Did you know this about Giuliani? Yikes!

Rudy has no experience in national-level policy.

Rudy picked a police chief who was mob-connected, and who is now headed for federal charges — tax fraud, bribery, taking money from the Mafia (he later recommended this guy for the U.S. cabinet!)

He hired an unqualified crony for the NY Housing Development Corporation who later went to jail for child porn.

Rudy’s key supporter in the Senate has been exposed using prostitutes both in Washington and Louisiana. Later he hired a child molester, boyhoood friend and Priest, Alan Paca, at his law firm.

His urban reconstruction effort displaced low-income families to make room for big corporations.

He indulged in racial profiling.

He angered big chunks of his community for his support of the NYPD during the aftermath of the Amadou Diallo shooting.

He tried so often to restrict free speech against his opponents that he lost 35 lawsuits on that one issue alone — thirty-five!

The Farmersville garbage scandal helped force him to quit the 2000 Senate race.

Rudy’s many scandals also forced him to take himself out of consideration for the Homeland Security job.

He had to annul his first marriage because he was found to have married his first cousin; he dumped his second wife via a press conference rather than break the news in person — he was having an affair with the woman who would become his third wife. He actually was having 2 simultaneous affairs at the same time: Judith Nathan AND Christyne Letagano, from his office!

Rudy unilaterally grabbed a $7 million endowment for the Brooklyn Museum of Art because he didn’t like one of their artworks. Then he tried to evict the entire museum. A judge slapped him down, and then warned him not to try to retaliate.


Rudy tried to put public schools under a Catholic curriculum.

Rudy told the police to permanently confiscate the vehicles of drunk-driving suspects — some of whom were acquitted.

Rudy claims credit for reducing crime in New York, which actually began during the tenure of his predecessor, Dinkins, because of Dinkins’ policies (and enhanced by Clinton‘s decision to fund additional police officers, and the work of police chief Richard Bratton who later did the same for LA; Rudy still doesn‘t give Clinton or Bratton credit).

He claimed credit to crafting the strategy for destroying the Mafia in New York, which was actually the work of Professor Bob Blakey at Cornell.

He claimed he spent as much time at Ground Zero as the first responders; he later had to admit he lied. Giuliani also claims he knows more about foreign policy than McCain (Senate Armed Services Committee) or Biden (Foreign Relations Committee Chairman), but then he had to admit that he didn’t know North Korea was much further along than Iran in developing nuclear weapons!

Giuliani spend a ton of money on ads claiming he turned a deficit into a surplus in New York. Actually he left a bigger deficit than he started with, and it would have been bigger even if 911 hadn’t happened. The next mayor, Bloomberg, was forced take extraordinary measures to save the city from collapse. How did this happen? Giuliani indulged in the same brain-dead wishful thinking Bush has indulged in, passing irresponsible tax cuts, occasionally raiding pension funds for money (which experts called irresponsible). Even there, Rudy’s claims are misleading: he claims he cut taxes 17 percent, but taxes really went from 8.73 percent to 7.24 percent..

Rudy ignored the threat from Islamic extremists in New York even after the first WTC attack.

His decision to locate the Office of Emergency Management headquarters in a long-identified target for a terrorist attack at the World Trade Center damaged the city’s response — the center was of course wiped out. The diesel fuel tanks placed at 7 World Trade Center to power the command center actually caused the building to collapse and burn.

Firefighters on 911 were using exactly the same kind of radios that failed after the 1993 WTC bombing: 343 firefighters didn’t hear the evacuation order and died in the towers; Giuliani later claimed falsely they heard the order but ignored it.

Ten days after 911 he claimed the air was safe to breathe despite the presence of serious contaminants; he botched the air quality issue at Ground Zero even though he knew there was a safety problem, and firefighters lacked proper protective gear and were insufficiently protected against pollutants (contrariwise at the Pentagon the workers were properly equipped and no one got sick).
After 911, turf wars, sweetheart deals and Giuliani’s personal projects impeded the handling of the crisis further.

Victims’ families complain they were shut out of the process of designing the 911 memorial.

By 2007 Giuliani had to limit his appearances in New York because of protest from victims’ families, police and firefighters. Relatives and firemen said they didn’t want Giuliani even to speak at the 911 ceremonies in September 2007, saying it would be a “disgrace”.

As Rudy left office he put his office records under the control of a private firm so that he could retain permanent control.

Rudy represented heavily-polluting coal plants and Big Tobacco.

His firm represented Purdue Pharma when the drug maker was nailed for lying about Oxycontin; the federal prosecutor who was handling the case was threatened by the White House to back off the investigation, and when the lawyer said no, the White House, only days later, put him on the list of US attorneys to be fired.

Rudy’s firm worked for a guy who wants to do security work for the federal government — even though he is a confessed drug smuggler.

Rudy probably hasn’t told the far right that his firm worked for the race tracking gambling industry.
Rudy promised to leave his security consulting firm when he began his campaign, but he failed to do so; firm employees work for his campaign and the firm pays for his campaign security. He is violating federal campaign law.

Only a small percentage of the electorate really knows Rudy, even on the social issues which have been the central focus for months: only 37 percent even know he’s pro-choice, and only 18 percent know he originally favored civil unions before he changed his mind.

He supports school vouchers, supports torture, supports school prayer, supports putting the Ten Commandments in schools, and promises to appoint Scalia-like judges to the bench.

Rudy wants to ban late-term abortion, mandate parental notification, and ban federal funding for most abortions under Medicaid.

Rudy flipflopped on immigration and on civil unions

Republicans in Iowa already complain that Giuliani only talks about one issue, terrorism.

Rudy incessantly claims the Democrats will slash military budgets, impose socialism, and cause more people to die from terrorism. Lies and smears.

Rudy hired the same smear team that crushed a black Senate candidate, Harold Ford, in the Tennessee Senate race by implying he had sex with a Playboy bunny (the same team that smeared McCain for Bush in South Carolina in 2000).

A number of Republicans think he’s unfit for office. One might expect that from the far right, which has already rejected him because of abortion and his flipflops on some of their favorite issues. But even Al D’Amato – no reactionary – admitted that sponsoring Giuliani for a prosecutor job in New York was “the biggest mistake I ever made”.

My favorite Rudy quote: “Freedom is not a concept in which people can do anything they want, be anything they can be. Freedom is about authority. Freedom is about the willingness of every single human being to cede to lawful authority a great deal of discretion about what you do.”

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/giuliani-seen-as-sporting-strongest-coattails/#comment-327416

Recommend if you think this info should get out there!

but without links to original sources, it's pretty useless insofar as sharing for the purpose of changing folks' minds.

It would provide for a much more powerful tool to convince centrist Republicans to abandon their party.

A Godfather is finally running for President, the ultimate strategy of the Mob.

Giuliani, wife each married three times

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Republican presidential contender Rudy Giuliani has been married three times and, as it turns out, so has his wife.

The campaign confirmed Friday that Judith Nathan Giuliani was married twice -- not once -- before she wed the former New York City mayor in 2003. It was Giuliani's third marriage, and, until Thursday, had been thought to be his wife's second.

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Giuliani's first marriage to his second cousin, Regina Peruggi, ended after 14 years in divorce and later an annulment. His second marriage, to TV personality Donna Hanover, ended in a bitter divorce after he announced their breakup at a news conference in 2000.

more -

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/03/giuliani-wife-each-married-three-times.html

while they were making the invitation list and inviting the same family members, they never figured out they were related.

ETA links for doorbellrangdude

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/giuliani-keeps-conservative-nature-vague/20071024121909990001

It is a part of his resume that he has been noting more frequently lately, and on Tuesday he suggested he alone cleaned up New York City's smutty reputation.

"I took a city that was known for pornography, and licked it, to a large extent," he said.

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. The information contained in the AP news report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or otherwise distributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press. All active hyperlinks have been inserted by AOL.
2007-10-24 12:19:55

We tried to warn y'all.

We've had a number of closeted mobsters, I'm guessing it will be kind of cathartic to finally have an "out" one running the show.

Thanks!

and criminally minded ---

Did you think they were looking for someone honest?

"He had to annul his first marriage because he was found to have married his first cousin"

As I understand the story, he found it convenient to annul his first marriage (when he wanted to move on) by suddenly "discovering" that the familial relationship with his wife was closer than he had acknowledged before.

It was REALLY HARD to get an annulment (divorce) from "the church" at that time.

Rudy is toast.

evidence of wrong doing that the neocons deem necessary ... .... Fire fighters, fire officers and family members give dramatic testimony about Giuliani's leadership failures. Their dramatic stories tell how Giuliani failed to provide the FDNY with radios that worked, which led to the deaths of 121 fire fighters inside the World Trade Center's North Tower because they were unable to hear orders to evacuate.
Giuliani Gets Exposed As Fraud by Firefighters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I... The REAL Rudy: Command Center http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0E0wfShJ58 The Facts; http://therealrudy.org/facts

he was too busy making speeches and collecting hefty fees.

Nice job, BTW.

"War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - Orwell

I really really hope he gets the nomination.

because 9-11 still turns the Indie brain to mush it seems.

I'll be surprised if he doesn't grab the R nom. He's a perfect fit.

All you really need to do to understand Rudy Guiliani is to look at the prosecution of the Helmsleys.

Leona Helmsley made the mistake of believing that grand jury testimony was sacrosanct. Meaning it doesn't leave the grand jury room. Rudy Guiliani took her supposedly sacrosanct testimony to another grand jury and began an invesigation on that basis. Her sole mistake was stating with regard to Van Cleef & Arpels sending empty boxes to her home that she should not be put into the position of being a snitch. All the invoices for jewelry she bought clearly stated a "flat price" meaning Van Cleef & Arpels was liable for the tax. Her crime supposedly was not reporting them. Maybe she should have. Maybe the state of New York should have read the invoices and realized they mailed empty boxes because they, not Leona Helmsley, owed the taxes and left it at that. Rudy Guiliani, of course, did not leave it at that.

Next there were the claims of kickbacks from Mafia-connected contractors who claimed exortion. The Mafia was extorted by the Helmsleys? No doubt Leona Helmsley slapped them in the face with a lettuce leaf and told them to pay up or she'd shove them down an elevator shaft. That more than anything sums up the prosecution. And of course as everyone years later would discover, Guiliani himself was Mafia-connected. Not the Helmsleys. Guiliani.

What sealed the fate of the Helmsleys, Leona in particular, was the judge issuing a gag order against them. At which point the tabloids went into overdrive. "Only the Little People Pay Taxes" screamed one. Never mind that in the years they were accused of evading $1.5 million in taxes they had actually paid almost $150 million in taxes. Never mind that after an audit was conducted, they had actually OVERPAID their taxes for the years they were accused of evading taxes. Accountants do make mistakes. Unfortunately when they do, their clients get sent to prison. Especially when Rudy Guiliani is trying to send them to prison to make a name for himself as Mr. Law & Order. "Queen of Mean" another one screamed. If she were a man, she'd have been a good businessman. Because she was a woman, she was a bitch. A selfish, greedy bitch. Such a selfish greedy bitch that on the afternoon of 9/11 she walked down to a fire station and gave them a check for $5 million and opened up her hotels to anyone who needed a meal and/or a room. And where was Rudy? Planning the removal of all the goodies from the basement vaults at the World Trade Center. That was his priority. Not continuing the search for survivors. And telling everyone the air was safe. After all, there was all that cash and gold and diamonds that had to be recovered. And he never did acknowledge the generosity of Leona Helmsley on 9/11. Which quite a few noticed. Along with his priorities that afternoon and the days and weeks to follow.

Most of the tabloid stories were "exclusives" from "insiders" who probably were "inside" Guiliani's office. And the Helmsleys were warned each time the tabloids hit the streets that they could not respond. The judge would have them sent to jail if they did.

And the judge? Well, none other than George HW Bush's cousin.

And so the political career of Rudy Guiliani began.

But this one jumped out:

"The diesel fuel tanks placed at 7 World Trade Center to power the command center actually caused the building to collapse and burn."

I assure you, diesel fuel didn't take down WTC7. Have you seen the video of it? Of course, the MSM won't show it, but for good reason. It was an obvious demolition.

Old stuff typical of people who think they have no boundaries. Bully's do this all the time. He is a bully. Just like bush.

Everyone should see this, and rate it up. Hilarious.

It's Michael Moore, people.

Where has this been hiding?

Thanks for posting.

but you do not provide a link or sources for any of the claims.

The math is wrong here "Even there, Rudy’s claims are misleading: he claims he cut taxes 17 percent, but taxes really went from 8.73 percent to 7.24 percent.."

That is a 17% cut. 17% of 8.73 is 1.4841. 8.73 - 1.4841 = 7.2459

Also, about the rest of that paragraph

"Giuliani spend a ton of money on ads claiming he turned a deficit into a surplus in New York. Actually he left a bigger deficit than he started with, and it would have been bigger even if 911 hadn’t happened. The next mayor, Bloomberg, was forced take extraordinary measures to save the city from collapse. How did this happen? Giuliani indulged in the same brain-dead wishful thinking Bush has indulged in, passing irresponsible tax cuts, occasionally raiding pension funds for money (which experts called irresponsible)."

I would like to see the data on that. Here's my research on his budget claims, but I still did not get to the bottom of it.

I did some research on Rudy's budget claims, and posted it on the liberal web, where it was read by approximately 25 people.
I was trying to evaluate his claim that he increased city revenue by cutting taxes. Kinda hard to tell from my source, which was SAUS (Statistical Abstract of the US). There's total revenue, and general revenue, and pension income and pension expenses and so on, so you have to dig to find the bottom line. Plus SAUS is missing a year of Rudy's terms. In 1997 they had data for 1996, but in 1998 they had the same data (for 1996) and then in 1999 had data for 1998, leaving me with a hole in 1997. Plus, in some years they figured per capita taxes and in some years they did not.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x1539550#1542484

"Rudy vs. the truth

Claim
"He cut taxes 23 times in New York and turned a $2.3 billion budget deficit into a multi-billion dollar surplus, while balancing the city’s budget."

Truth - Every budget from 1994-2001 shows as balanced, but I sense accounting tricks because the bottom line shows NYC debt in 1994 - 40.285 billion in 2001 $57.518 billion. Rudy ADDED $17.3 billion to the city's debt. In 1998, for example the city spent 2.337 billion on interest payments compared to 1.053 billion for fire protection. So debt is expensive.

It also seems that Rudy balanced the budget by cutting expenses. Expenses went from $40.85 billion in 1994 to $38.64 billion in 1995 and $38.75 billion in 1996. Cutting expenses is not a bad thing, except Republicans have a historical tendency to do it at the expense of the poor.

I am not sure when the tax cuts happened, but tax revenue for NYC was
1993 - 17.7 billion
1994 - 18.09
1995 - 17.79
1996 - 18.18

So tax revenues grew by 2.2% from 1993-94 and by a mere .2% in 1994-96.

The population of NYC grew from 7.322 million in 1990 to 8.008 million in 2000. It is so typical of supply-side liars to use a growing population and a growing economy to create a false growth in revenues."

That is, because the population grows and the economy grows, tax revenues may grow in spite of a tax cut, but that's growth happening because of other factors and not the supply side magic that its proponents claim.




I also would add this:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/54

they need to tie this study to Republicans in government
Posted by hfojvt in Latest Breaking News
Tue Aug 14th 2007, 10:12 AM

"About 800,000 city residents are eligible for food stamps, but do not receive them. During Mayor Rudolph Giuliani's second term, barriers to access were intentionally created, causing a 42 percent drop in recipients."


Barriers to access were INTENTIONALLY created. By Rudy. I believe that's from an article in "The Nation" called "How the other half still lives".

It makes absolutely no sense to do that as a Mayor either. It's federal money coming to your city at no cost to local government. It just says to me that "Rudy hates poor people".

:wtf:

Cheney must love this creep.

"Even there, Rudy’s claims are misleading: he claims he cut taxes 17 percent, but taxes really went from 8.73 percent to 7.24 percent.."

Actually, cutting taxes from 8.73 percent to 7.24 percent IS cutting taxes 17 percent.

(8.73 - 7.24)/8.73 = .17 = 17%

Cutting taxes from 34% to 17% isn't "17 percent" but rather 50% (you cut taxes in half there).

I hate Rudy as much as anyone (living in NJ we get NYC news and he's such a phony it's not even funny), but as a math geek I have to point out your error in your math!

Now let's go Al Gore or John Edwards!! =D

Just effing wonderful.

and then I see W in there twice. TELL IT TO EVERYBODY AND SAY IT LOUDLY.

Nice list. I'd heard many of these things here and there but hadn't seen all of them on one list. It would be nice to have links to them. Maybe I'll work on that.

He used that as an excuse to get the marriage annulled.

In many states it would be legal to marry a first cousin if they were in their late 50's to 60's.

and this and much more is why Giuliani will not be the candidate.

Romney and Huckabee are going to sink him.

Fortunately his nomination will further batter the Pubs worsening reputation.

can't wait

Only those who don't know him think he is any good...

Therefore nothing he does, or says, will ever surprise me. I have no doubt the man would throw his own mother under a moving bus if he thought it would further his political career.

Hilary will spend $100 million smearing him while every republican in America will spend twice that amount combined smearing her.

Where is President Gore?

Period.

:sarcasm:

names their kid Al Paca? :o

NO MORE crooks in the White House!!!!! --Next!

despite the cross dressing and abortion.

This makes two Repug males who have sex with females nabbed in the last couple of months ????

I don't believe it.

Of all the piss poor choices GOP has, this one is the worst.
And if their propaganda/election theft machine gets behind him, none of it will matter

That's why he will win the Republican nomination and maybe even the White House. Even in liberal The Netherlands 99% of the people still think Guliani is this big anti-terrorisme hero who saved New York.. :puke:

we should be very, very afraid of the prospect of a Rudy Giuliani presidency.

and thus the perfect candidate for their party.

...he's the Prefect Republic Party candidate!

Go Rudy! Win that Nomination!!:applause:

nt

He still will beat Hilary and become our next president if we are so syupid as to nominate her.....

Rudy - we can beat - ROMNEY is a tougher opponant

I think that will be rather embarrassing... I mean, wow, these candidates of theirs are gonna be easy to tear apart.. our easiest for them will be saying B. H. Obama is a Muslim in hiding who won't wear the flag pin or put his hand over his heart during the national anthem, that will scare so many people out to vote in redland & tossup states you won't believe it!

:sarcasm:

Waste of space.