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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:34 PM
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Saw a Star Trek: TNG episode about torture today ...
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 05:54 PM by Akoto
It addressed the subject of torture, as well as military rule, and of how it's ultimately self-defeating regardless of the motivation. Very intense, a bit hard to watch, but quality viewing. Rather sad that our culture has since become like the villains here. I'm always amazed at how matters dealt with on Star Trek have become real for us so many years later.

The episodes are called "Chain of Command," and there are parts one and two. I wish I could post the whole thing, but this is all I could find:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ3EDTYZTOU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU

EDIT: Found another clip toward the ending.
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:39 PM
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1. Ohhhh Yea....
They even took a swipe at Raygun with the Admiral that traded arms for hostages. Remember that episode?
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:41 PM
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2. There. Are. Four. Lights!
I love that episode.

And you're right; it's ultimately self-defeating.

I wish the Bush Administration could get that through their freakin' heads.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:43 PM
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3. There are FOUR LIGHTS. I'll never forget that episode. Wish they'd bring TNG back.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:47 PM
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4. Is this the one with Picard being tortured?
If it's the episode I'm thinking of, that torturous alien was a father and his child came in and saw what her dad was doing.

It was excellent.
Many episodes correlate to what has gone on.
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:47 PM
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5. Yes, that's the one.
In fact, the first link is the scene you're remembering.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:48 PM
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6. Is this the one where the Cardissian tortured a naked Picard?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 05:49 PM by RamboLiberal
I caught a bit of it a couple of months ago and yeah I couldn't help but think of the Bush admin and their love of torture.

Should be required viewing in the Congress & WH!

On edit I see Akoto answered this in response to another poster. Thanks.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:54 PM
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7. Yes. (NT)
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:59 PM
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9. Dagger of The Mind
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 05:59 PM by IanDB1
I made these :)


"Must!.... change!... channel!..."


"Sweet Jesus, I hate Bill O'Reilly!"

Dagger of the Mind
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Dagger of the Mind" is a first season episode of Star Trek: The Original Series. It is episode #9, production #11 and was broadcast November 3, 1966. It was written by Shimon Wincelberg (under the pen name "S. Bar-David"),and directed by Vincent McEveety.

Overview: The Enterprise visits a prison planet where a new treatment for the criminally insane has deadly results.

More:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagger_of_the_Mind
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 05:56 PM
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8. It's also been done in Babylon 5 and in Farscape a lot, too.
In fact, Farscape does for torture what Star Trek: TNG did for Commander Data in the Holodeck.
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:18 PM
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10. Oh, God, do I miss that show!!!! Maybe we'll get reruns again soon at
a good time.....

May try to find some torrents of this particular two-parter! Thanks for mentioning it!
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:23 PM
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11. They show it on G4....
Do you get that channel?
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:40 PM
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18. I just found out we have it...and I see Star Trek is on at 11 pm local...!!
BTW, what is G4 and why is STTNG on with Ninja Warriors?
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physioex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 04:16 AM
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19. G4 is kinda a strange channel...
They cater to your stereotypical single male beer drinkers ego if you catch my drift. I don't watch any other shows except TNG. Sometimes it comes on alternate nights and weekends. So keep checking your schedule and enjoy.... :)
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 06:26 PM
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12. This was the first Star Trek episode my 90+ y.o. grammie ever saw
and she liked it.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:25 PM
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13. Star Trek


This one was on this morning....:hi:
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:29 PM
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15. Ahhh! I think he is after Swamp Rat, run! Cheney is looking for you!
Man I loved the original ST.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 07:50 AM
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21. Ahhh! Dick Cheney unmasked! Now I've Gorn blind!!!! (NT)
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:27 PM
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14. Torture in the end is not about information gathering
It is a political tool to smash opposition. It instills fear and oppression.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:37 PM
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16. Chain of Command, Part II
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Chain_of_Command%2C_Part_II
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:45 PM
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17. a science fiction television show has more intelligence than our government
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 05:13 AM
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20. Saw a VOYGER episode yesterday..
That delt with the Evolution ve religious myth issue.

It is simple: The Hard evidence or a fantasy, the choice is yours.
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