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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:02 PM Original message |
Looks like CNN "Screwed the Kooch" |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. If you compare that to his fundraising percentage compared with the rest, he did VERY well. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Oh? whoever raises the most money should get the most time? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Well, yeah. Fundraising is an indicator of popular support. Even if you don't like it. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. That would be a catch 22. What comes first, the chicken or the egg? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
32. If he'd campaign instead of going off overseas, maybe he'd get more dough. |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:39 AM Response to Reply #32 |
62. Actually... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:45 AM Response to Reply #62 |
69. How does meeting the Syrian President and dissing George Bush "help" his district? |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:44 AM Response to Reply #69 |
75. He's traveled to the Middle East several times. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. He used campaign money to do it. Campaign money from a campaign he isn't going to win. |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:26 AM Response to Reply #69 |
78. You rather he use tax dollars? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:26 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I'd rather he paid for it HIMSELF. Or gone on a CODEL to Iraq, and |
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oldlady (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Fundraising is not always an indicator of popular support |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Well, oldlady, in this case, it IS. He's in single digits, and his coffers are bare. |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #34 |
79. right meanwhile |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Her money, Obama's money, and Edwards' money doesn't just come from |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. air time = money |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. If he took all of the money |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
56. You got it. He's the only candidate without a major corporate sponsor/advocacy group |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:30 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. That's his fault. Why doesn't he have the windmill makers, the health care workers, |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. Gosh, I'm so naive! |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. The 'convention' is also about choosing a general election candidate. |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
55. I don't use the word lightly and not for dramatic effect. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:24 AM Response to Reply #55 |
64. You're extrapolating falsely. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #14 |
52. Deleted message |
Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:14 AM Response to Reply #14 |
53. Fundraising is an indicator of popular support... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:34 AM Response to Reply #53 |
66. Is that how Obama got all that cash in that last fundraising push? |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #66 |
80. The reason it's a vanity candidacy |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. It's a vanity candidacy because he does NOT CAMPAIGN. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #86 |
88. You're kidding right? |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. You're not reading what I wrote, are you? You are having trouble understanding it, if you are. |
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ginchinchili (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #14 |
71. I suppose it's just a coincidence that Bush/Cheney have done favors... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:57 PM Response to Reply #71 |
91. Please. This thread is about "Poor Dennis" not Bush, not Cheney, not Clinton. |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
84. No it isn't, it's an indication of the flow of money-not popular support |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #84 |
92. Tell that to Pat Buchanan, who won NH without any of that Big Money you say triumphs over all. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
2. Best candidate the Dems have |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Personally, if he had had 15 seconds less, |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Actually, I liked that he did that! |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. Agreed. The idea that "might makes right" is terrible policy BOTH foreign and domestic. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
61. Sans pax... n/t |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I can respect the sentiment, but it turned *me* off a bit. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. I agree on that score. NT |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Part of the real problem we have in the party right now is following the wrong advice. |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. I agree with that. Progressives need to control more |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. Hmmm, is there ever in your mind a apropos time to resign in protest? n/t |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. Yes, but not when you are on an upswing... |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. So did I |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. So which Dem candidate is supporting using war as an instrument of agression? |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. Who voted to declare Iranian QUDs terrorists? Who avoided theat vote? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:02 AM Response to Reply #35 |
48. I think they were both pretty clear that they did not believe |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #48 |
58. That being the case they have no worry about his support... |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
60. HRC. n/t |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
24. Honesty again. By damned honesty. He will not support a war of lies. And that is fucking that |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Innuendo isn't total honesty. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. He said he would not support the war of lies, which dems do? |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. I think he said something more like "War as an instrument of |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:58 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. And that would begin with end the fucking war. 1.2 -1.6 trillion |
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Ravy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Well, yeah... |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
5. nice innuendo |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
6. Fuck them. Dennis still got a standing O when he said IMPEACHMENT NOW. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
26. Hello? That IS the truth of the matter! EXACTLY! |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Zactly...corporatemediawhores |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #31 |
59. Bingo, I've never seen it as blatant in my lifetime. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
93. Corporatemediawhores are acting |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. Wolf was really trying to cut him off when he brought up Impeachment |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
11. They stacked the audience and then didn't control them, either. |
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Audio_Al (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. "Stacked the audience" is pretty strong. EDITED OUT NUMBER HERE. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. 51% of WHAT "people"? And please be specific. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:26 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. The pre show, as Al said, did say that fifty one percent of the primary voters |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. So I'm trusting a CNN poll before a debate? |
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Audio_Al (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. No need to fly off the handle. We're just talking here. Don't rely on it if you don't want to. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. I was responding to someone else. |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Well, I answered you there, pal--and it turns out you were WRONG. NT |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Feel better? |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
68. *odd little crickets here this evening* |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #22 |
40. Deleted sub-thread |
Audio_Al (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Strike it. Sorry, Flvegan, I really don't remember it exactly. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. You fell asleep!!11!!11 You're no Dem, then! |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. stacking the audience has nothing to do with actual support in the State |
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Audio_Al (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Jack, just WHO DO YOU support right now? |
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JackORoses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. it's obvious those people cheering Hillary and booing theothers were, in fact, Hillary Supporters |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. It's important to avoid the use of the impersonal 'you' on DU, imho. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. You got it. Exactly. The "American Idol" corruption disgusts me. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 12:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
63. "Reducing it to some WWF sideshow is despicable...", and yet quintessentially American. n/t |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #25 |
44. The number came from a CNN poll. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. You mean...plants? |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-15-07 11:20 PM Response to Original message |
13. I agree he wasn't given a chance. |
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deacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 06:18 AM Response to Original message |
70. He made the most sense. n/t |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
72. Very intteresting....Because the most memorable and meaningful speaking in my mind came from the |
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youthere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
73. Again..you forgot to add "again" |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 07:54 AM Response to Original message |
74. Who's surprised? |
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Terri S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
76. Kooch is always getting screwd |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 09:12 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Kucinich got much more time than his appeal would suggest. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-16-07 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
82. Maybe Kucinich doesn't need all the extra time since he |
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