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ProSense

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Tue Nov-13-07 01:29 PM
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Conservative Catholic group goes after Repubs for voting against SCHIP

Conservative Catholic Group Runs Ads Targeting Anti-SCHIP Lawmakers As �Not Pro-Life�

In October, Catholics United, �a non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to promoting the message of justice and the common good found at the heart of the Catholic Social Tradition,� launched an ad campaign targeting �pro-life Christian� politicians who voted against expanding the State Children�s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP).

The ads criticized the members of Congress for saying they�re �pro-life,� but then voting �against health care for poor children.� �That�s not pro-life. That�s not pro-family,� concluded the ads.

One of the targets of the ads, Rep. Thaddeus G. McCotter (R-MI), the Chairman of the House Republican Policy Committee, responded to the ads by accusing Catholics United of being the �devil� and acting in �sin�:

Catholics United, which demurs from airing similar ads against pro-abortion members of Congress, is not a Catholic Church sanctioned organization; it is a Leftist political front group. No one should be fooled when this devil cites Scripture for his own purpose. <�>

Through their duplicitous partisan S-CHIP attacks, this is (charitably) the sin which Catholics United has committed; and the sin with which Catholics United is coercively trying to tempt pro-life members of Congress.

Now Catholics United is taking to the Christian radio airwaves again. They�re still hitting McCotter, but are also adding four more members of Congress to their target list:

Rep. Jim Marshall (D-GA)
Rep. Virgil Goode (R-VA)
Rep. Todd Tiahrt (R-KS)
Rep. Kenny Hulshof (R-MO)

Listen to the ad against Goode:

Rep. Goode responded to the new ads by digging in his feet, exclaiming �I�m opposed to the child health bill.�

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Hekate

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Tue Nov-13-07 01:35 PM
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1. Who'da thunk it? Dissension in the ranks.

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RB TexLa

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Tue Nov-13-07 01:53 PM
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3. There are plenty of Catholic organizations on the left of the political spectrum

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Hekate

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Tue Nov-13-07 04:22 PM
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6. I know, but this was described as "conservative" in the header. Enlighten me.

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RB TexLa

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Tue Nov-13-07 04:52 PM
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8. You'd have to ask whoever wrote the headline at thinkprogress why they labeled us that

Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 04:52 PM by RGBolen

Go to the website and judge us for yourself.
http://www.catholics-united.org/

Who We Are

Catholics United is a national online community of Catholics who believe strongly in our faith's call to build a society for justice and the common good.

We take seriously all our Church's social and political teachings, and refuse to water down our faith in service of partisan politics.

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Toots

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Tue Nov-13-07 05:15 PM
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10. So do you bear the mark, can we see it? Is it really 666

Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 05:16 PM by Toots

Do you truly have horns and a tail? Inquiring minds want to know...A Republican said you were the devil and we all know they would never ever LIE.

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msu2ba

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Tue Nov-13-07 06:08 PM
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14. Maybe...

...they confused CU with Catholics United for the Faith. The CUF'ers are batshit crazy conservatives.

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DCKit

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Wed Nov-14-07 05:50 PM
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16. But the VALUES are conservative, just what the Repukes claim to be....

Yet never demonstrate.

Like every other example of *-speak, "compassionate conservatism" is exactly the opposite of what it actually is.

There are no "sides" on the issue of child health care. They all screwed up big time and everyone who voted against it needs to lose their seat when their slot comes up. They SUCK.

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YOY

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Tue Nov-13-07 05:20 PM
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11. When they say "Pro-life" they mean it.

That's pro-health care especially for families. Pro-natal. Pro-social programs that help out families. Anti-death penalty. Anti-choice. Anti-birth control. Anti-euthansia. (Sometimes even anti-war.) I grew up around them. Not neccesarily bad folks...just unaware that they are pushing their values on other folks.

Gotta give 'em some credit. They stick by their guns on the "pro-life" stance and don't just take the evangelist "once-you're-born-you're-screwed" approach.

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RB TexLa

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Tue Nov-13-07 06:50 PM
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15. Catholics United does not believe in criminalizing abortion.

At least as far as anything I have ever read from them. They support social programs and commitments to economic development and education that helps to eliminate the needs for abortion.

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YOY

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Tue Nov-13-07 05:20 PM
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12. When they say "Pro-life" they mean it.

That's pro-health care especially for families. Pro-natal. Pro-social programs that help out families. Anti-death penalty. Anti-choice. Anti-birth control. Anti-euthansia. (Sometimes even anti-war.) I grew up around them. Not neccesarily bad folks...just unaware that they are pushing their values on other folks.

Gotta give 'em some credit. They stick by their guns on the "pro-life" stance and don't just take the evangelist "once-you're-born-you're-screwed" approach.

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beachmom

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Tue Nov-13-07 01:51 PM
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2. K & R

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napi21

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Tue Nov-13-07 01:54 PM
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4. It's about damn time! The Catholics have been beating up on the

Dems FOREVER! I'm certainly glad to see they now recognize that their Pub "buddies" are a problem too!

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Gman

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Tue Nov-13-07 02:02 PM
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5. Read Rep. McCotter's article in the NRO

Edited on Tue Nov-13-07 02:03 PM by Gman

here

In evidence, let us examine how the dishonest utterances about S-CHIP by Catholics United stray from the faith of the Church as professed in the teachings of His Holiness Pope Benedict XVI (n�e Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger): First, the pope has explained Christianity as �a truth that is spoken publicly, establishes public criteria and that, in a certain measure, also binds the state and the powerful of this world.�

This dillweed, as well as all the wingnut RW Catholics around are taking full advantage of Pope Benedict being one of them. Rep. McCotter quotes Benedict extensively regarding "the truth". (The son of a bitch never mentions JPII.) However, McCotter takes Benedict's words completely out of their original context. Then, he goes off on a convoluted argument about the truth and his version of "the truth" and SCHIP, therefore Catholics United is being deceitful and implies that even worse, they are opposing the Holy Father. What a friggin' piece of shit this guy is.

After all this Category 5 hurricane force hot air, McCotter needs to be asked one thing: Would Jesus want the children covered by SCHIP? Yes or No. There is no qualification possible in an answer to this.

As a Catholic, my draw dropped to the table reading the intellectually dishonest gymnastic arguments this guy makes about being pro-life, but not being able to support SCHIP.

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Ilsa

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Tue Nov-13-07 04:33 PM
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7. Good, K&R.

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Marrah_G

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Tue Nov-13-07 04:55 PM
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9. Not so hard to believe

Growing up almost everyone I knew was Catholic and EVERYONE I knew was a Democrat.

Working Class, Blue Collar, Union Worker, Democrat, and Catholic all seemed to go hand in had around here.

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OHdem10

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Tue Nov-13-07 05:55 PM
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13. Pope Benedict has emphasised our Church's Role__

Social Justice , He now refers to the Vulnerable of Society so as
to include more than just the abject poor.

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