And that, kid, is why you don't throw pencils at police officers from the back of the school bus

And that, kid, is why you don't throw pencils at police officers from the back of the school bus
By adamg - Fri, 11/09/2007 - 2:53pm.

Because the driver of the bus will just stop right there on Dot Ave. and the cop will get on and you'll wind up having to explain to your parents why you now face charges of assault and battery on a police officer, even if you are only 12.

Oh, yeah, and your smart-mouthed 13-year-old friend, the one who tried to keep the cop from grabbing you?

He'll be making a call, too.


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DAILY INCIDENTS FOR FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2007

THROWING STUFF FROM THE BUS NOT SMART

At about 3:00pm, on Thursday, November 8, 2007, an object thrown out the window of a passing school bus struck an officer performing a paid detail in the area of 1800 Dorchester Avenue. The object, a wooden pencil, struck the officer in the face.

After the object was thrown, the school bus came to a stop. When the officer approached the bus, the driver opened the door and said, “They’ve been throwing things out the whole ride.”

The officer observed four black males sitting inside the bus. The driver then pointed to one of the four individuals and stated, “He just threw something.” As the officer approached the suspect, the suspect ran to the back of the bus.

While the officer made his way towards the suspect, the other three individuals began yelling and swearing at the officer. One of the individuals even stepped in front of the officer so as to block him from apprehending the suspect.

Officers arrested a 12 year-old from Dorchester and charged him with Assault on a Police Officer and Resisting Arrest. Officers also arrested a 13 year-old from Dorchester and charged him with Disorderly Conduct and Resisting Arrest.

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http://www.bpdnews.com/2007/11/daily_incidents_for_friday_nov.html

:P

The term 'police state' has very little, if anything, to do with individual police officers.

That's probably one of the most misused terms on DU.

Sounds like you could use a bit of a brush-up, however.

If you think that the OP is indicative of a police state, you quite clearly don't know what it means.

:rofl:

but carry on with your idiocracy, it's ever so amusing.

Who are you again? :shrug:

don't thank a teacher.

If you're not, you seriously think the cop 'over-reacted'?

Then we'll talk.

The were charged with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest.

My 20 year old nephew was arrested for drinking beer in his dorm room. Literally arrested. He's mostly white.

I don't mean to minimize the problems minority kids face. It's unfortunately a very real thing. But I don't think being an apologist for bad behavior helps much either.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm gonna be pretty surprised if that's not a felony.

What a plan!

Just how far did they think they could run on a school bus?

And the kid that stepped in front of the cop...

I'm not even touching on that.

Or new bus policies.

the kids deserve everything they get and probably more dammit. What if they would have thrown the same pencil at your wife and hit her in the face? You'd be screaming that the cops have to do something. The bus driver did the right thing by pulling over and letting the cop do his job.

a voice of reason? what up with that

The bus driver was probably grateful for any assist because he or she would have been named as a defendant and cited for failure to do the job if anything thrown had resulted in injury or damage. The unfortunate truth is, despite cameras and attendants on some buses, and zero-tolerance school transportation policies, some bus-riding kids still can and do get away with horrendous behavior, every day.

Try driving a school bus yourself and tunes will quickly change. The generic "you" have no clue. There's a lot of ha-ha on this thread about pencils as assault weapons and dissing the "police state" here, but the difference is that the projectile, as it were, came flying out of a moving vehicle.

Could have just as easily gone winging into the next open car and hit your child in the eye.

Think of the difference between a kid just tossing a rock (kid stuff) or specifically, tossing it off an overpass (police can and should be involved).

Unless you're volunteering to just laugh it off if you or a loved one are the victim of one of these kinds of "pranks?"

in the 1970s. I guess his methods have been picked up by the new police state.

More like maybe this will teach the kids they're not as tough as they think they are.

Maybe you haven't been paying attention to the things kids pull in this era. They need to be knocked down a peg sometimes and this is the best way to do it. Noone was hurt, but they will be chewed out for weeks by their parents now. Awesome.

Kids these days! With their throwing things from bus windows and their not staying off my lawn!

Oh flibbety floo!

because its going to be hell if he keeps driving those kids.

another argument for kids walking to school.

hit people with the junk they throw out the window of a moving bus.

Msongs

PS - why was it necessary to give the race of the students?

Just to remind the good folk of America about how savage and uncivilized those darkies are.

These kids should be walking to school for the rest of the year. They should get the shit scared out of them, and then charges should be dropped.

How can people fault the bus driver, when the little bastard is ready to take on a cop?

--IMM

Where exactly did he think he was going to go?:eyes:

Man, the tales she tells are DEPRESSING. Kids calling teachers 'bitch' or worse and saying things like 'it just takes one bullet to shut you up'. There are so many *serious* discipline problems that stuff like this just has to slide. I don't know how she goes to work each day.

someone deliberately threw at it while driving you know it's not fun.

OK- This started with pencils, then what?
Has anyone ever been hurt by a projectile pencil? Yep!

We have morons throwing large rocks from freeway overpasses
onto the cars below!

At what point does it escalate from " just throwing things" to assault?

Been there, it's no fun.

;(

I have no problem with the bus driver stopping/ the officer boarding. I'm not sure it should be a felony, but that is for the court to decide.

While the officer made his way towards the suspect, the other three individuals began yelling and swearing at the officer. One of the individuals even stepped in front of the officer so as to block him from apprehending the suspect

I'm sure that this a one time incident or misunderstanding and they'll all be fine upstanding citizens one day.

:sarcasm:

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The kids need to have a message sent. Now, not when they're 18 and robbing a convenience store.

stupidity is typically the result...

Especially the middle-schoolers, for some reason. The things I've heard, seen, had happen to me as parent volunteer would curl your hair. And parents make excuses for them, get upset and threaten lawsuits if baby darling's bus or other privileges are suspended or revoked.

As for this crew, they all needed at least a short break, with the thrower and cop challenger getting top "honors."

The kids are out of control because they're parents make excuses for them and defend them no matter what they do rather than hold the kids accountable and make them take responsibility . As I've said before, this is what trickle down economics and a ME society results in. We're raising a nation of George Bushes.

I wonder what caliber it was? A semiautomatic No. 2?

Read a fucking book :eyes:
Can't you tell an assault pencil from those semi-auto #2's?

Pencil ban. Think of the children! CALL CONGRESS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!!