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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:27 PM
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The Repukes are voting for it because they know the vote will fail
And they are probably Repukes who are in close races next year.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:31 PM
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1. Re: the close races...
so they're thinking that making a mock stand against the criminals will help them? Is that it?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:32 PM
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3. well in my district which the Repuke won by 6000 votes last time
I can see our side using this vote against him.

It wouldnt surprise me that he voted for it.

And also this is not a vote on the bill itself but a vote to get rid of it completely without debate.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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8. Huh?
Dems using it against the repuke?

How does that work?

(p.s. Well aware it was a vote to table it.)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:34 PM
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14. Rep Roskam (R) did not want to vote to Impeach Cheney
You dont think that could be used as a campaign talking point?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:36 PM
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19. So Roskam voted to table it?
:wtf:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:36 PM
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21. will find out what he does
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:37 PM
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22. Okay.
:wtf:
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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6. Well, their constituents voted them in in the first place...
So I imagine they'll be just as easily fooled.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:32 PM
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2. But Damn more Repukes then Democrats are voting Not
to kill the Impeachment of Cheney. Where is the Democratic back bone? The repukes are showing them up.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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5. well thats the Dems with their chickenshit syndrome
:grr:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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10. This is disgusting.
:grr:

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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:34 PM
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13. Steny Hoyer strongarmed the Dems.
You are not a team player if you vote for the bill, so says Hoyer.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:32 PM
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4. they are all changing their votes
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MrCoffee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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7. Pelosi is giving them what the most desire...distance from the WH
why the fuck hasn't Hoyer gaveled this farce down?
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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11. maybe he and DK are going at it in the cloakroom
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:35 PM
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16. Yup... lovely.
While the dems give the "no difference" team all the ammo they could ever dream of... on top of Mukasey... on top of war funding... etc. etc. etc. etc.

"Disgusting" doesn't even come close.
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:33 PM
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9. wow am I really going to have to thank my congressman for voting nay?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:34 PM
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12. There may be
other reasons.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:35 PM
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15. well this is my theory...
What is yours?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:42 PM
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30. Mine is
simply that there may be more going on than meets the eye. I do not disagree with what you are saying.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:36 PM
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18. Maybe they realize this is one vote for which they WILL be held accountable
at such time all the facts are known about Cheney.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:40 PM
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26. after spending hours watching CSPAN, the Repukes dont care about accountability
Not over 100 of them.

This is pure politics.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:35 PM
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17. Yep, when the question of accountability comes up with their
constituents, they will say, with the vote count/party affiliation in hand, they were for accountability, the Dems were not.

Unbelievable how this seems to continue to happen.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:36 PM
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20. I don't see how it can be viewed any other way.
:shrug:
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:37 PM
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23. Randi is talking about this now, she doesnt know why
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:39 PM
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24. the Dems should start switching now
But then the GOP would switch back.
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:40 PM
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25. But come on, Cheney has an 18% approval rating.
At least Repukes aren't afraid of of Darth Cheney. Just a bunch of cowardly Democrats.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:43 PM
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31. He'll never get impeached - where are the 67 votes in the senate?
Impeachment only IMPROVED Clinton's popularity rating. Do we want to make republicans more popular.

We impeach Cheney without removing him from office it's like we're giving him the biggest joke he'll enjoy telling at cocktail parties.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:49 PM
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32. No, Clinton was popular
Cheney is not.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:56 PM
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34. Clinton gained popular through the impeachment and....
Cheney could have a negative approval rating and we still won't get the 67 votes needed to impeach even if EVERY Democrat, independant and hell Joe Lieberman voted for impeachment. Perhaps we could pull off a few moderate republicans but we still won't get the count to actually remove him
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:41 PM
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27. So Republicans are smart enough
to know they need to be on the side of the constitution but the Democrats don't? Pitiful and disgusting.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:41 PM
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28. The repubs are now voting against the motion to table because
they want to force a vote on the impeachment resolution, which they are confident they will win and hand chimpy a victory
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:42 PM
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29. This is nothing more than a game of Chicken
And republicans are gunning the gas knowing that either (A) The democrats don't have the votes or (B) the democrats get enough votes and then the impeachment will all encompass them for the next year that we lose bigtime in the 2008 elections.

Anyone who thinks these republicans are our heroes knows shit about politics
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:56 PM
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33. If the Dems win now, they win 2008
Edited on Tue Nov-06-07 03:58 PM by rocknation
The only reason not to impeach someone is because he hasn't done anything impeachable. We need a Dem party that's willing to at least TRY to do the right thing.

:patriot:
rocknation
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:58 PM
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36. The right thing is to fight harder against Bush and his damn veto threats
in order to get stuff done.

Republicans started planning the Clinton impeachment back in 2001 with people like Richard Mellon-Scaife and others like him tossing millions of dollars to investigate the Clinton background and find any dirt they could to go after Clinton.

We do not have that on the democratic side along with not having the votes to make it happen.

Dems want to win in 2008 - get s-CHIPS passed and do something about this damn war.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 03:58 PM
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35. I think that the idea of a Cheney impeachment will sell well with the public
the problem us that the media will turn this around on the Dems or at least try to. Should be interesting to watch.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:02 PM
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37. I'd like to see that. (nt)
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:03 PM
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38. How would you explain the Dems who are now changing their votes, also?
Same reasons? To settle the mass approval of Cheney in this country?
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:13 PM
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39. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out - if anything, I think the dems just called the repukes
on their game of chicken
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:23 PM
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41. Apparently, Repub leadership advised to change all those votes...
hoping the resolution would go immediately to debate, to embarrass any Democrats who stood in support of it.

Strange tactics, these House Republicans have. Kucinich is now speaking of the importance of the voice of the American people and the destruction of our Constitution.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 04:14 PM
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40. and there goes my theory, my bad
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