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Jamnt Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:26 PM
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A sick graph..you really need to look at this
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:30 PM
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1. K&R-- that is awesome, and frightening, and incredibly sad....
WOW. That makes a point.
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM
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2. I'd also like to see war spending compared to health care and education spending.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:50 PM
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9. Me too! nt
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM
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3. K & R,
Truly frightening how stupid we have become as a nation.


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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM
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4. Real U.S. priorities. n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:34 PM
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5. oh gosh
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:38 PM
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6. Yes it is sick to believe that America was con'ed into believing that
...war would somehow make America stronger in the world
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:59 AM
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37. Too many people still believe that.
"We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here." :banghead:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:48 PM
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7. This is the point Democrats really need to hit on. Republicans don't mind if they hear about
someone else dying but if they think it's hitting their pocket book they will turn against the war in droves.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:49 PM
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8. So after you add all this up how much are we really paying for a gallon of gas?
Can anyone do the math on that?
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:56 PM
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10. I'd like to see the profit graph for Exxon, Mobile, and other gas/oil companies
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:56 PM
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11. But--terra terra terra!
Solar power won't stop those evul terraists. :sarcasm:
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:57 AM
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36. I'll get my tinfoil hat on.
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 10:57 AM by danagsk8
:tinfoilhat:
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:16 PM
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12. In the mean time, the Oil companie are making more money than EVER

Think about the fact that we pay about $3 a gallon for gas right now however we will eventually have to pay for this war with our taxes which is projected to cost 2 trillion. 300 million into 2 trillion comes close to $7,000 per person. That means gas is really closer to probably $10 or $15 a gallon right now. The cost benefit analysis of this war shows it's been a complete disaster for regular people, however the big oil and gas corporations LOVE instability because they can jack up the prices which is why their profits are skyrocketing! If you can control the flow of oil like you control the flow of diamonds, then you can control the prices which is what is going on. The oil companies want to control the oil supply and shut off some of the spickets, so they can control the supply and cost, and rip us off. When we took over Iraq's oil fields the first thing they did was shut off the spickets so they could increase the price of gas.

In a nut shell, the average person is losing $7,000 on this war while the big oil companies are making out like bandits. It's atransfer of wealth from the average Jo to the disgustingly rich.
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riderinthestorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:23 PM
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13. Powerful and disturbing
I just forwarded your link to everyone in my address book. Thanks for posting it.
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:28 PM
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14. Thanks for posting that.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 02:57 PM
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15. Oil mongering - what's the point again?
So perhaps $3 trillion would have solved the US's energy demands. The leader of that project would have become one of the most famous and revered people in human history.

Instead, we end up with a bunch of thugs who are not only pocketing oil profits but also making the rest of the world fear and hate us. Said thugs also wish not to pay taxes and otherwise give a virutal "screw you; I got mine" to everybody else. They should be congratulated for having become among the most notorious and despised people in human history, cultivating their love of themselves and their money in place of everything else.

The humanity haters. What a waste of life.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:03 PM
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16. K&R
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Greyskye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:25 PM
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17. Needs to be seen by a lot more people
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:47 PM
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18. Yep! Kick
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:52 PM
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19. Check this out


That $2,000,000,000,000? Well, that amount of money could’ve built solar thermal plants here that would have provided energy for 2/3rds of our nation’s energy demand: http://www.solarpowerrocks.com/solar-politics/how-far-could-68b-go-in-securing-our-ener


The fact is we don't want to solve our energy problem. Those in power fear we can become self sufficient and put them out of business.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:09 AM
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31. And in the name of religion! Isn't it all about power? Greed is just the by-product.
Every dog has his day
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:55 PM
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20. "These figures are in millions"
That's really scary.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:59 PM
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21. knr.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:01 PM
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22. Like fighting for the last scrap of bubble gum that's going to keep the dike from
gushing.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 06:44 PM
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23. Kick
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 08:44 PM
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24. Our biggest export is
death and destruction....doesn't the Pentagon take 40% of the government's budget, not including the CIA, NSA and others?

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rucognizant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:07 AM
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34. Also.........
They took the 78 BILLION dollars collected from YOUR Social security taken from your paycheck this past year. They sure as hell aren't giving it to me! I get $3.50 per hour to live on.
Now let me go I am headed to the Irving station 15 miles away to get a 2 gallon can of diesel fuel to pour into my heater tank! ( 16 hours of heat ) I am paying .50c a gallon more than I would be for a delivery, but I can't afford the minimum of 50 gallons! I signed up for LIHEAP back in early August; the feds just released the funds; 79% less than lat year............
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 04:48 PM
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46. I'm sorry to hear of your
troubles. Hope you will get some help soon.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 08:48 PM
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25. We need new priorities, big time. (n/t)
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:37 PM
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26. What a waste....
Any way you cut it, this lie-based, Bush catastrophe has caused our nation so much
in soldiers' lives, in pain and suffering of the Iraqi people. My God their country
is unrecognizable, and has been ripped to shreds.

And as this graph shows, the money we've wasted is so devastating.

This lie is a waste of everything. It's so fricking sad.

We're supposedly the ones who hate the soldiers and the military--because we
disagree with a lie-based, pointless war. Yet, we would never lie the soldiers
into believing that they are fighting for a good cause--using them as cannon
fodder for a perverse neocon agenda.

This war is nothing but a bottomless pit of losses. It's just devastating.
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colorado_ufo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:52 PM
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27. Left me slack-jawed!
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Solar_Power Donating Member (422 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:56 PM
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28. If the $1 trillion of Iraq war costs were spent on solar power
we'd be using 0 gallons of oil for electricity generation and crude would be less than $25/barrel
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:34 AM
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29. Gawd. Scale that to fit one screen, the first 4 would be invisible.
:eyes:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:44 AM
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30. "Smirk, smirk, smirk" - Commander AWOL & Republicon Homelander oil cronies
"Whoooopeeee ! Smirk, smirk, smirk" - Commander AWOL & Republicon Homelander oil cronies

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Summer93 Donating Member (439 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:11 AM
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32. Perspective
Yesterday I stopped at the local 5 & Dime store, a rarity now. As I am disabled I parked in the posted parking slot. When I came out of the store the re was a woman and child getting into a Hummer in the slot next to me. I could not see that there was anything disabled about her or her child and there was no one else in the vehicle. When she pulled away I could see that she had also parked in a slot designated for the disabled. Perhaps she didn't bring the disabled person with her that day.

My point I am learning about making concessions to the disease I am dealing with.

There are people who take and those that give. She may have been one of those takers who drives the most ecologically costly vehicle and takes advantage of what is offered to those less fortunate then them and they happily go their way not recognizing what they are doing to their environment.

They have to demonstrate that they are so wealthy the drive a hummer but pinch pennies by shopping at a 5 & Dime.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 09:30 AM
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33. The Manhattan Project cost $23 billion in 2007 dollars.
The Apollo program cost $135 billion.
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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:56 AM
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35. This should be posted in every newspaper in the land, on billboards & Tee Vee!
Perhaps we should all donate to have this done.

Take out ads on the MSM News. If they won't do their job in reporting this in a visual manner like this graph does, then we may have to PAY to save our country. The people who watch the news are VOTERS. Voters who "think" they are informed but...........

Well, you know.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:01 AM
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38. It's nice to see a graph with a non-distorted, completely honest scale
A rare find.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:10 AM
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39. Just goes to show-once again-that BushCo cares NOT AT ALL about
National Security. We'll never be secure as a nation until we develop clean, renewable energy sources for all. But that, of course, would mean that a select few wouldn't be getting fabulously richer right now. Spend 2 Trillion is US tax dollars to make a few hundred billion for Halliburtan, Blackwater, and Exxon-Mobile? You bet! It's not their money anyway-they just have the keys to the treasury and they are going to raid it as much as they can until the money is GONE.
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BREMPRO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:31 AM
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40. a perspective all americans need to see. THey can't hide from the fact
that they have blown our energy future out on their peak oil client "democracy" in Iraq. questions: who got all that money spent on Iraq? defense, halliburton, kbr, blackwater, etc... where does it go, back into Republican party coffers. where is the cheap oil they promised? Bassakwards policy.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:00 PM
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41. Kick & recommend.
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:13 PM
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42. What's really sad is
that when this whole mess started, anyone who pointed out that we went to Iraq for oil was branded a lunatic or a conspiracy theorist. Now that looks very legit compared to going over there for WMD's that don't exist.
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Blackhatjack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:24 PM
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43. Think of the high paying jobs Investing that would have been created investing in alternative energy
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:28 PM
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44. When I was in high school (mid-1970s) there was talk of massive solar farms in
the sunny deserts of the southwest. Whatever happened to that idea? It seems like if we had built those, we wouldn't be in the dire straits we are now.
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 01:37 PM
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45. Bush's mission
to bankrupt the US is well on its way to being accomplished.
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