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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:26 AM
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Boston Cardinal attacks Democrats for support of abortion
He's got some nerve :eyes: The Boston Archdiocese has no business counselling on what is moral considering how they hid the rape and sexual abuse of children for decades. Get off your high horse O'Malley :grr:

O'Malley draws line with Democrats

Cardinal Sean P. O'Malley of Boston, saying the Democratic Party has been persistently hostile to opponents of abortion rights, asserted yesterday that the support of many Catholics for Democratic candidates "borders on scandal."

In his sharpest comments about the political landscape since he was installed as archbishop of Boston four years ago, O'Malley made clear that, despite his differences with the Republican Party over immigration policy, capital punishment, economic issues, and the war in Iraq, he views abortion as the most important moral issue facing policymakers.

"I think the Democratic Party, which has been in many parts of the country traditionally the party which Catholics have supported, has been extremely insensitive to the church's position, on the gospel of life in particular, and on other moral issues," O'Malley said.

Acknowledging that Catholic voters in Massachusetts generally support Democratic candidates who are in favor of abortion rights, O'Malley said, "I think that, at times, it borders on scandal as far as I'm concerned."

"However, when I challenge people about this, they say, 'Well, bishop, we're not supporting ,' " he said. "I think there's a need for people to very actively dissociate themselves from those unacceptable positions, and I think if they did that, then the party would have to change."

O'Malley urged the Democratic Party to be more open to abortion opponents. "My plea with Democratic leaders is always that they make space for prolife politicians, and I have many prolife Democrats come to me and say that they're not making space for them. I think that that is a very serious problem, particularly in a state like Massachusetts, where it is so heavily Democrat."
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:36 AM
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1. Hurtling Into Irrelevance
The Catholic Church here in Mass has virtually zero impact these days - O'Malley has managed to turn off most of the handful of the faithful that remained after the pedophile-juggling Cardinal Law fled the country to avoid jail.

Methinks this is why God's Rottweiller decided to skip over us during his US tour - nobody would care.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:31 AM
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10. "Methinks this is why God's Rottweiller decided to skip over us during his US tour"
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 08:31 AM by wicket
Methinks you are right :) Fellow Bostonian here :hi:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:39 AM
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2. Hey....
... Cardinal Moneybags O'Molester.

Nobody cares about your twisted idea of morality. When it includes allowing the molestation of thousands of boys and girls, it is hard to take seriously.

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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:51 AM
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3. Time to complain about their 501(c)3 status? (NT)
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:15 AM
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5. No action will be taken by the Repuke installed FEC ...
unless he starts saying "Don't vote for Repuke candidates who support abortion, either!" (Rudy, Mitt ...)
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:22 AM
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7. Not a complaint to the FEC, a complaint to the IRS! (NT)
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:33 AM
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11. Now that sounds like a plan
:thumbsup:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:51 AM
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4. Why don't we revoke their tax exempt status? n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:43 AM
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14. How does one go about that
I'm trying to find the info on the IRS website now and not coming up with much.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:02 AM
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15. You can also revoke their corporate charter through the secretary of state's office. n/t
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:00 PM
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17. Hmmm....you're giving me ideas
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 04:00 PM by wicket
;)
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:20 AM
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6. Democrats aren't supporting abortion.
Democrats are supporting the fundamental constitutional rights of freedom of religion and an individuals right to make their own medical decisions. It's called "Freedom". The Cardinal should stick to giving moral instructions to Catholics starting with his pedophile priests and not try to foist his religion on people that aren't part of his church.
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:24 AM
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8. When Democrats against choice show they can get votes they are supported by the party
Bob Casey and Kathleen Blanco were both supported by the Democratic party.

However the approach by many in the priesthood and laity does more to lower abortion than criminalizing it would. That is supporting education, health care and economic reforms that fall in line with the church's teaching on social justice. And you don't find candidates in the GOP that you can morally vote for if you want your government to work toward such social justice.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:26 AM
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9. Democrats attack Boston cardinal for molesting children
Now there's the headline I'd like to see!!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:33 AM
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12. Good luck with that O'Malley
What he might accomplish is a number of Catholics staying home. My parents didn't vote in 2004. Guilt trips about really acting on their beliefs from their priests made it hard to vote Dem and yet they could not vote for * either. So they didn't vote and it accomplished nothing.

So go for it O'Malley, try pushing more Mass Dems into voting for a bunch of blood-lusting wannabe war presidents and you will either turn them from the polls completely or you will find yourself closing even more Parishes.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:34 AM
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13. Pro-occupation candidates are OK though
More than a million dead men, women and children and they bring this up?

These people are really sick.

Don
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:13 AM
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16. kick
:kick:
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:11 PM
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18. Telephone Cardinal O'Malley's Office 617-782-2544
Let him know that he should sticking to leading the Archdioscese, and keep his nose out of politics unless he wants the Church to lose its tax exempt status.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:14 PM
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19. No.
Let a person do what she will with her body. Forcing her to do as you wish is nothing short of totalitarian. Let her decide for herself.
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:16 PM
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20. No, buggering small children and then COVERING IT UP "borders on scandal"...
...idiot :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:16 PM
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21. Oh, and did this same Boston cardinal
attack bushites for killing innocent babies, children, women and men in Iraq?

Did he? I hope so cause if he didn't that would make him a fucking religious hypocrite.

And, this Dem does not support abortion but she reserves the right to keep the goddamn fucking nose of the government and religion out of a woman's right to choose.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:37 PM
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23. Of course he didn't
SO telling :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:12 PM
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24. And, is this a distraction from the
perversion in the Catholic Church that higher echelons are so busy covering up?
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:29 PM
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22. I thought the Cardinals were in St. Louis
:hide:
:rofl:
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:23 PM
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25. As much as DU'rs hate this line of thinking - it might become a MAJOR issue
for us in '08.

The more the Church gets involved in this issue, the Catholic vote becomes increasingly difficult for Democrats to attain.

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