things doesn't go with the other....

He's done it BEFORE, after all.

DK is a convert to prochoice. Paul is a staunch antichoicer.

I don't know who in their right mind on this board would vote for him in this "alternate reality poll" or any other!

:evilgrin:

sure it is

me included.

President Kucinich/ Vice President Colbert. It is time for a DRASTIC CHANGE.

Considering we're on the brink of WW3, I'd rather vote for DK/RP, for that would be as staunch an anti-war ticket our country could get. Although I'd want DK to be the president since RP is goddamned loony in domestic matters.

WHO ARE YOU PEOPLE???

I hear many, many people talking about Kucinich and Paul teaming up (supporters of both candidates express their wish for this to happen). But these people are all just superficially paying attention. All they know, is that both men think alike about the Iraq war and restoring the Constitution. They assume that, because of agreement on two issues, they can run on the same ticket! But Paul is the exact opposite of Kucinich on privatization, health care, gay rights, abortion, taxes etc. I wish people would learn that someday.

But if I *had* to, I would vote Kucinich/Paul over Clinton/Clark any day.

A 1992 newsletter by Republican congressional candidate Ron Paul highlighted portrayals of blacks as criminally inclined and lacking sense about top political issues.

Reporting on gang crime in Los Angeles, Paul commented: "If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be."

"Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."

"These aren't my figures," Paul said this week. "That is the assumption you can gather from" the report.

He also wrote: "Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action."

Paul continued that politically sensible blacks are outnumbered "as decent people."

http://www.latestpolitics.com/blog/2007/05/ron-pauls.html

But then again, it's fun to watch.

I could not in good conscience vote for anyone that does not recognize my right to be free of governmental religious dogma.

;)

I think a better poll would have been:

Clinton/Giuliani = Corporate War Party

Kucinich/Paul = Peace and fiscal responsibility Party

Putting DK on top would safeguard social programs. Let Ron Paul be in charge of abolishing the Federal Reserve, that private group of 13 banks that has ruined our currency. Together they will get us out of Iraq in a jiffy.

trying to get Mr. States-rights No-Medicare McNo-Tax and Dennis fucking Kucinich to agree on a policy platform.

I do like Huckabee. I do like Obama. Kucinich has some good points too, many of which because he had the guts to go on O'Reilly's show and both of them kept a cool-headed debate, which was awesome.

I love Bloomberg, but he's not running...

Hillary is as empty as the water tower in Georgia... can't even speak from a rehearsed speech correctly and for even foreign issues, I cannot trust her anymore -- and I was for her. I could only hope she'd drop out.

Dodd just isn't in your list...

Giuliani doesn't come across the right way and I can't fathom why, though given a choice between him and other "R" candidates I'd have to put him over them... McCain's as much a flip-flopping fish as Hillary and I know nothing else of significance from anyone else. And there is one non-candidate I will not mention because I'm in the vast minority around here, despite citing valid references showing his record, if kept the same, would make him a very disappointing president.

*sigh* whatever happens after the primaries should be the real concern. Right now it's just a caramel flavored popcorn-fest for all. Except Hillary, she stepped in enough manure to power a methane plant for 50 years.