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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:49 PM
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Post quotes of our forefathers, that relate to saving our democracy today
I'll start:

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."
---James Madison
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:52 PM
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1. Not exactly from a "forefather," but you can always read my sig.
I really think it's an important one.
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 07:57 PM
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2. that's a great one! Edward R. Murrow was a great american. nt
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:00 PM
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3. Thomas Jefferson, a very wise man, has plenty to offer ...
"A Bill of Rights is what the people are entitled to against every government, and what no just government should refuse, or rest on inference."

"All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent."

"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."

"Conquest is not in our principles. It is inconsistent with our government."

"Educate and inform the whole mass of the people... They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."

"Every generation needs a new revolution."

"Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories."

"Experience hath shown, that even under the best forms of government those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny."

"I abhor war and view it as the greatest scourge of mankind."

"I am mortified to be told that, in the United States of America, the sale of a book can become a subject of inquiry, and of criminal inquiry too."

"I hope we shall crush in its birth the aristocracy of our monied corporations which dare already to challenge our government to a trial by strength, and bid defiance to the laws of our country."

"I know of no safe depository of the ultimate powers of the society but the people themselves; and if we think them not enlightened enough to exercise their control with a wholesome discretion, the remedy is not to take it from them but to inform their discretion."

"I never will, by any word or act, bow to the shrine of intolerance or admit a right of inquiry into the religious opinions of others."

"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it."

"If the present Congress errs in too much talking, how can it be otherwise in a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything, yield nothing, and talk by the hour?"

"It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape."

"Liberty is to the collective body, what health is to every individual body. Without health no pleasure can be tasted by man; without liberty, no happiness can be enjoyed by society."

"My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government."

"Our country is now taking so steady a course as to show by what road it will pass to destruction, to wit: by consolidation of power first, and then corruption, its necessary consequence."

"Peace and friendship with all mankind is our wisest policy, and I wish we may be permitted to pursue it."

"The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

"The way to silence religious disputes is to take no notice of them."

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."



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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:03 PM
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4. From Dwight Eisenhower
'Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid".

And I'll add this...
They subverted the republican party and
They also stole the USA away from We the People.
They're not stupid, but they are assholes.
They are criminals one and all.
And it appears they are going to get away with it scott free.
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Sancho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 08:30 PM
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5. Albert Einstein: not exactly a forefather, but a true pacifist...
"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

"It may affront the military-minded person to suggest a reqime that does not maintain any military secrets."

"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despiceable an ignoreable war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

"You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war."
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boston bean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:55 AM
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6. I like that fourth one... wow! I wish someone had the guts to say it today! nt
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:58 AM
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7. WE DO NOT HAVE A DEMOCRACY
You do not have any right to vote in Federal elections. For proof see the Supremes decision in the Bush v Gore race. Your right to vote is contained in your state constitution and not all states constitutionally grant that right.

I am not saying this is good or bad - only that it is.
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