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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:24 PM
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Coal Industry Sponsoring Tonight’s CNN Democratic Presidential Debate
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 02:31 PM by NightWatcher
cross post from Environ/Energy
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/11/15/clean-coal-sponsors-debate/



"Tonight at 8 pm EST, CNN will air a Democratic presidential debate, live from Las Vegas, Nevada. A full-page advertisement in today’s New York Times states that the debate is being sponsored by the “clean coal” industry:

UPDATE: The coal industry also has ads on CNN’s debate website."

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CNN is NOT NEWS, but a "news delivery and screening service" provided by whomever pays them the most.

Mods- Please keep in GD before being sent to the Environment dungeon. This is about the debate, corporate sponsorship of "news" and not so much about the environment. Thanks

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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:40 PM
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1. Didn't know there was such a thing as CLEAN coal
I am not surprised by the many corrupt sponsors , so of sick that power and money drive everything . It would be quite a shock if one the the hopefuls brought this up while being questioned by Wolf no less .
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:47 PM
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10. the oxymoron of the ages....
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high density Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:49 PM
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16. You can say that again
We've got idiots "from away" up here in Maine that are trying to build a coal gasification plant here. They call it "ultra clean" technology! :crazy: :crazy:
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:37 PM
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19. haha there isnt!
have you saw some of the adds they put on TV?
what a joke.
clean burning coal!
haha, now ive heard everything.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 02:25 PM
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21. It means "cleanER than 19th Century coal", a very limited claim. nt
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:45 PM
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2. GEEZUSSS jumpin' christ!
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 02:46 PM by GrpCaptMandrake
There's no end of it, is there?

For the love of all that's sacred, I hope folks here know and understand that there is NO SUCH THING as "Clean Coal." Coal is the single least efficient, most polluting of ALL the fossil fuels.

Here in Appalachia, our wells are poisoned, our wildlife slaughtered, our mountains turned to moonscapes, our children sickened, our roads demolished all for that "Clean Coal" that will be hustled to a largely ignorant public tonight.

Please spread the word. Please. Appalachia is being murdered for coal.

The candidates at the debate should, but probably won't, denounce the sponsor from the podium.

Got to www.ilovemountains.org

Please kick and recommend the OP so folks can know about this fraud.

Thank you.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:47 PM
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3. thanks for the link to the mountaintop removal info
they are piggybacking on "global warming" to show "clean coal" is better. I am so sick and tired of the ads that the coal companies, nuclear power companies, and oil producers are running on "news" in order to allow them to frame what we hear and see.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:46 PM
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9. No. Thank YOU
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 03:47 PM by GrpCaptMandrake
For catching that sleaze.

I'll open with it tonight on "Head-On With Bob Kincaid."

I've also alerted the Kucinich campaign and hope they can get Dennis to mention it tonight.

The more we can make people aware of what "unlimited" electricity means, the more likely we can affect change in the American heart.

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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:49 PM
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4. the corporate news network spreading itself out for everyone to look at.
pretty sick ain't it?
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:51 PM
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5. Looks like Santa (aka Satan) left the folks at CNN a lump of coal in their stockings...
and they're trying to pawn it off as quickly as possible!
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:19 PM
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6. Look at the reality of "clean coal"


This same scene is replicated hundreds of times all over Appalachia. These operations always come with billions of gallons of toxic sludge waste that the coal companies confine behind earthen dams.

One of those dams, holding back 2 BILLION gallons of toxic filth, sits above an elementary school:


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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:43 PM
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7. Kick n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:44 PM
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8. Will Murray the murderer be there? n/t
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:40 PM
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12. That was my first thought, too
Nothing like a little global warming rant to start off a debate!
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:38 PM
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11. Re-kick N/T
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Basileus Basileon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:41 PM
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13. Coal power is horrible. I wish we could shift everything
to solar, wind, nuclear (until we have enough of a renewable infrastructure), and hydro.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 04:43 PM
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14. "Clean Coal" has very little to do with the 'coal industry'
Clean Coal is the name for a technology development program started by the Department of Energy over a decade ago. It is another billion dollar giveaway to big industry but in this case the industry is the owner's of electric power generation stations and the manufacturers of the machinery of which they are made and from which they function. So when you think about Clean Coal it is much more accurate to associate it with General Electric than it is with Massey Energy or some other monster coal mining operation.
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 05:47 PM
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15. Technically, perhaps
But Massey and the WV Coal Association hustles it as its own.

"Clean Coal" is an argument for using more coal, and not less.

And, of course, it's a howling misnomer. Coal remains the filthiest fuel on the planet.
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ralps Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:22 PM
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17. K & R
:hi: :loveya: :hug: :pals: :woohoo:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:33 PM
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18. The commercial ads during the first break:

1) CleanCoal (sic)

2) HP computers (commercial servers) w/MicroSoft

3) Ameriprise Financial

4) US Trust/Bank of America

5) Bristol-Myers Squib (Pharmaceuticals)

6) MEGA (Health Insurance)


Entrenched Energy, entrenched Banking, and entrenched FOR PROFIT HealthCare.....Hillary?
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:42 PM
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20. nice catch. all the news that is approved by the corporate gods
energy, banking, big pharma, and insurance.....a who's who of corporate slime and greed.
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