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seafan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:04 PM
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RAW STORY: House Dem defends leadership decision to quash impeachment (Wasserman Schultz)
This is taking off, people!



House Dem defends leadership decision to quash impeachment



Debbie Wasserman Schultz


Nick Juliano
Friday November 9, 2007


A House Democratic leader defended the party's decision not to pursue the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney, saying an effort to oust the man who is among the most vocal pushing for war with Iran is "not even in the top 10" of voters' priorities and would benefit Republicans at the polls next year.

In a heated exchange Thursday with liberal radio host Ed Schultz, Florida Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the deputy Democratic whip, said the party, which dramatically swept into power last year, was more focused on other priorities.

Voters asked Congress "to focus on withdrawing our troops from iraq, on expanding healthcare access. ... They did not ask us to spend any time on the impeachment of the vice president," Wasserman Schultz insisted.

Impeachment would prevent Congress from addressing issues like the war in Iraq, healthcare, renewable energy and the environment.

"That is all the media would focus on. ... And to what end?" she asked, arguing that Bush was the real problem and removing Cheney wouldn't make a significant difference with only a year until the next election.

"We need to tough out the next 12 months and focus hard on the results-oriented Democratic Congress that we know we are," she said.

.....

"This president has gotten everything that he's wanted from the Democratic Congress since the day you folks took power," the host charged.

Schultz said Democrats need to stand firm and refuse to pass any more funding for the war in Iraq; he said Cheney's impeachment might be the country's best hope to avoid war in Iran.

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said Conyer's committee would not begin impeachment hearings, although several members of the committee are co-sponsors of Kucinich's impeachment resolution. Rep. Robert Wexler (D-FL), who's district neighbors Wasserman Schultz's, called for the committee to "schedule impeachment hearings immediately".

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The following audio clip is from the Ed Schultz Show Thusday, Nov. 8.



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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:08 PM
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1. DEMS must show spine against the base & protect Bush from impeachment at all costs.
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 02:09 PM by Dr Fate
I for one am proud of the resolve and profiles in courage shown by DEMS in protecting their president- it takes a lot of spine & blazing gun powder to stand up to those crazy, out of touch people who want to hold Bush accountable under the U.S. Constitution.
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:24 PM
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13. ?
Did you forget this :sarcasm: or something?
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:08 PM
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2. Why does that picture remind me of my kitten pouncing on catnip mouse?
Jesus. What a stupid fucking ignorant woman.

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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:23 PM
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41. If it were in black and white I'd swear it was a picture of Nosferatu.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:09 PM
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3. She doesn't get it
She seems to think the most important priority is to gain favor with voters so as to gain seats in the next election. Not exactly a profile in courage, is it?
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:53 PM
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36. Here's her number in DC. Call her office and tell her what you think.
202-225-7931
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:09 PM
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4. Beltway Dems have such a losing strategy
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 02:10 PM by OzarkDem
Hiding under their desks waiting for the '08 elections makes them appear so weak and dull.

Voters like winners and doers, not weak, frightened people.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:10 PM
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7. Appear? (nt)
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:14 PM
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11. Angling so hard to win makes them look like a bunch of losers-nt
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:09 PM
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5. I've got news for you Debbie...
When you said this: "They did not ask us to spend any time on the impeachment of the vice president," you were either showing, 1. that you are a liar, or 2. you weren't paying attention.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:38 PM
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19. How many congresscritters were elected in nov 06 on platforms that included impeachment?
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:53 PM
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24. Exactly. The public voted for DEMS b/c they wanted us to protect their beloved Bush.
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 03:11 PM by Dr Fate
The public are all aredently behind Bush and the uber-popular Dick Cheney when it comes to holding them accountable on corruption & the war, that is clear.

I agree with your methods- we must show spine and fight hard against pro-impeachment DEMS-we need passionate arguments and talking points like yours that protect Bush from accountability.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:36 PM
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34. wow, what a wonderful way to admit your wrong by making up stuff
I'm always amazed how some people react to facts by throwing out crazy talk. If you have facts to support the claim that impeachment loomed large in the minds of the voters in 2006, you ought to be able to present them. But you haven't and can't because they don't exist. Indeed, a review of pro-impeachment websites that list pro-impeachment candidates pretty much confirms how infrequently impeachment was made an issue (and how even more infrequently the candidate making it an issue won).

So, instead of addressing the facts (or your lack thereof), you go on the attack with crazy talk. This may make you feel good, but it makes you look pretty doggone foolish.

By the way, where in my post (or in any of my posts) have I ever suggested that we fight hard against pro-impeachment Dems. You find one example, and I'll donate $100 to DU.

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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:47 PM
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42. I don't care what THEIR platforms were...
I care what OUR platforms were (and are.)
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 09:35 AM
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43. that's fine. and we should all be pushing our members to do what we want
But assuming that the argument that the 2006 election was about impeachment isn't going to convince any member of Congress who clearly knows otherwise.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:09 PM
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6. Randi Rhodes did the same thing to Wexler yesterday
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 02:12 PM by rocknation
Don't they realize how RIDICULOUS they sound? They're not fooling ANYONE!

:headbang:
rocknation
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:02 PM
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30. Wexler? WHY? He wants impeachment hearings held:
Rep. Wexler Will Urge the Judiciary Committee to Hold Immediate Hearings on Impeachment!!!
Submitted by davidswanson on Wed, 2007-11-07 20:48. Congress

Rep. Robert Wexler sent his constituents this beautiful and admirable Email today:

As a person who supports holding this Administration accountable for their deceptive actions, you may be interested to know about the recent votes in the House regarding H.Res. 333, "Impeaching Richard B. Cheney, Vice President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors."

I share your belief that Vice President Cheney must answer for his deceptive actions in office, particularly with regard to the preparations for the Iraq war and the revelation of the identity of covert agent Valerie Plame Wilson as part of political retribution against her husband. That is why I voted against the motion to table debate on H.Res. 333. Along with only 85 other Democrats, I opposed tabling the measure and supported beginning immediate debate and a vote on the Cheney impeachment resolution. The vote on tabling the Kucinich resolution was rejected, and the House subsequently voted to refer the matter to the Judiciary Committee.

Vice President Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration have demonstrated a consistent pattern of abusing the law and misleading Congress and the American people. We see the consequences of these actions abroad in Iraq and at home through the violations of our civil liberties. The American people are served well with a legitimate and thorough impeachment inquiry. I will urge the Judiciary Committee to schedule impeachment hearings immediately and not let this issue languish as it has over the last six months. Only through hearings can we bring begin to correct the abuses of Dick Cheney and the Bush Administration; and, if it is determined in these hearings that Vice President Cheney has committed High Crimes and Misdemeanors, he should be impeached and removed from office. It is time for Congress to expose the multitude of misdeeds of the Administration, and I am hopeful that the Judiciary Committee will expeditiously begin an investigation of this matter.

Please feel free to contact me if you have any further questions or concerns. I sincerely appreciate your input and hope that you will feel free to contact me anytime I may be of assistance to you. In addition, I hope you find my website (http://wexler.house.gov ) a valuable resource in keeping up with events in Washington and in South Florida.

With warm regards,

Congressman Robert Wexler Signature
Congressman Robert Wexler
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/28504
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:11 PM
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8. I have not been a big Eddie fan, but everyone should
hear his "interview" with Wasserman-Schultz. He took her to the woodshed about impeachment. I'm liking him more every day.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:25 PM
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14. Is she Ed's wife? n/t
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:03 PM
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25. well, no. but if she were, they would definitely need counseling at this point.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:13 PM
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9. Called her office a couple of hrs ago...
He was very polite and he told me he's gotten over 2000 calls in support of impeachment. Keep up the good work people.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:48 PM
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22. How many of them from her district?
It is unlikely that DWS cares much about what people in California thinks.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:13 PM
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10. Hell, the republicans talked about impeaching Clinton the minute he got into office
Then they did it--for lying. What's the effin problem? The guy is a lying criminal. Impeach the fuck.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:17 PM
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12. what a disppointment she turned out to be?
ask her if she wants her children to live a fascist/theocratic dictatorship.
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brazos121200 Donating Member (626 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:27 PM
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15. The Democratic leadership (?) seems to think that impeachment is
a strategy decision, it isn't. The Constitution plainly spells out what constitutes an impeachable offense and lays out the specific steps which they must take. Republicans in the House impeached Clinton in 1998 on virtually no grounds, and still came close enough in the 2000 elections to steal it, so I don't know why the leadership thinks it would be so harmful to their power.
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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:32 PM
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16. You will collaborate
because we in Congress colaborate. Period.

:nuke:
:banghead:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:33 PM
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17. Debbie are you stupid or a liar! If you want action on those issues, then you MUST IMPEACH!
Impeachment is the only thing that these "children of the corn" will understand that will even allow you to get those other issues past him. THAT is why it is so important an issue. It is like having a Joker trump card. You might say in many other contexts a "joker" issue like impeaching them doesn't solve the fundamental issues of the day that affect every day Americans, but because impeachment is the only real "trump card" that puts into check the means that this president has of shutting down everything else you put before him, that means it IS the most important card you can play and you SHOULD prioritize using it.

Americans are starting to get that that is why it is needed. They don't want to blame each other necessarily for voting some of them voting for the bum or not. They know that the problem needs fixing, and that impeachment IS the way to take care of it now, before things really get out of control.

Damn, I wish there was a way we could "smoke out" these fake Dems early on before they get nominated!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:16 PM
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40. There's been some talk she's funded by AIPAC...and if that's true..then war with Iran
is something that she doesn't have a problem with...and that's the reason she would support Cheney...

I've always liked her...but recently she's been very strange...like Pelosi. I never trusted Reid...but thought better of Pelosi..

AIPAC has long tentacles. Wasserman-Schultz might be from a FLA District where her funding has huge support from them. :shrug:
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:36 PM
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18. So According To Her
Impeachment would "would benefit Republicans at the polls next year."

:wtf: That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!:banghead::crazy:

If Cheney's crimes are brought out in the open to the Public people are not
going to want to go running to the Polls to vote another Republican into office! :think:

What a weak pathetic excuse. :eyes:
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:42 PM
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20. 800 862 5530 call Wasserman - I just did and
told them why do they think approval of Congress is down to
11% - we just didnt elect them to stop the war but to restore
the Constitution and that I've worked on every election making
phone calls and more for democrats, but if she doesnt join
Wexler and get out of the way of impeachment, they wont be
winning the 2008 election because people like me wont be
working to get the vote out for them or voting for them.

Tell em where it's at guys.
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:24 PM
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27. Thnaks for the suggestion - I just called and the guy said
he would pass it on to the Congresswoman
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pberq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:43 PM
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21. She should resign and make room for a real Democrat
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 02:49 PM
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23. She was unopposed for reelection in 2006
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:04 PM
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26. This woman used to be my 17 year old daughters hero.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:38 PM
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28. If you're not against their crimes when you have power,
you're complicit.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 03:55 PM
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29. Complicit and Ignorant
The Constitution calls for Impeachment not us! Are our Dem leaders that ignorant of our foundation of laws!?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:12 PM
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31. The more they say they're keeping their powder dry FOR THE ELECTION, the less
I want to vote.
And i am an election integrity advocate, and I always vote. But I hate how they use the election as an excuse for their right wing bullshit.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:16 PM
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32. Vote your conscience and YOUR CLASS
and if the candidate is not a dem, so be it.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:36 PM
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33. My conscience says kucinich. I ahve been leaning edwards though because I relaly think he
an win and would be a fighter for just causes.

But I am disgusted day after day of watching right wing democrats ruin our lives. Feinstein, Lieberman, Hoyer, Pelosi...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 04:39 PM
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35. Then vote your conscience
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 04:39 PM by nadinbrzezinski
they rely on the lesser of two evils disease

Though class wise... DK is the best, but Edwards follows in a very close second
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:09 PM
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38. no, I disagree. i think there is a major difference between hillary and the rest.
I strongly oppose her, and hope everyone will vote for Edwards so we can have a decent leader, even if he is not "perfect". I'm afraid my kucinich vote will help put hillary in, becuase I dont believe America will elect Dennis, no matter how real he is, rather becuase of how real he is.
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 05:00 PM
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37. Maybe we should all send Debbie a huge "THANK YOU!" for ending the war in Iraq
and for the new national health care plan which comes just in time to take over for the health insurance company dropping my family because they "made a business decision" to leave the state. The replacement coverage offered is only nearly three times the current insurance at $1369.69 and a bigger deductible.

And I'm so happy that our troops are coming back. It is a relief to know that I no longer have to worry about a renewal of the draft and my son won't be called up to be cannon fodder.

What's that? They didn't end the war? There is no national health care plan? Nevermind.

Voters asked Congress "to focus on withdrawing our troops from iraq, on expanding healthcare access. ... They did not ask us to spend any time on the impeachment of the vice president," Wasserman Schultz insisted.

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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 06:29 PM
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39. She's worried about the front pages in America?!?!?!?
What kind of excuse is that? I gladly would like to see Impeachment on the front pages. Let the info filter on down to the masses.

Not proceeding with impeachment - not even entertaining impeachment - only tells this administration that they can continue to rape this country in all the creative and illegal ways they have openly and secretly been doing.

Where is her outrage?

She doesn't even pretend to have any remorse for the decision not to proceed with impeachment. If only she'd say something like "yeah, he ought to be impeach, but I think blah, blah, blah is more important for us to blah, blah, blah ...." She's so confident in herself (arrogant) she offers no words of comfort to the people.

I just don't detect any remorse at all.

I know I always say this, but we sure need term limits - something to keep these people from becoming too comfortable with the status quo, help keep them honest, and not so powerful. We need to find a way to assure the people are represented, not special interests, and certainly not the 24/7 perpetual collection of campaign funds.
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