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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:48 PM
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Reading Tea Leaves in a Hash House? Mark Penn Says Clinton Has 360 Electoral Votes
Edited on Thu Nov-15-07 07:01 PM by CorpGovActivist
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"In fact, if the election were held tomorrow, Hillary would win 360 electoral votes compared with 178 electoral votes for Rudy Giuliani," Clinton chief strategist Mark Penn wrote in a campaign memo.

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Reminds me of Stewie's accidental contact high: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=6120728

Careful where you're reading those internal polls, Mr. Penn.

- Dave
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LSparkle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:49 PM
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1. Did he inherit KKKarl's "(the) math" textbook?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:54 PM
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3. They probably worked on it together the last 8 years.
.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:07 PM
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7. Open Government at Its Finest
:sarcasm:

Howdy, BLM!

- Dave
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:05 PM
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14. Well done!
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:21 PM
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21. Did the Corporatist/Rigged System Meme...
... resonate with you in last night's debate?

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:54 PM
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4. Or Grabbed Dick Morris' 96 Notebook by Mistake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_presidential_election#Results

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Morris

Oops. Wrong Clinton, wrong campaign. Grab the right binder, Mark.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:34 PM
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11. If Mr. Penn Passed the QRR at Harvard...
... I'd be very surprised.

That test - the bane of many a humanities student - forced a minimal understanding of bell curves, standard deviations, and outlier data point analysis on every frosh.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=qrr+harvard

It's old math, best done in a clear room with plenty of ventilation.

- Dave
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katsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:53 PM
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2. I'd be shocked & awed if any of our candidates...
couldn't get 360 EVs after 8 years of shear hell.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:16 PM
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10. In Mark Penn's Whiteboard We Trust...
... must then become the mantra for those who truly believe.

- Dave
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:54 PM
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5. He's probably right based on state polls I've seen.
But that doesn't mean that the others wouldn't win by an even larger margin.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 06:58 PM
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6. That's 110 More Than Kerry
There has been no re-apportionment, unless I slept through a Census.

Which combination of 110 Electoral College votes do you see flipping from 04?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:US_presidential_election_2004_map.svg

- Dave
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:07 PM
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8. On the local npr news this am, the newsanchor said HRC now trailed Guiliani in OH
by 1 point.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:10 PM
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9. Quinnipiac University Poll?
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x1322.xml?ReleaseID=1120

There was a thread about this earlier today: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2287124&mesg_id=2287124

- Dave
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 07:54 PM
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12. He told us numbers so it must be right.
Actually, I hope he's right.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:04 PM
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13. Internal Polling Does Not Consist...
... of polling those inside the campaign, asking them their hometowns, and assigning those states' Electoral College votes to your candidate.

; )

- Dave
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ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:11 PM
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15. RIDICULOUS! We are just under a YEAR OUT...
Anyone who thinks they can predict the future that well is an idiot. Try again when we are 3 weeks out and we know who the general election candidates are, have seen them face off in a debate and the American people are ACTUALLY paying attention.


Doug D.
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 08:24 PM
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16. To Be Fair, He Said "If..."
... it were held today.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-15-07 10:59 PM
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17. Actual Bets at the University of Iowa: Iowa Electronic Markets
Small bets allowed on candidates, with very strong predictive power even this far out: http://www.biz.uiowa.edu/iem/

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:39 AM
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18. Even after Last Night's Debate, Mark Penn Can't...
... convince me that there are 360 Electoral College votes in the Democratic stable.

- Dave
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:00 PM
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19. Well they have BushInc in their corner so they have the optimism of the player
who knows the rigging will favor them.

The Clintons have already proven their cooperation and worth to the DC powerstructure.


BushInc couldn't have survived the 90s without it.

http://consortiumnews.com/2006/111106.html
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:29 PM
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20. The Failure to Investigate...
... and prosecute key players in Bush 41 during Clinton I and II certainly played a significant role in the advent of Bush 43.

- Dave
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CorpGovActivist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:27 PM
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22. Has Any M$M Rep Asked to See the Whiteboard...
... showing 360 votes, let alone the raw data?

- Dave
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