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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:23 PM
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Rudy's Campaign: He Can Do the Job Better Than Her + He Looks Just As Good in a Skirt & High Heels
I just heard from a friend who has insights into the Rudy campaign playbook, and they're supposedly getting receptive laughter to that meme in focus groups.

References to such items as his "shapely cankles" also supposedly caused these groups to report that they view him as a serious leader who isn't afraid to poke fun of himself, and who doesn't take himself too seriously.



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That's going to require some serious thinking on the part of some very smart Dem strategists, if those two end up being the nominees.

- Dave
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:36 PM
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1. He's goofing around in drag while 9-11 rescue workers don't have health care.
If he gets the nod, play constant TV ads of him whooping it up in a dress and makeup while the heros of New York are dying of cancer and respiratory ailments.

If McCain gets it, ads of him cutting birthday cake with Bush while New Orleans drowns.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:40 PM
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2. Preaching to the Choir, But...
... one thing that especially worries me is *where* these focus groups are being held: purple swing states.

What is the DNC doing to sow doubts about each major GOP potential in these same states?

- Dave
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:50 PM
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3. Hell if I know.
I swear it's like the DNC wants to lose the way it refuses to do what needs to be done. And the campaigns are spending waaaaay too much time carefully focus-grouping and choreographing themselves rather than framing their opponents like the GOP does to us.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:43 PM
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6. Short of Transplanting Blue Voters...
... to purplish states, I don't see the DNC putting together a winning strategy in those key swing states.

- Dave
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:52 PM
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7. I live in Arizona
Where we have a Dem Governor and Attorney General. We recently unseated JD Hayworth and picked up Jim Kolbe's former seat. We now have a split Congressional delegation. We are registering Dems at a 3 to 1 ratio to Republicans and the state party is out-fundraising the Republicans 2 to 1. Our hometown boy McCain is pretty much a joke here.

I'm just afraid the DNC is going to swoop down on us in '08 and use the same lame strategies they used in '04. Then pull their apparatus out a month before the election like they did then.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:57 PM
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10. Sounds Like How They Deal with the "Rubes"...
... in places like WV, the Ohio Valley, Kentucky, SW Virginia, and the Carolinas.

"Fly in and put on the biggest show these backwater bubbas have seen in years, and they'll be eating out of our hands."

Not the approach JFK took...

- Dave
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 08:51 PM
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4. That drag shit is going to cost him votes, and not gain him any.
He can yuck it up all he wants, just like Bush yucked it up with "where are the wmds? not here" joke. That shit is going to creep some Repubs the f#ck out. Me, there are a million better reasons not to vote for him.

He should be worried about his weak ass polls against Hillary. Everyone knows all the dirt on her, yet most of America knows very little about Dame Rudy, except he is the self-proclaimed hero of 9-11.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:05 PM
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5. Not So
They're *embracing* the drag photos in the Rudy campaign, and finding that they resonate positively with a lot of the GOP base.

As I understand it, the focus groups show famous/well-liked actors in drag (in memorable roles) over the decades, culminating with a photo of Rudy.

- Dave
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:54 PM
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8. OK, but that's with the "base"
You can show them footage of a GOP politician setting fire to a basket of puppies and they'll find some way to excuse it and blame it on Bill Clinton.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:55 PM
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9. That Was the Segment Rudy's Campaign Was Worried about...
... if the wingnuts are OK with it, the social moderates won't blink twice.

- Dave
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 09:59 PM
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11. And I am sure some focus group thought the wmd joes were great
And some focus group thought George Allen should embrace his macaca moment. Focus groups approve everything that every candidate does, and it shows how out of touch they are.

Add the cross dressing on top of the "gay loving," "pro-abortion," serial adulterer and divorcer thing, and it is going to lose him votes.

Do you know about the Wilder effect? Wikipedia it if you don't. Rudy's handlers think the drag thing will be great, everyone will slap hands, voters will say it's all good, and then go in and vote for someone else. Not in droves mind you, but enough where it might count. Especially since the "hero of 9-11" is routinely beaten in the polls by a woman everyone supposedly hates.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:03 PM
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13. I Live in VA...
... know all about the Wilder Effect.

The reaction to that phenom? Focus group techniques and gadgets that allow voters to register their more deeply-held feelings more honestly (e.g., double-blind response voting systems).

- Dave
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:08 PM
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15. All I can say is, I really hope that they start floating this little joke out there
The people who love Rudy will love it, and they will have no idea the damage that it will be doing.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:16 PM
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18. At Least with YouTube...
... they cannot compartmentalize it to geographic regions they think it will work, and isolate it from regions where they think it will hurt.

- Dave
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:00 PM
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12. The horror! The horror!...what a scary picture
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:05 PM
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14. Sorry, Should've Included a Graphic Warning in the OP! n/t
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:09 PM
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16. Look on the bright side. Don't they have talent shows at the
big summits with all the different leaders getting dressed up to put on skits or to sing? With Rudy we'd take home the prize.

www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvM2t4CRK8F8%26search%3Dcolin%2520powell%2520ymca
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-14-07 10:13 PM
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17. Laff-o-lympics Gold for Sure! n/t
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:15 AM
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19. Hillary Could Say: "Yeah, But My First Lady Portrait Looks Better" n/t
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