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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:45 PM
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State mandated Stepford Wives?
Lawmakers look for ways to keep moms at home to strengthen families

Task force blames breakdown of traditional family for social ills

Rep. Steven Thayn and his wife, Sherry, raised eight children on their family farm. She stayed home, and they home-schooled several of their children before eventually sending them to local schools.

Thayn said more two-parent homes and fewer working mothers could be both a social and economic boon. The Emmett Republican sees the breakdown of the traditional family structure as the root of societal ills such as drug abuse, crime and domestic violence.

That's why, as chairman of the Idaho House of Representatives' Family Task Force, he and others are considering controversial solutions such as repealing no-fault divorce laws and finding ways to encourage mothers to stay home with their children.

"In one of the articles I read, quite a large percentage of mothers really do want to spend more time at home, and if that's the case, what can we do to help them?" Thayn said.


Or "The Handmaid's Tale"?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:52 PM
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1. give these mothers a full time salary with benefits and you got it!!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:55 PM
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2. with regular licensing and inspection visits
If we're going to pay stay-at-home parents, we need some kind of quality control.

Would nicely clear up the Britney's of the world.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:15 PM
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9. exactly
caring for children is a job that is paid for if done outside of the home, so why isn't a mother considered a part of the workforce if she does the job? Social Security, a pension, healthcare, all in her name, not hubby.

I won't hold my breath on this since the real issue is not about caring for mothers but wanting to "put women in their place."

and anyway, the myth of the stay-at-home mom is something the middle class experienced for a time. if the repukes want this to be possible, why do they pass laws to undermine the middle and lower classes?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:58 PM
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3. Here's some ideas, Congressman, from a stay home mom:
Make it possible for poor mothers to stay at home at least more of the time. Sponsor cooperatives for child care, nutrition, trips to the library, park, etc. Increase state aid to poor and lower middle class children.

Don't fall the divisive working vs. stay-home strategy (too late for that, no doubt).

Strengthen Head Start--think twenty years into the future.

Support strong, effective, PUBLIC schools.

Ask a poor mom who'd like to stay home but can't afford it what they'd like.

Here's a great idea, Congressman--STAY HOME YOURSELF... That should get your creative juices flowing.
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:59 PM
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4. Women staying at home would solve job shortages.
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 04:18 PM by flashl
Just like it did after WWII.:sarcasm:
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:09 PM
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7. Puhleeeezzzeee!!
:crazy:

Women worked and built airplanes and weapons and bombs in WWII!!

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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:10 PM
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8. after WWII
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:20 PM
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11. You are SO wrong...Rosie the Riveter: Women Working During World War II
Rosie the Riveter: Women Working During World War II

http://www.nps.gov/pwro/collection/website/rosie.htm

"When the United States entered the war, 12 million women (one quarter of the workforce)
were already working and by the end of the war, the number was up to 18 million (one third
of the workforce)."


http://www.nps.gov/pwro/collection/website/pics.htm
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flashl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:51 PM
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12. Postwar women
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 04:51 PM by flashl
link

With the end of the war, came the pressure for females to return to where they belong. All the women who took jobs during the war, were now all expected to make room for the returning men. The returning veterans were all unemployed and in need of work. The government's solution to the problem was to force women out of their jobs in order to make room for the men. The same as they were encouraged into the labor force, they were encouraged out of it. Posters, movies, and articles were posted to help push females to leave their jobs and return to their homes. Despite the pressure, women were not so quick to return to the kitchen.


I am not saying its a good thing, just that it happen.
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:27 PM
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16. the women taking jobs from American men now
are Chinese. And some of them are men. Whole different enchilada...amazing, the stuff that happens, huh? :shrug:
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:20 PM
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10. job shortages for whom?
there were divorced and widowed females after the war. there were poor females after the war. the job situation after the war was greatly improved by the fact that the European nations were, by and large, destroyed by Hitler's rampage and the U.S. created products that got them back to civilization.

Eisenhower started the interstate system and put people to work, on the govt. dime, to build infrastructure.

do you have any reason to think the repukes now are interested in using taxpayer money to actually help taxpayers? if so, I got this bridge in the Sahara. very cheap.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:00 PM
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5. His wife HAS a full-time job
If you have a farm that is not a 'hobby farm', every member of the household that is able helps to work that land.

Besides raising future minions for the empire, she has another full-time job instilling the 'family values' of fear, hatred, and intolerance of others.

I love these people with such a limited, narrow world view, who just cannot wait to get into a position of power so they can use the force of law to impose their personal beliefs on the public.
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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:06 PM
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6. crown state Rep. Steve Thayn (R-Emmett) as Idaho's Most Extreme Lawmaker
http://redstaterebels.typepad.com/red_state_rebels/2007/02/steve_thayn_par.html

Pained by Thayn, Part 2

Taking up from where I left off yesterday, ace Ridenbaugh Press reporter Randy Stapilus
has found scads more evidence why we might crown state Rep. Steve Thayn (R-Emmett) as
Idaho's Most Extreme Lawmaker.


Randy unearths some fascinating and scary stuff, including a compassionately conservative
quote Thayn made a few weeks ago about hunger in Idaho. I'd seen this, but I'd forgotten it.
http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2007/02/07/out-on-the-edge/">Go forth and read.

The Red State Rebels blog (proprietor, Julie Fanselow) has nominated state Representative
Steven Thayn as the best choice, for the moment, as “the most extreme legislator” in Idaho.
The farthest out to the edge, that is, on his side of the philosophical divide, which probably
would mean the farthest out (on his side of the face) among the northwest’s 347 state legislators.


Update Feb. 9: As noted below by Bubblehead in the comments, Kevin Richert of the Idaho Statesman
has noted (and more or less echoes) this nomination in his new blog. Check it out.

http://www.idahostatesman.com/392/story/70756.html


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Breeze54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:15 PM
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13. This guy starved his kids to make them work!!
http://www.ridenbaugh.com/index.php/2007/02/07/out-on-the-edge/

"From a report on the United Vision for Idaho site: “New District 11 Representative
Steven Thayn reacting to the report from the Idaho Summit on Hunger (in an e-mail):

" ‘Hunger is not always a negative as the report indicates. Without hunger or the threat of hunger probably half of humanity would not get up in the morning and go to work. Hunger is one of the great motivators of humanity. It is one of the tools that I used as a parent to encourage my children to do their choirs (sic) as young children. When used properly, hunger can motivate people so they can experience the joy of work and accomplishment.’”


Gheezzzeeee!! How did this piece of shit get elected and stay in office?
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idgiehkt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:25 PM
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14. oh, 'the breakdown of the family' garbage kills me
"The Emmett Republican sees the breakdown of the traditional family structure as the root of societal ills such as drug abuse, crime and domestic violence."

Crime??? Really. There was no crime before divorce lost it's stigma? Get out!

No drug addiction? No war? No famine? No disease?

Everything was all pastel with cotton candy clouds over spun-sugar sunshine?

And women somehow fucked it up? Burn 'em.
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Countdown_3_2_1 Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:26 PM
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15. Hmmmm, Stepford wives. Sign me up!
What my Stepford wife will say to me, "Let me get you another beer, master."

Just think, you can put her in the closet when you are done.
she cooks and cleans.
She doesn't feel the need to compete with football.
She goes shopping and buys just what you tell her.
and she gets ready in less than 10 minutes.

Invest in robotics, and contribute to the end of the human race. Who needs a real gal when robots do the same job better?

sigh. I was born way too early.

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