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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:26 PM
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A compelling argument against impeachment:
We get Pelosi as President.

At this point, the way she's pandered to the DLC and the right, the way she's handled the speaker's position, I'm no longer sure that would be a good thing.

Talk me out of it and back into the impeachment camp.

-Hoot
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:27 PM
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1. The most compelling so far.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:27 PM
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2. I don't much care for Pelosi, but if we get her as President it will likely mean
she has finally found her spine.

Plus, no matter how bad she may be, even at her worst she'll still be better than what we have occupying the White House right now.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:28 PM
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3. yeah...
somehow i dont think thats a good enough reason for another year of cheney in office ;)

if thats really the only reason for ya.... well... frankly i kinda feel bad for ya.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:30 PM
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4. Not if we impeach Pelosi and Reid, too!

BARNEY FRANK FOR PRESIDENT IN 2007!



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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:46 PM
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10. Only one word for that:
FABULOUS!

-Hoot
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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:59 PM
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12. FIERCE too!! nt
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:30 PM
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5. If they were to impeach Bush** first, yes
But it'd only be until the election.

Besides, I'm feeling chivalrous. Cheney first.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:33 PM
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6. That'd never happen. It's just total nonsense.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 02:37 PM by TahitiNut
The Senate would never conduct simultaneous impeachment trials even if the Dems were insane enough to attempt to pass Articles of Impeachment on both Cheney and Junior. No way. No how.

Such an approach would CERTAINLY give rise to accusations of "Coup!" and complicate a process that's complicated enough.

While I certainly have a LOT of tolerance for all manner of conjecture, this notion that somehow Pelosi would become President through impeachment is about as ignorantly delusional as it gets, imho.

Were there to be impeachment of both, there's no question in my feeble mind that there'd be an intermediate appointment and confirmation of a new Vice President. No question at all.
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Just-plain-Kathy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:58 PM
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11. I wish dems would just come clean with the American public.
...A coup was already staged, corporate America took over sometime in the late nineties.

Our dems have to grow a spine and get the American people to support the truth.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:16 PM
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16. While we're at it, why not wish that ALL elected polticians would show integrity?
I think it's insane to think that either establishment political party is somehow free (or more obliged to be) of the corruption of wealth and power. But I'm an independent liberal in part because I have that perspective and I remember well the days of Dixiecrats and "southern Democrats." E.g. Zell Miller.

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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:35 PM
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7. No worries- just impeach Cheney first, wait for his replacement
such as Trent Lott, John McCain, even Jeb or Joe Lieberman...it didn't take that long to approve Ford for VP after Agnew left, did it?

Then you impeach Bush.

Voila! No President Pelosi.

I can't imagine anyone, any Republican, who could do worse damage to the Constitution in the remaining months of this administration.

It would be like a sorbet to cleanse the palate after being force fed a shit sandwich...

Then on to the main course: Kucinich in the White House! :-)
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:36 PM
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8. When that great day comes, how about
Pelosi stepping down, and the House electing Al Gore Speaker of the House? He would then become president as Dubya is flown back to Crawford to await indictment for his crimes too numerous to list.

Gore was elected president, after all, and one doesn't have to be a member of the House of Representatives to be elected Speaker.

Oh, well ... one can dream.
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stirlingsliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 02:38 PM
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9. She Is Waaaay Better Than Bush or Cheney
Nancy Pelosi is much, much better than either Bush or Cheney.

Besides, if she were to become President, she could appoint Dennis Kucinich as Vice-President.

And then she could resign.

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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:01 PM
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13. No.
That would not be a result of impeachment.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:02 PM
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14. Not a very compelling argument at all
I can't she how she could possibly be a worse president than Bush or Cheney, no matter how much she panders to the center.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:13 PM
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15. The most compelling argument against that I can think of
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 03:14 PM by hootinholler
Isn't nearly as sexy a title.

As you say, it's not very compelling.

-Hoot
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:17 PM
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17. You're probably not old enough to realize what happens
You have to look at Nixon and Agnew to realize what would happen. First of all, Cheney gets investigated and he will be forced to resign. The Republican Leadership would insist on it. You would have an appointed VP, like McCain. Then investigations would start immediately on Bush. Bush would step down, McCain would be President and choose a VP, probably John Warner, someone with stature who isn't interested in running again.

You could argue that impeachment helps the Republicans because they go into an election year with an incumbent. That would be a more realistic argument than Nancy Polosi being President.

Personally I don't care who it benefits politically, because impeachment would benefit the country morally, spiritually and legally.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:49 PM
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18. Pelosi did not dish out lies which led us into war...
Shooter did.

His actions and those of Shrub's administration has led to countless lives being destroyed or forever changed.

Pelosi has simply been an enabling wimp.

She should get get kicked off her Speaker post, much less be president... but, her lack of action does not excuse Shooter from his.

Shooter deserves to get thrown in jail for committing high crimes - it all starts with impeachment.
I'll take Pelosi as President, albeit undeserving, over Cheney retaining his position any day.

And trying to impeach (regardless of the outcome) says to future history students that SOME TRIED!

Thanks Dennis!
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