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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 09:57 PM
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Please talk to me about primary states, and how other states effect
Edited on Fri Nov-09-07 09:57 PM by babylonsister
(or jeeze, affect?) their votes. Say I live in Texas and vote for Kucinich. Does anyone think it would matter, besides personal satisfaction? How will my vote in TX influence any other votes? Or am I SOL?

What if I live in NY or CA?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:01 PM
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1. Each Primary Is A Different Animal
An Iowa caucus is vastly different than an election in New Hampshire as is one in South Carolina. Each is run by the state party and all they care about these days is getting their primaries to matter...to move them up on the calendar to give their primaries some relevence. Say, if Kucinich wins big in Iowa that doesn't carry over, except for momentum, into any other primary...votes and delegates aren't negotiable.

Personally, I still plan to not vote for any candidate for the Presidential primary and focus stricly on the down ticket races.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:10 PM
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3. But there are the 'big' primaries vs. the primaries. Are votes
from other states incorporated into the big primaries? And I have to vote; I have to try to get rid of Cornyn next year. I tried to get Lampson voted in last year in DeLay's spot; it worked, but he's a blue dog, so I feel like I accomplished nothing. :mad:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:18 PM
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4. Actually You're Voting For Delegates
Each state's primary rules are different, but pretty much work out that half or so of the state's allocated delegates (as determined by the party on the whole) is selected in the primary or caucus...the rest are passed out to party members, such as congresscritters, party chairman and other aparachniks. While winning Iowa in itself means little as far as delegates (or New Hampshire for that matter), it's the momentum these primaries hold that get the attention. February 5th is the big day...when New York, California, Illinois and a bunch of other large states cast votes. I suspect we'll know our nominee the next day.

Here's hoping you are able to get rid of Cronyism...I know it'll be a tough campaign, but I've been following the DA (I think that's who it is)...who looks like he may give Cornyn a challenge.

I live with a Blue Dog here as well...and trying to get her outsted with a Progressive in the Primary. But honestly, do you think Lampson is no better than the Hammer? At least Sugarland is a little friendlier now than it was in the past. Keep the faith and keep working...change is happening. It took us 6 years to turn this red district purple/blue and I suspect in time that will happen your way as well.

Cheers...
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:21 PM
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6. If that's true, I'm not voting. Really. I have to find out more info. But thanks! nt
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 10:09 PM
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2. I tried to be a Brown delegate at convention and my vote was omitted
It was at county level going to state. I tried to use Robert's Rules of Order and was ignored. I tried to challenge the chair and was bullied by a fellow "Democrat" and my vote allotted to the pro-NAFTA Clinton nominee.

We won but were sold down the river for strawberries.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:01 PM
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5. So, if I vote for Kooch, will it matter??? nt
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-09-07 11:45 PM
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7. OK, what if I vote for Hillary?
:rofl:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:39 AM
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8. So no one knows, on this dem forum? That's not good. nt
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:28 AM
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9. If you are in Texas
what matters is showing up at the precinct convention after the polls have closed on the day of the primary. Delegates to the county convention will then be chosen on the basis of the candidate tallies. Even if you were the only DK voter in your precinct, in the majority of precints there is such a scarcity of potential delegates that you can easily be selected as a county delegate. Now the hard part is riding herd on the county party machinery, because in most Texas counties, the local machinery doesn't actually want any involvement on the part of new blood, despite what they say. You have to find out who your county chair is, and keep calling to find out location and time of the county convention. (If you live in a county where this isn't the norm, you just don't know how lucky you are.) Once at the county convention, chances are pretty good that you will at least be chosen as an alternate delegate. This generally means that you will be a real delegate, because by the time the state convention rolls around, people have other things they'd rather do. Also, at the each level of convention, you have the chance to vote on proposals to send along to the national convention. Even if you don't get selected as a state delegate or alternate, you may very well be able to get some of DK's platform adopted at the county level. And maybe even at the state level, if you get that far.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:58 AM
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11. This is the right answer
And, babylonsister, please drop by the Texas forum -- I see you are in Houston -- JohnCoby and several other good DU'ers would be delighted to see you!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:41 AM
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10. It's all a shell game, with primary dates being shuffled around
and states engaged in a pissing contest over who can best subvert the admittedly crappy way things were done last time around. I've stopped paying attention to any primary date but Georgia's. Of course, it's not too moonbat insane to worry that my primary vote will go the same way as my vote in the general: straight into a shredder. If I were voting in the state, it would be worse, though at least more environmentally friendly, thanks to Ms. Cox's Diebold pals.

My primary vote might not matter in the squalid scheme of things, but that's all the more reason why I figure I might as well vote for the candidate I think outshines the rest of the field. It matters to me, at least.

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