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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:22 PM
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Spooks refuse to toe Cheney's line on Iran
Source: Asia Times


By Gareth Porter

WASHINGTON - The US National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Iran has been held up for more than a year in an effort to force the intelligence community to remove dissenting judgments on the Iranian nuclear program. The aim is to make the document more supportive of Vice President Dick Cheney's militarily aggressive policy toward Iran, according to accounts provided by participants in the NIE process to two former Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) officers.

But this pressure on intelligence analysts, obviously instigated by Cheney himself, has not produced a draft estimate without those
dissenting views, these sources say. The White House has now apparently decided to release the "unsatisfactory" draft NIE, but without making its key findings public.

A NIE coordinates the judgments of the US's 16 intelligence agencies on a specific country or issue.

A former CIA intelligence officer who has asked not to be identified told Inter Press Service (IPS) that an official involved in the NIE process says the Iran estimate was ready to be published a year ago but has been delayed because the director of national intelligence wanted a draft reflecting a consensus on key conclusions - particularly on Iran's nuclear program.

There is a split in the intelligence community on how much of a threat the Iranian nuclear program poses, according to the intelligence official's account. Some analysts who are less independent are willing to give the benefit of the doubt to the alarmist view coming from Cheney's office, but others have rejected that view....>



Read more: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/IK10Ak01.html



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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:26 PM
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1. sanity is so welcome, whenever the Bush admin is the topic.
thank you, spooks. Do NOT back down.
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Brrrp Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:33 PM
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2. If you can't make them recant, then redact.
This sucks big donkey dick.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:41 PM
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3. but without making its key findings public. --so, WE the people will not know!


The White House has now apparently decided to release the "unsatisfactory" draft NIE, but without making its key findings public.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 01:42 PM
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4. Good.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:04 PM
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5.  Iraq 2.0
This also backs up the articles of impeachment against cheney. I hope this story gets lots of play in the American press.
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kelligesq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:11 PM
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6. Good reason to support Kucinich's bid for impeachment - call your
Edited on Sat Nov-10-07 03:12 PM by kelligesq
congress person and the judiciary members and repeat exactly what is said here about the NIE estimate and pressure by Cheney to change it, another good reason to impeach Cheney

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:15 PM
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9. I do...and I do
Seems like letters to the editor are also in order. :hi:
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rockybelt Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 10:04 AM
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21. Press
The only place you may see this news is on Countdown, most likely. The MSM may put it on page 45 column 356.
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Joe Bacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 03:58 PM
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7. Podhoretz wants Iran bombed
And Hagee wants it bombed in the name of Jesus.

What will these assholes say when Israel is counternuked?
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:38 PM
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10. They will point to the New Testament...

and claim the Jews had it coming.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:13 PM
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8. Another reason for impeachment.
They got away with their lies once, maybe twice. ?
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Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 04:53 PM
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11. They'll eventually side with Cheney, and if they don't ...
The reports will still be written as though they had.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:07 PM
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12. Gee, they're following the guidance of the fearless leader. How can anyone gripe, even VeePee?
After all, didn't the Wee Cowboy say

"Fooled me once, ummmhhh, errrr, snort, ..... won't git fooled agin!!"

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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:51 PM
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13. Your picture so needs to be photoshopped;
'Dept of ...'
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 11:44 PM
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17. Not too good, but
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:35 AM
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20. Not bad
but an Orwellian "Minipax" would be a good caption there too. :)
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 11:43 AM
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22. That's great.
And far more accurate.

I'd say you got the lettering perfect. I don't even know how you did it. That's one of the photoshop things I can't figure out.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 05:55 PM
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14. and this has to come from the Asia Times why? -- the GOP/Media Establishment won't touch it
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 06:37 PM
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15. The Bushco bullies attacked Iraq because they were sure that there were no WMD's there.
Similarly, they want to attack Iran because they are sure that there are no nukes there. If they believed that Iran had nukes, they would leave them alone. The bully only goes after the weakest, or most cowardly, target.

This is something that North Korea understands, which is why they rushed to set off a nuclear device (or made it look like they set off a nuclear device).

At any rate, our Democrats in Congress seem to have not learned such a lesson.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-10-07 10:46 PM
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16. I appreciate all that these CIA officals...
..are doing to stop this madness.

Finally, someone in government who can stop this neocon train wreck.

That's probably why we haven't gone to war with Iran, as of today. They
don't have what they need yet and Junior's approvals are in the toilet.

I'm astounded frankly that half of the CIA officials are not giving
Darth Pasty his war on a silver platter. Bush worked tirelessly to
turn the CIA into their own little playground of lemmings.

Also--what does this say if the CIA is trying to stop these bastards,
but we still have Democrats in the House and Senate who are kow towing
to this president and voting for the Kyl/Lieberman bullshit? Everyone
knows that amendment, for which many Dems voted--is a precursor to war
with Iran and makes it oh-so easy for Bush to continue on his warpath.

So, in the end--this nation will be saved by the CIA?

It's good news, and I'm glad to hear it, but what in the hell happened
to our party?
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:19 AM
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18. I cannot BELIEVE Cheney has the audacity to try this AGAIN.
He certainly has some big brass ones, I'll tell you that. :puke:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 08:31 AM
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19. WOW - dissent from a *purged* Bush/Cheney CIA (stuffed with neocon lackeys)
The evidence must be REALLY scant to none....
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:26 PM
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23. Gareth Porter is an important scholar.
Edited on Sun Nov-11-07 12:45 PM by Octafish
The guy wrote "Perils of Dominance" which chronicles the mistakes made by the MIC-Complex leadership in a changing world.

From the article:



...Frank J Gaffney, a protege of neo-conservative heavyweight Richard Perle, complained that Negroponte was “absurdly declaring the Iranian regime to be years away from having nuclear weapons”.

This January 5, President George W Bush announced the nomination of retired Vice Admiral John Michael “Mike” McConnell to be director of national intelligence. McConnell was approached by Cheney himself about accepting the position, according to Newsweek.

McConnell was far more amenable to White House influence than his predecessor. On February 27, one week after his confirmation, he told the Senate Armed Services Committee he was “comfortable saying it’s probable” that the alleged export of explosively formed penetrators to Shi’ite insurgents in Iraq was linked to the highest leadership in Iran.

Cheney had been making that charge, but Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Secretary of Defense Robert Gates, as well as Negroponte, have opposed it...



BTW: A great photograph outside the House of War.
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Tom Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-11-07 12:41 PM
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24. The cheney administration is doing all it can to promote confrontation. Listen to Bolton here....
http://www.stopaipac.org/boltontape.htm

Bolton hoped Iran would kick out inspectors or some such thing, thereby giving the US a reason for a "response".
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