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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:42 PM
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Enough is Enough!!!
I have seen the supporters of one candidate sink into the rolling swamp of filth one posts after the other. None absolutely none of the other candidates supporters have sunk this low. And we know who you are and who you support.

But the recent post about Hillary being a lesbian has finally sunk lower than rove ever did. First just how damn ridiculous is this post. We know the rumor was started by a republican. This type of thing has been around for ages. Men can't stand for a woman to have strong views. Men can't stand for women to be held in high esteem. They don't want a woman to be in charge, we know this.

But here we have a person running for the president of the United States. A person who has been under attack from the republicans and now the Macho men in her own party, for the last 15 to 20 years. Who in the hell in their right mind would think, this woman, smart, intelligent, strong leader and very very conscience of the public eye on her would have a lesbian relationship. But then it doesn't take long for those candidates supporters to jump on any piece of shit started by republicans, if they think that they can flame Hillary.

If you surf the internet, you can find loads of pieces about the character of the other candidate and his support by a Chicago gangster. That the gangster was responsible for the outing of his opponent Ryan in a sexual interlude. YOu could find a lot of stories. I did. But I never posted them and if I was that low and reprehensible as his supporters I would with the links I found. But if Hillary can't beat him on her own points and damn regardless of the smash and flame job they are trying to do she is and by a large amount. So trash on....and when you man looses, and he will I personally will start to post all the crap I have gotten off the internet about him. And hope I can dash his hope for re-election like you flamers are try to do to Hillary Clinton. She is shoulders above in class and character than you all and your opponent.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:44 PM
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1. 'Who in the hell in their right mind would think, this woman, smart, intelligent......
would have a lesbian relationship."


Could your prejudices shine through any clearer, Margie Dee?
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:46 PM
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2. Yeowch. Gotta admit you nailed that one down pretty hard.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 PM
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5. Thank you very many. :)
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:48 PM
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8. And thank you, Bluebear
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 09:49 PM by JeffR
I was going to mention that in my post below, but I could feel my reason to live ebbing away just by responding to the OP, and decided to just hit the button. You covered that neatly.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:52 PM
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16. Well, I am always 'very very conscience of the public eye', you know.
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 09:53 PM by Bluebear
:silly:

:hi:
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:54 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. And a good'un!
:hi:

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:50 PM
Response to Reply #1
11. yeah, that caught my eye too. n/t
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:55 PM
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20. No effing excrement, Bluebear...
I much prefer the company of lesbians than "straight" women.

Conversation, and all that.

And, as my late, great Father-in-Law used to say....

"Nothing wrong with a lesbian or two."

No offence intended here, but I have always thought that was a great line.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:56 PM
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22. Perfect response. Thank you for being so quick! nt
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:00 PM
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24. Thank you
You saved me the trouble.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:00 PM
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26. She's a hell of a sight smarter than to have a lesbian relationship
and I don't give a flying fu*k I think the other candidate's supporers are a bunch of characterless goops who are trying their damnedest to get something any piece of shit they can float.


And since Hillary is not smart and intelligent according to the other candidates supporters...I am going to go back and find all that crap about that other candidate. His connection to the Chicago gangsters, the illegal contributions. Be they false or not and post them not only here but in all the groups I belong to and see what comes of that..After all if his candidates are slinging shit I'm going to start on him.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:16 PM
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30. "After all if his candidates are slinging shit ", who's candidates?
Edited on Mon Nov-05-07 10:22 PM by seriousstan
If you do post all this info about "he/she/it/anonymous group" could you link to the sources so we can see the original English post instead of having to use Babblefish to translate it out of blatherese?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:36 PM
Response to Reply #26
34. Yeah
This lesbian says, "Fuck You", you tedious imbecile."
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Chovexani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:50 PM
Response to Reply #34
36. This bi chick seconds the motion
:puke:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:29 PM
Response to Reply #26
37. Are you here for the Methadone clinic?
Third door on the left.
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fizzgig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:54 PM
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43. just what the hell does that mean?
"she's a hell of a sight smarter than to have a lesbian relationship."

really, what does that mean?
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Blashyrkh Donating Member (816 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:37 PM
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40. Good call. And furthermore;
I'd like to offer a great big "Fuck You" on behalf of all men who were slandered by this:

"Men can't stand for a woman to have strong views. Men can't stand for women to be held in high esteem. They don't want a woman to be in charge, we know this."
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:48 PM
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42. Prrecisely.
"Horror of horrors!" Yeah. Riiiight.

Tell me again about the Hillbots being "progressive"? :eyes:


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motocicleta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #42
64. Once again, the ignore button
is my good friend. The OP may have a point, but it is lost in the OP's bigotry. I will not make up my mind on the advice of such a person.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 PM
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3. Dude, step away from the internetz
This sort of crap is predictable. And although you yourself are above such pettiness, you might have noticed that a lot of Clintonistas here resort to the same trashy tactics day in, day out.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 PM
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4. "And we know who you are and who you support. "
um. i don't know. i don't know the thread. i don't know who they are. i don't know who they support.

can you give me a better clue than the fact that they support a man?

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:48 PM
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7. Well, "when you man looses" I guess we will find out!
:silly:
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:50 PM
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13. I personally want to see a breakdown of that particular misspelling and political affiliation.
That one irks me way more than any other. I just have no idea how it got so out of control. "loose/lose"...argh!
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:59 PM
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23. and we know what drugs you have taken
and we're coming to get you!

damn, that sounds familiar...

dp
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:48 PM
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6. I thought Musto started this whole story. Is he a repuke? nt
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:51 PM
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14. i thought he was a comedian wannabe. n/t
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:54 PM
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19. I'm sayin'....
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:49 PM
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9. Link please. I hate missing things! (nm)
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:56 PM
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21. Here
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NC_Nurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:49 PM
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10. Her husband got a BJ from an intern and he was smart.
I don't think stuff like that has anything to do with intelligence.

Frankly, I don't think it should matter if she has a lesbian relationship
anymore than it would matter if she had a male lover. The problem should
to me to be the adultery issue, which a lot of the candidates could or have had.
The sex of the lover shouldn't matter. At least not to our side.

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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:53 AM
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57. The original thread that the OP is responding to
accused her of both kinds of adulterous relationships, and a resulting suicide. It was nasty Rethug filth, and I don't blame the OP for being upset about it.

I think the OP could have worded her statement better. I think she meant that HRC was too smart to get involved in any adulterous relationship. BC was smart, too -- but his personality got the better of him. She is much more controlled.
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:50 PM
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12. Is this a test?
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:52 PM
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15. lol. n/t
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:53 PM
Response to Reply #12
17. It's a test, alright
More like a trial, actually. Someone, please hang me now.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:00 PM
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25. Who started a thread about Hillary being a Lesbian? Not on DU...I hope!
I'm not a Hillary fan, but that is gutter politics and really belongs at FR.:(
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:14 PM
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28. Maybe he/she did?
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:20 AM
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48. I'm not sure if it was a whole thread, or just some posts in a thread.
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 01:21 AM by pnwmom
But I saw it too.

I'm a GLBT supporter and family member, but I saw the HRC lesbian claim as an attempt to smear her. It's using people's homophobia to attack HRC, and that's reprehensible, whether it's done by Freepers or DUers who favor other candidates.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:13 PM
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27. It doesn't bother me
I want to know what they are saying out there. I am not stupid enough to believe everything I read and don't need protection from what others are talking about. I also want to know what is out there that can trip up the candidates because this election is too important. I don't want to be in a bubble and I don't care which candidate it is.
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:16 PM
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29. Say it ain't so, Mojorabbit
with free-thinkers like you out there, however will Senator Clinton win the nomination!?

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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:21 PM
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31. She not a lesbian!?! That was the main reason I was voting for her. Damn.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:25 PM
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33. heh!
me too ;-)
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JackBeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:24 PM
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32. "Who in the hell in their right mind would think, this woman, smart, intelligent, strong leader and
very very conscience of the public eye on her would have a lesbian relationship."

I'm sure our lesbian public figures, Tammy Baldwin and Christine Quinn immediately come to mind, share your concern.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 10:39 PM
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35. Quoting Dave Chappelle: "I like lesbians."
So ... why are we supposed to be upset?

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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:32 PM
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38. Visualize punctuation.
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:33 PM
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39. OMG A LESBIAN!!
Run for cover she'll eat your children!!
...sigh.
How transparent. Sentiments such as yours would be welcomed on Free Republic.
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:43 PM
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41. I'm not voting for who a person sleeps with
I'm voting for their policy decisions and positions. Anyone that tries to make hay out of who they sleep with is a political hack and not worth my time.

And to suggest that because she is intelligent etc she could not be a lesbian.... yeah... thats gonna win people over.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:09 AM
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44. To be fair..."very very conscience of the public eye on her" is why she is too smart.
Give the OP their due....Her political sense excludes her from having an open lesbian relationship. She knows the positives and negatives. She is the first serious woman candidate...does she also have to carry the mantle of homosexuality? From what I understand, people can get divorced or even have an "open marriage" while President. This is not an impeachable offense.

How much of a load does Hillary have to carry?
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:12 AM
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45. Don't have to tell me about that eye
As part of a minority group that is opposed in election terms over 50% I know all to well about avoiding controversy for politics sake. Just pointing out that ideally criteria such as sexual relations make no difference in the world of politics. But obviously we do not live in an idea world.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:22 AM
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46. I heard that. Just saying........your misrepresentation of the OP was a little harsh.
You can't change people's words to make a point. A simple reading of the OP shows the writer thinks that Hillary is too smart to make the mistake of having a lesbian affair.

I don't underestimate the human sex drive. Nothing is impossible.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:11 AM
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47. Fuck you and your homophobia. nt
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:36 AM
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50. The OP was referring to a thread wherein the poster
repeated several Rethug rumors about HRC being a lesbian and about Vince Foster committing suicide because of her. That poster clearly was attempting to use people's homophobia against HRC, just like the Rethugs do. When that poster called HRC a lesbian it wasn't meant as a compliment, or even as a neutral statement, but as a smear.

That attempt at a smear is what the OP is reacting to. And when s/he said HRC was too smart, I'm sure she meant -- to do something stupid like get involved in an adulterous affair. Yeah, Bill did that. But nobody would seriously argue that her personality is like his.

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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:38 AM
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52. I know what the OP was responding to
It doesn't change the fact that the OP is homophobic.

Please see posts by Bluebear and JackBeck above.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:47 AM
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54. Are you declaring homophobia on the basis of this one OP?
Bluebear never saw the original thread, so s/he's not in much of a position to judge it. I don't know about JackBeck.

But I very much doubt the OP was intending to say that lesbians aren't smart. Come on, get real. S/he was most likely saying that she thought HRC was too smart and cautious to get involved in a clandestine adulterous affair, whether straight or lesbian. Yeah, her husband is smart and he had an affair. But he's nothing like her. I just don't see HRC making that kind of mistake.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:55 AM
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58. I don't need teh original thread. "They don't want a woman to be in charge, we know this."
WHO knows that? Talk about stereotypes, Margie Dee is full of them.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:07 AM
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59. I thought she was talking about Republican men, since that's how she
began the paragraph. But if you're right, then she's anti-male, and anti-Rethug, but not necessarily anti-gay, IMO.

:shrug:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 10:43 AM
Response to Reply #54
62. Homophobia indicated in this one too.
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 10:56 AM by sheeptramp
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:02 PM
Response to Reply #47
66. I will join you in that sentiment. Turd in a punchbowl.
HIllary sucks ass by the way.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:27 AM
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49. Most of the posters here are being, as Obama would say, disingenuous.
Any right-winger who claims that HRC is a closet-case is trying to smear her, and DUers who repeat the claim are also trying to use people's homophobia to attack her.

I saw the thread the OP is reacting to, and the person spouting the lesbian claim was clearly using it as a smear. S/he also repeated the old trash-talk that Vince Foster had killed himself because of HRC.

This is politics at its lowest.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:37 AM
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51. Yes, & this poster says Hillary is too smart & intelligent to have a lesbian affair.
I don't know about the post to which the OP is referring, but MargieDee couching it in these terms is unfortunate.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:43 AM
Response to Reply #51
53. I saw the original thread, and it was very nasty. It got locked before I could
respond.

This poster goofed in how s/he worded her statement, but I can understand the poster saying that HRC was too smart to risk having an adulterous affair -- lesbian or straight -- in the public eye. Yes, Bill did it -- and where did that get him? And nobody, absolutely nobody, thinks her personality is anything like hers.

By the way, the original thread also repeated the old lies about a suicide as having been caused by HRC. It really was Rethug filth, and I don't blame the OP for being upset about it.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:48 AM
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55. I saw that thread
when it had just two or three replies. I'm glad I hid it, I knew that no good would come of it.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 01:50 AM
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56. Are you, in some twisted way, trying to be supportive of Hillary?

Because, if so, it is definitely NOT working.



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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 02:10 AM
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60. I saw the original thread and it was quickly locked because it was so nasty.
It contained not only the lesbian claim, but the old V.F. suicide claims, etc. Just rehashed Rethug garbage.

So yeah, the OP is getting hammered because she misspoke while trying to defend HRC.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 09:22 AM
Response to Reply #60
61. No. The OP is getting hammered for the homophobic bullshit
in her post. It's beyond disgusting.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 11:44 AM
Response to Reply #61
63. The overt hypocrisy of decrying the politics of slime,
and then engaging in it in the last paragraph of the OP is also remarkable.

Must be having a bad day.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #63
68. Unfortunately it's not a "bad" day for her. It's a normal day.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:00 PM
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65. Homophobia is so gay
As for you....
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 12:05 PM
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67. BItwit, I refuse to ut you on ignore. I do not like Hillary so I encourage you
to continue sharing your thoughts with us. You are the strongest asset for those of us who do not want to see her nominated.

Thanks you and keep up the good work. :thumbsup:
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-07-07 01:30 AM
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69. Calling someone a lesbian isn't insulting them
Not for us--just for the whackjobs on the right.

If she's bisexual, none of the very many celebrity gossip items that I periodically see in my inbox has ever come up with a possible name for any of the putative lucky ladies. I conclude that they don't exist. And if she was doing any adultery at all over the course of her life, I'm sure she gave it up after deciding to run for the presidency.
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