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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:03 AM
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Alleged CIA (& FBI) mole held Baghdad post
How big a role did disgraced CIA officer have?
Prouty was assigned a sensitive post in Baghdad, NBC News has learned

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21796035/

Current and former intelligence officials tell NBC News that Nada Nadim Prouty had a much bigger role than officials at the FBI and CIA first acknowledged. In fact, Prouty was assigned to the CIA’s most sensitive post, Baghdad, and participated in the debriefings of high-ranking al-Qaida detainees.

Although no one claims Prouty worked for Hezbollah, her computer searches led U.S. officials to question her. She looked up files on her sister, Elfat El Aouar, and brother-in-law, Talal Khalil Chahine, both of whom attended a Hezbollah fundraiser in Lebanon — alongside Hezbollah spiritual leader Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, designated by the United States as a terrorist.



A senior U.S. official familiar with the case says there is no evidence she was a spy and noted that the CIA and FBI have a good record in prosecuting spies, particularly in their own agencies. He says her role was limited.

“This is not John Dillinger or Reilly Ace of Spies,” said the official. “She took an illegal shortcut to the American dream, then she made some inappropriate computer searches. At this point, there is no reason to treat this as a counterintelligence case. There is NO allegation she had ever ties to Hezbollah. You can’t let suspicions get ahead of the facts.”

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:12 AM
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1. There's only one reason why BOTH the FBI and CIA whiffed on her
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:30 AM by rocknation
she was sponsored and protected by something over and above them--such as the Bush white house's Office Of Special Plans.

She sat in on "debriefings" of high-ranking al-Qaida "detainees?" If they're detainees, it's called interrogation.

:headbang:
rocknation
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:15 AM
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3. indeed--that was my first thought when I heard "Baghdad"
she's a double agent at least--maybe triple.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:40 AM
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4. Yeah I was wondering about that too
if there were so many obvious connection questions how could they have missed it? Answer-they couldn't have.


Strange days indeed
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:13 AM
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2. one big mystery: why we only hear about this now, on conviction
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 10:14 AM by librechik
the trial must have been going on for months. This is the first I've heard of it and I rake the wires for nits daily.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:43 AM
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5. deep stuff -- and of course it doesn't HAVE to be hezbullah
that she may have had connections with.

i can imagine several scenarios that doesn't have connections with u.s. named ''extremists'' that might have been in play -- and perfectly reasonable.

there is much more here than meets the eye, eh?
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:41 AM
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6. The echo chamber appears to be really running with this garbage.
She looked up files on her sister, Elfat El Aouar, and brother-in-law, Talal Khalil Chahine, both of whom attended a Hezbollah fundraiser in Lebanon — alongside Hezbollah spiritual leader Sheikh Muhammad Hussein Fadlallah, designated by the United States as a terrorist.


Okay, so this person's sister married someone who attended an event where the speaker of the event was designated by the U.S. government as a terrorist.

But wait, what? Who was designated? Someone who spoke at a function that her sister attended. And, wait -- "designated"? "Designated" by what? How does one get "designated"? What is that supposed to mean?

Why in the world would the U.S. Department of the Treasury make criminal "designations" of people? The U.S. Constitution requires that no one can be "designated" without the timeless protections afforded under due process of law. No one can be "designated" except by a court with jurisdiction by a jury of that person's peers. And that person is entitled to be represented by counsel and to confront and cross-examine the witnesses against them.

Now wait: The Treasury Department doesn't seat juries or try cases in court. That sure seems strange to me. Doesn't it seem strange to you? What is going on here?


So this woman's sister attended an event with her husband where there was someone "designated" by a treasury department?

And this makes her a "mole"? Are you reading the same words that I am reading??

And why wouldn't the federal court indictments involving her sister's husband have any allegations about this supposedly nefarious event that her sister and her sister's husband attended?

It begins to become person's related to person's who attended an event somewhere where there was someone else in attendance. There are so many jumps to conclusions regarding people and from one individual to another that one loses track.


This would be called guilt by association -- if only it could even rise to such a level.

Time to call this what it is. The only thing this person did was lie on her immigration papers and search the computers for people she knew. As if people don't do that every day. Oh, but wait, this person is from Lebanon, is a Muslim, Arab, and part of the "Other" against whom the "War on Terror" is being waged. Now the echo chamber has a story?

That is why the investigation has uncovered NO EVIDENCE.

Don't let them do that to you.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 11:53 AM
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7. Very good points
but we have seen that apparently the FBI was, at one point, going to track falafel buying (seriously look that one up) and...

LAPD drops plan to map Muslims
http://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_7465305
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