Agree or disagree --- ????

'''There is evidence that the internet has reached market saturation for dispersal of information. There are 220 million adults 'in the US out of 296 million total population. Approximately 137 million adults and children have internet access. Activism on the internet is basically a non productive enterprise except for organization. It is imperative that rights activists shift information and activism venues from the net to the public in general.'''

http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/09/25/ward.htm


Are we wasting time or organizing????

Are we wasting time on what?

Are we wasting organizing?

What is the question?

whereas it might be put to better use in organizing and activities to ensure that
"It doesn't happen here!" . . . ???

I have learned more on the net than anywhere and have made contact with people with like minds. I have used to web to link up with several of my biggest causes that I never would have without the net. I have also wasted hours on wacky youtube videos.

It's neither all good nor all bad, but somewhere in the middle.

If you're asking whether there's a whole lot of feel-good preaching-to-the-choir, then yes, there definitely is. But mixed heavily into that is a means of disseminating important information, and organizing live demonstrations, actions, voting support, gotv, etc., that would be much more difficult to do without the internet.

Anything can be written on the net. How to distinguish truth from falsehood usually depends on one's existing view.

The problem is the ease of communication. Because it is so easy to publish ideas people do not need to go outside their areas of comfort. They can find a niche that agrees with their views or supports them. No matter how wild their view may be.

It was once thought that people wanted choice. Choice seemed to be the great reward of freedom. But research shows that given too many options the brain short circuits and a plethora of choices becomes noise. This is what the net and the media are in many ways. Without a system refining ideas and information down to a manageable level people become overwhelmed and seek comfort rather than further information. Too much noise causes people to retreat to emotionally based decisions rather than careful consideration of the facts and information available. With all the spin and misinformation out there finding accurate information becomes the problem.

What is the truth when everyone has input? The truth becomes obscured in an ocean of opinions.

1. disperses information

2. allows communications for organization

on number two is does alot as it allows people from other states to start organizations and to meet up for protests. alot of people don't have time for that so at least they do number 1. if you cant be active at least you can be informed.

Every day I run across friends on non-political boards who have not heard half of the stuff we take for granted here. Some get sick of it or ignore it, and a few have attacked me for it, but quite a few have thanked me for helping to spread information and have in turn started looking into things themselves and spreading info further.

As far as I am concerned, because of the state of the media, we are doomed without the net. And I'd also bet that the majority of computer users are not just using it for reading about current events.

As for whether saturation has been reached with the 9/11 "truth movement" I'd rather not get into that much. While I think the administration has been criminally negligent and that there are many legitimate questions over how things were handled, I also think some of the bad research and misinformation goes both ways and damages the real goal - which I would hope would be to get people to sit up and pay attention to what the government is doing.

I know I've learnt a ton here. How else to explain Bush crashing popularity. The internet was a part of why his ratings fell. The GOP talking points were no match for the internet.

Is participation in this way sufficient activism --- ????

Knock on doors, deliver pamphlets, drive people to the polls, etc..

I have to say being out talking to people is the greatest ---