Okay, so the US is going to be bankrupt, dismantled, torn down, you name it.

What happens after the purported crash?

There's enough tinfoil encasing facts that may or may not lead to a crash (stranger things have happened...), but isn't it more fun to incessantly talk about what might happen afterward?

Will everybody be sent to jail?

Summarily executed?

Let's have some jiffy pop :tinfoilhat: fun with this!

Oh, and:

It's all about erasing what was before and implementing the economics of Friedman on a large scale. You might want to study Chile. Pinochet was the first to introduce the "ownership society". It means new owners and forced rightwing economics. Our economy it seems will fall quicker however than planned with those forces eating away at it at the present.

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Order! "You can't stop globalization!"

My wife was saying the other day that these assholes want to BUY THE PLANET!!! And she's Very Smart, and Very Intuitive..
So I'm pretty much scared shitless, as she pretty much always right, and I can't think of another Planet that would have me..

Some very serious shit will be going down in the next ten years. many of us will no longer recognize the country (Yeah I'm there already too), or their previous existence, what Money WAS, that sort of thing.. Think "serfs" only serfs whose faces get melted off at 500 yards just for fun, or because they can't yell "Jesus" to the Master that loud..

The Black death of yore may seem like a picnic.

nothing leads more to lemminglike behavior than fear.

Lemmings... sometimes it's just the habit of following and not really looking at the situation for one's self.

Cliff ahead. Corporations buying pols globally to enact laws globally that put global corporate interests above sovereign states' rights to enact laws protecting their own people.

Big cliff ahead. Corporations sucking up rights to all the resources of the globe

Bigger cliff ahead. Corporations patenting seeds and having their puppet pols pass laws making it illegal for farmers to save seed so they can plant next year's crops. Force the farmers to buy from you and you have made them SERFS, not people who can independently feed themselves & their countrymen.

Fatal cliff ahead. Corporations 'owning' water. It's happening

It's all happening. You don't have to be scared shitless to be looking at reality. But the latter can make one lean to the former. Not looking at reality is also lemming-like behavior.

edit: typo

Very simple.

as allowing oneself to be scared shitless. That wasn't the point I was making, however. I'm fully cognizant of what's transpiring today, and where it could lead tomorrow, but I'm focused not on the possible future, but the very real present.

As Pema Chodron says: Start where you are.

Your Corporation today? :)

I should make a bumper sticker, and then get some Corporatio to sell them for me, eh? :)

our economy is stratified. Take a long look at the lower rung of this economy and you will see the future.

We are not even close to being bankrupt. In fact, our percentage of debt is no more than that of Japan, and many nations are far more indebted than the U.S.

In fact, we are really in pretty good shape, considering the wasteful spending in Iraq and Afghanistan. We could eliminate the national debt altogether in 15 yrs or so if we had a congress that knew how to balance a budget and manage money. But we don't.
Every congress seems to want to save the world by reaching into our pockets just a little more.

While we are not close to bankrupt as a nation, the disparity between the haves and have-nots continues to grow faster than the taxation ratios. We need to raise taxes on the wealthy about ten percent more than we currently have, and that would change things dramatically!

This is not class envy, I am one who would be paying the higher taxes. I don't mind paying my share to put America back in black, and the vast majority of the wealthy would never miss the money. So, what is keeping us from doing just that? Greed!
The tax system in the U.S. is based upon a huge middle-class, like we had in the fifties thru the eighties, when there were good paying manufacturing jobs in America that a family could thrive on.

We need to adjust taxes to reflect where the money is at, today. We need to eliminate paid insurance for our legislatures, and I guarantee you would see legislation to make it more affordable. We need to cut foreign aid 20% across the board, quit fighting battles for other countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel and sell them the weapons to do it themselves, giving those jobs to Americans. We could cut defense spending 50%!

Why don't we have candidates running on a platform like this?

Monetary aid, offshoring, boosting their economies, I wholly agree.

Depends on who we give foreign aid to, but cutting what we dole out would certainly help the problem.

Plus we need to rezone areas; so people can live closer to work. This would reduce gasoline issues...

U.S. debt (corporate + personal + government) is now higher than GDP.

Is this true of Japan?

(And let's not get into derivatives.)

It will cause distress among many Americans. Corporate balance sheets don't take care of economic justice issues. The shock treatment in the reorder isn't good economics and the saddling of long term debt no matter the overall GDP is a problem as it is used as part of the tool of reorganizing under corporatism or privatization. It causes a larger separation of rich and poor in this country because the debt will be the leverage for the change.

Everyone is making great points in this thread, the Height of Privatization is BLACKWATER - a White Supremacist Corporation that is offered Huge contracts, owns an Army, an Air Force, soon to have a Navy and is Beholden to NO Country.. They do not take an Oath to protect this Nation, no Alligiance to anyone, but possibly BUSH..

That and the utter lack of regard for a nation of Laws spells DOOM..

Might be time to move to Dubai and go to work for Halliburton just to survive, sadly.

WE are the New Nazis, thanks to BushCo..

attack by neglect.

We are in a place in history where we have never been before .

We have no real allies , no one to help us . We have global warming . We have become a warrior country attacking other countries for no good reason .

We have a government soley for corporate greed and we are over populated to the point where water is running out . We have no regulations at all .

When I look at all that is so different than the great depression I can't even look at history for an answer or a way out of this .

Millions will lose their homes and go where with what ?

There isn't even land to live off of if one chose that way of life .

It is just endless .

People talk of a general strike but one day won't do it and we know that . People protest and no attention is given , now you get taken away or tased if you protest or question anything . Free speech zones .

I just don't understand that if the constitution has been shreaded then why do we need to heed impeachment rather than just removing them as we would be removed . How much closer to a dictatorship do we need to come ?