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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:19 PM
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Speakers Jim Wright, Tom Foley, and Nancy Pelosi
Remember Jim Wright? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Wright

Tom Foley? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Foley

Those who say Nancy Pelosi is secure in the Speaker's chair might do well to remember her last two Democratic predecessors.

- Dave
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:23 PM
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1. They were tossed out for Ethics violations that had nothing to do with ideology.
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 03:47 PM by onehandle
Nice try.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:25 PM
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2. thank you
:D
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:37 PM
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6. Both Fallen Speakers Started out...
... strongly, but ended up losing the post.

I don't mean to suggest that Speaker Pelosi has ethics problems. But I think a large portion of the caucus believes she's been an ineffective Speaker.

- Dave
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:40 PM
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9. Why do you think that?
just curious about what you've heard in terms of what the caucus thinks about her. I get the impression that there's a real power struggle between her and Hoyer.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:42 PM
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10. Stenny Is a Stooge...
... and I wouldn't bet hard money on him as her replacement.

But - assuming the Dems hold the House and/or gain seats - I expect that she will be challenged.

- Dave
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:54 PM
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12. You're probably right, however,
whenever there is a shift of any size in the House, it's not at all unusual for there to be a challenge for the Speakers chair.
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:48 PM
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11. Then get them to throw her out.
Good luck with that.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:26 PM
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3. Tom Foley was drummed out by the "term limits" repub lie du jour..
by one slimy asshole by the name of George Nethercutt..

After pledging to serve for only three terms, and vowing that he was a "Washington outsider" he "changed his mind" and ran for two more after that, finally quitting his seat to run for the Senate against Patty Murray who whupped his ass.

He's now engaged in "lobbying" with his good buddies and fellow slimeballs J. Steven Griles and Andrew Lundquist. His daughter is also a lobbyist. Right, some outsider.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:35 PM
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4. His district voted him out and a large % thought his replacement would be speaker! nt
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:39 PM
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8. That was definitely collective stupidity on that District's part..
Foley had a whole lot of power and clout in the House, and at least he was an honest man and had some integrity, and they tossed him for a lying scumbag.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:36 PM
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5. Pelosi's district is a bit safer compared to Foley's
San Francisco vs. Spokane, WA.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:38 PM
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7. So, She Keeps Her Seat...
... but the caucus decides if she keeps her post.

- Dave
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:55 PM
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13. They could throw her out as Speaker at amy moment if they wanted to
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 03:56 PM
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14. The Numbers Needed to Change...
... will shift after the election, and a lot of swing districts likely to send new Dems to Congress poll Pelosi very low.

- Dave
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