Larry Kings program last night had people who say on Nov 12 info re UFOS will be made public..

I predict that Cheney will take off his rubber human suit and just come out and say the dark planet has now taken over the us...I cant really be shocked anymore..but Nov 12 seems like a good day to shock the crap out of the rest of the nation..get ready..

"Move along. There is nothing to see here."

- Commander AWOL & Cabal of Corrupt Republicon Homelander Alien Goon Allies

Saw where the big money was I guess, and abandoned any pretense of progressive ideals.

Isn't he current Halliburton's CEO?

:-) MKJ

Talk about Alien -- she is now alien to America, and has apparently become a Homelander. Ugh.

About anything????People apparently have their minds made up on this issue and nothing will cange their views. Credible people have seen incredible things, too bad so many make light of that....

I started a thread about this earlier in the week.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2215902

Last night's show had no new revelations, except from the filmmaker named Fox who said that information on the planet Jupiter has been classified by the CIA! That pretty much blew me away!

The panel did say that many governments around the world have declassified their UFO information and, of course, our government is the most resistent to disclosure, but that is changing and more information will be disclosed starting with the Nov 12 event.

was notified from ground radar that something was on his tail. He chased a zooming light around the sky and it vanished. When he got on the ground and reported to his commander, he was told, "This did not happen," his report was deep-sixed and all records of it were expunged.

Could be they (the AF) were experimenting on HIM, with some new toy. Or....?

Lots of pilots and other trained observers have seen inexplicable things. And the more planets that are found orbiting suns, and the more water we find in our own solar system, and the more unusual non-oxygen-based lifeforms we find on earth (like those at the bottom of the sea, recently discovered), the more astronomically do the chances increase that we are not--and really cannot be (give the numbers, the probabilities)--alone in the universe, neither in our galaxy. It's only a matter of time before we connect with other sentient life not of this world. And it is not really that far out to believe that we have been visited, or are being watched.

Do you want to know something strange, that occurred to me? Human literature has always been written in the past or present tense--mostly past tense. ("Once upon a time..."). Set in the past, often distant past. And just before the 20th century began, the first stories began to be written about the FUTURE. We take this for granted, now. But this has been only a one hundred year time span from humans who were past-oriented, to humans who are routinely future-oriented. For tens of the thousands of years before H.G. Wells (I think was the first), we didn't really think about the future, except maybe to store up enough grain for next year. (And some indigenous cultures think and plan to the "7th generation.")

And now we have not only a whole library full of science fiction, guessing what it's going to be like a hundred or a hundred thousand years from now, but we have all the many Star Treks, and Star Wars, and Farscapes, and Battlestar Galacticas, and Stargates (well, somewhat about the past, but speculative about the impact of the past on a future contemporary discovery), and any number of future-oriented POPULAR entertainments.

Is that not strange? A major shift in human consciousness, and we hardly notice it or think about it.

I think the shock is going to be that, when Galactic Civilization finally gets round to us, and its diplomats arrive and say, "Take me to your leader" (in so many words), they are just going to laugh, when they are presented with *, and go off to South America for a visit with Evo Morales, Hugo Chavez and Rafael Correa--the most advanced and civilized leaders on the planet.

the general consensus was that the government, namely the military industrial complex, didn't want to lose control and also embarassment after all these years of hiding secrets from the people.

I have had thoughts for some years now that when much of the truth comes out that we will find out that we have had no freedom at all, but instead have been like prisoners, i.e. "The Village" - that we have had to live like primitive slaves when we could have been in the Garden of Eden all the time.

Edited for clarification

The Matrix being a good example of the reverse. What we see around us is an illusion, and what's behind it is...ugh! Not-nice!

There was a Stargate, using your premise. The SG-1 team gets kidnapped, their memories masked over, and consigned to slave labor beneath a planet surface that they believe to be frozen. Their bosses tell them that they must keep the steam engines going, to preserve their civilization through this "ice age." And on they work--hard, sweaty work. It's quite fun, as they SG-1 "slaves" (a real smart physicist, a real smart archeologist, etc.), reconnect with each other and start remembering who they are, and what they know to do (working as a team, for one thing). Good story-telling. And it turns out that the "master race," above ground, is living in paradise (or a very nice planet), and LYING to the slaves below the surface, cuz they don't want to integrate these grubby working types into their "perfect" little society.

Got to watch out for paranoia, though, lest this idea grip you too tightly. Our lot seems to be to keep a firm grip on the here and now, and on our commonly accepted reality, until we know otherwise--or until we can CREATE something better. Make your life a "Garden of Eden" in whatever ways you can, and maybe slowly it will become one.

Totally agree with everything you wrote.

This very Gnostic "theory" of which we both speak is nothing new - Plato wrote about it in the allegory of the cave.

Surfing is now my metaphor for life - balance while riding the waves and enjoy the ride!

Paranoia/fear really suck - I've had enough of those old ways, but it took me traveling the nine circles of hell to get to where I at least have some realization of the illusion and I appreciate your connecting with this realization.

Thanks again for your sage advise and safe journey.

And somehow it never seems to materialize. One can't take such statements very seriously.