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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:20 PM
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Why does MSM seem to hate John Edwards?
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:23 PM
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1. Anyone?
Anyone at all...
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:25 PM
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2. As has been expressed here many times before
the media hates any Dem candidates with a real chance of winning.
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM
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25. precisely.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:26 PM
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3. He represents the middle class interests.
He is proposing economic and trade policy that will benefit the American middle and lower classes and not just the rich and powerful corporations that own the media.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:28 PM
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4. Because he could win? And because he would challenge them? Remember
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:30 PM by saracat
unlike our front runner who takes money from Rupert Murdoch and FOX, Edwards led the fight refusing to participate in a FOX moderated and produced Debate. He also refuses to appear on FOX. It also appears The GE Network has ties to Hill as well, so they wouldn't be fans of Edwards either.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:31 PM
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8. I could not agree more.
I will be seeing him next weekend at a town hall in Reno Nv. Any ideas for questions?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:54 PM
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21. Why is Clinton's 20K from Murdoch a sin, while your 500K makes you a saint?"
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:54 PM by MethuenProgressive
:rofl:
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:55 PM
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33. Please ask Edwards where our troops will sleep
where they'll get gasoline, and where they'll get hot meals when Edwards has them running combat missions in Iraq out of Kuwait.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:09 PM
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38. The same way they get them now as they travel through distant points of Iraq.
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 02:12 PM by saracat
The same way we got access to those items in any distant campaign. But at leastwe will no longer be "occupiers and invaders".We would be giving the Iraqis a chance to defend themselves.We ought not to have permanent occupation staus.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:53 PM
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20. "Murdoch's News Corp: Edwards benefits from book deal with company"
Edwards is a huge hypocrite.
Clinton: $20,000. Edwards $500,000.00

Murdoch's News Corp: Edwards benefits from book deal with company

http://edwardstracker.blogspot.com/2007/08/murdochs-news-corp-edwards-benefits.html


WASHINGTON (AP) -- Rupert Murdoch's News Corp. is fighting back against Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards and his criticism of the media empire, pointing out that the 2004 vice presidential nominee was paid $500,000 by one of its companies.

HarperCollins, which is owned by News Corp., paid the former North Carolina senator a $500,000 advance for his book, "Home: The Blueprints of Our Lives."

The Edwards campaign said the money was donated to charity and that another $300,000 for expenses was used to pay researchers and other costs to write the book.

The figures were reported by the Murdoch-owned New York Post on Friday, a day after Edwards challenged his rivals to return political donations from News Corp. executives. Edwards said the Fox News Channel, owned by News Corp., has a right-wing bias and "the time has come for Democrats to stop pretending to be friends with the very people who demonize the Democratic Party."

Edwards' criticism was chiefly aimed at Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton, who has taken more than $20,000 in donations from Murdoch and other News Corp. executives.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:47 PM
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29. . Edwards wrote a book.His money came from book sales. Hill's 20k is a campaign contribution .
Kate's money was an editing fee. Harper Collins just happens to be owned a If you can't see the difference it is sad.BTW, Edwards contributed his book money to charity. And Hill's campaign contribution went to her campaign. Another huge differnce.You are also not mentioning the fundraiser Rupert threw for her.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:53 PM
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32. I don't see any difference
Neither candidate put the money in their pocket. Both of them used it to accomplish goals.

The only difference is that Edwards likes to point fingers about stuff he does himself.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:59 PM
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34. What did Hill do or is she going to do for her money? And the money she got was a
"personal" contribution from Murdoch, not "earned income" from a publishing house.And you don't see a difference? Edwards has not taken any campaign contributions from Murdoch.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:56 PM
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42. Taken $500,000 from one of Murdoch's companies? Provided he
drove as hard a bargain as he could, that's got to read very, very well in his CV!
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Astrad Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:30 PM
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5. Because he talks about poverty
Since discussions of class are essentially forbidden in mainstream television, they have no way of framing this issue. There eyes glaze over. It bores them. Discussions of poverty also contradict the aspirational nature of television advertising. Advertising sells us the message there's a world of opportunity out there. The poverty issues sullies that message.

My two cents! :)

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:56 PM
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22. i think you may be pretty much right on
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:30 PM
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6. because....
All of the MSM outlets are all owned by the same four or five multimedia conglomerate companies and they are ALL tied in with our corporo-fascist powers that be. Bottom line is they are all scared to death of Edwards and actively working to shut down his message because he won't play their game. I'm counting on the good caucus-goers of Iowa to change all that. If he wins Iowa-- and I think he can.... and will win-- then we got us a different ball game.

John Edwards would be a President of the People, and FOR the People of this country. His heart belongs to the little guy and he would radically change the status quo in Washington and they all know it. He and Kucinich would both be phenomenal presidents, but Edwards can win it. I'd be willing to bet Kucinich would be his Secretary of State or in a position of importance in an Edwards administration. Then he could have Gore as his Secretary of Energy.

That's just me talking of course, but a girl can dream.....
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:32 PM
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10. No way I could have said it better!
Nicely done.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:37 PM
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13. When you see him, please ask him....
How he would stand up for our Constitution and how he would begin to reverse the damage done by the Bush administration. As much as I know Edwards wants to stand up for the middle class, I want to know what he would do to shut down the torture prisons and return us to the founding principles of this nation. I don't hear him speak enough about that.

Then come back and tell us what he says.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:59 PM
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23. I will.
And ty for the reply.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:30 PM
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7. Maybe Corporate Media hates him because it fears him?
:shrug:
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:31 PM
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9. Because he speaks out against K-Street and speaks up for the middle and working classes
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:04 PM
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36. And he has made some pretty big corporations (ADVERTISERS) pay some big settlements
He has made some enemies in corporate places by winning in court... winning for the little guy and making corporate entities who behave badly pay dearly for the vile actions.
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:35 PM
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11. They know he's the most electable democrat running!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:36 AM
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49. Exactly! He's intimidating that way.
Edwards is a potential threat, if he's allowed to get momentum.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:36 PM
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12. Because the Corporate Media works for the people who are getting rich ...
... as poor, working class, and middle Americans are getting ground to dust
by the policies Edwards wants to change.

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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:38 PM
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14. k+r
:kick:
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:39 PM
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15. Ty
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PATRICK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:47 PM
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16. You mean the way
they seem to hate Gore, Bill, Hillary(unless it suits the game plan otherwise), DK etc.? He's in good company. Pick a reason from all the good things about Dems and all about the lousy bad things about rotten and bogus American journalism.

Concentrated effort by the media depends on the individual threat to their masters.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:50 PM
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17. It just seems to me...
That JE and DK get the brunt of the negative press. I find it telling.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:50 PM
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18. because the MSM whores are scared shitless of Edwards!..just like the Cia
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 12:51 PM by flyarm
and military industrial complex was scared shitless of JFK..they fear this southern white man who is an accomplished attorney ,..who is smart..and sophisticated, and has his fingers on the pulse of what has gone so wrong..in this nation..he knows who pulls the strings..the bildebergs, the trilateral group, the CFR and he is not a regular in their camps..after running for VP he knows who owns who..and he scares the bee gee bees out of the power hungry filth that makes up washington!

He knows the "octopus"...

fly
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Stardust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:11 AM
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44. This one?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 12:52 PM
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19. John Edwards is not considered a Centrist DLCer
Whether we are willing to admit it or not: as the party is now
structured, only a DLCer can be our candidate for the POTUS.
Conventional Wisdom tells the Centrist can best appeal to both
GOP and Democrats. Whether, for example, Obama identifies
himself as a Centrist, I have no clue. If you note how he
is running, he takes Centrist Positions on Issues that matter.
I do not know if Hilary would identify herself as a Centrist.
Her Husband was one of the founders of DLC, it is assumed she
is DLC, Centrist. The Media regards the DLC as the authority
in Party. Therefore, there is almost a collaboration(intentional
or not) that any candidate who does not meet the approval of
DLC--is not going to be treated fairly by the Media. The DLC
believes in the idea of Elite Ruling Class. Populism is verboten.
Edwards is running as populist, therefore he is breaking all the
rules. The truth is the TELEVISION Media influence elections
beyond belief.

IMO, Edwards is the one candidate running as a true Democrat.
There is no calling for real Democrats by the powers that be.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:37 PM
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26. well in St Pete Fla..the progressives just won seats in the county government ..over the DLC'ers
put forward by the county and state party..

yes the progressives wiped the the smile off of the DLC!

fly
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:39 PM
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39. The AMAZING thing about Edwards is this:
He appeals to Republicans. He's not a DLCer and he's not a centrist, but I'll be damned if I haven't encountered a whole lot of Republicans who have said they would have voted for him if it had been an Edwards/Kerry ticket. For that reason and more, John Edwards should be the one that all of us progressives rally around. He can win Iowa and he will be the voice of the People. What more could we ask for???

It's DO or DIE right about now....
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:13 PM
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24. Edwards is not in the pocket of their corporate owners
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:41 PM
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27. He's a populist and not working in the best interest of the corporations.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:46 PM
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28. Because he can win, and doesn't fit the stereotype of Dems they are told to reinforce
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:49 PM
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30. It would be because they are catching on
Edwards is a liar and a phony.

But the media isn't after Edwards. They are after Hillary and use Edwards and his lies and distortions to get her.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:52 PM
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31. He's too clean
No dirt or scandals.

The guy was picked clean by the Jesse Helms machine and Karl Rove, and the only thing they can diss the guy about is his hair. That's got to tell you something.

The MSM will only be interested in him if a sex scandal happens.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:00 PM
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35. And they tried that recently.It didn't fly. No one believes John would cheat on Elizabeth.
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:05 PM
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37. John Edwards would UNITE the left and center.
Hillary Clinton will divide the left and center and mobilize every backwoods, hellfahr 'n' brimstone rapture-right nutcase out from under their porch steps in droves for the sole purpose of "stickin' it to them anti-Murkin commeh Clintons once and fer all!!!!". That's pretty much why they're marginalizing a populist candidate and propping up the one who'll play ball.

Candidates that cater to the PEOPLE'S needs aren't part of their plan. Their plan is to guide the voters, through massive publicity, polls and albeit temporary praise, to their shining beacon known as Madam Windsock.
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AmBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:41 PM
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40. Amen to THAT!! n/t
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 07:52 PM
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41. They fear him.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:54 PM
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43. No that they see this...
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:12 AM
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45. He's mentioned he wants to fix the media
Howard Dean said the same thing.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:15 AM
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46. Jeff Cohen wrote a good column on this
"Are media out to get John Edwards?"
Give me a break about John Edwards' pricey haircut, mansion, lecture fees and the rest. The focus on these topics tells us two things about corporate media. One we've long known -- that they elevate personal stuff above issues. The other is now becoming clear -- that they have a special animosity toward Edwards.

Is it hypocritical for the former Senator to base a presidential campaign on alleviating poverty while building himself a sprawling mansion? Perhaps. But isn't that preferable to all the millionaire candidates who neither talk about nor care about the poor? Elite media seem more comfortable with millionaire politicians who identify with their class -- and half of all U.S. senators are millionaires.

Trust me when I say I don't know many millionaires. Of course I don't know many presidential candidates either (except my friend Dennis Kucinich, whose net worth in 2004 was reported to be below $32,000.)


more:
http://www.alternet.org/story/52764/


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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:24 AM
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47. He's a liberal . . . not part of the establishment, really ---
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:29 AM
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48. If Edwards is nominated, expect a MAJOR war on him; every filthy trick immaginable ---!!!
Almost 20 years ago, as GOP began to roll back taxes on corporations ....
Mario Cuomo -- speech/C-span --- commented that if we wanted THEN to minimally increase taxes on corporations . . . "we'd probably have to call out the militia."

There's a lot at stake for these people --- and it's a violent crowd.

I hope Democrats here understand that --- !!!

As Mark Crispin Miller --- author, Professor --- has said often:
"These people will as soon kill you as look at you . . . "


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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-12-07 01:39 AM
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50. Because he is sounding like a populist...
...and they really, really hate populists.
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