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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:19 AM Original message |
Baseball juices, Bonds wins the lottery, and here comes the lynch mob |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 AM Original message |
Bump! |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
1. Bump! |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
2. Excellent |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
3. More - great article by Dave Zirin in counterpunch today |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-17-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Let's give this another go-around |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
5. Barry Bonds will get cancer, too |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:10 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Aside from baseball... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think that you're being a bit disingenous here |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. ... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. If you were right, there are plenty of white players who'd be up for poster boy. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. How many white boys have done what Bonds has done? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Is the trial over? I didn't know that. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. *Sigh* No, the trial is not over, hell it might even wind up like that of that other black man |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. This is the problem we face as consumers of news. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. You should turn that critical eye back upon yourself also. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. No, I haven't done that. You are mistaken or misreading. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Then what is your opinion? Is Bonds guilty or not? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. Please... |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. You smacked that one into McCovey Cove |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You know and I know that Bonds has been stalked from the get go. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. So we should look the other way when a black ball player commits a crime, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It isn't "perceived racism" when it's happening. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Strawman pat, and faux outrage, I thought you better than that |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. There is nothing subtle about the campaign to crucify Bonds. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I think that you are conflating the reaction in SF with the reaction in the baseball world, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #32 |
43. You may be right. When a crowd gathers around a fallen hero |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. You spoke of Mays earlier |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. He married a white woman. It would be interesting to go back and look |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:37 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. Or, rather, it could have something to do with how |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #18 |
31. We 'single out' W for governmental wrong-doing |
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mac56 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
27. bravo |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #7 |
34. Bonds isn't the one at the top... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Excellent post |
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Postman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. If Bonds had the personality of a Tony Gwynn would it make a difference? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. The SF Chronicle has been on an outright crusade to take him down. |
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brettdale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. The problem with bonds |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I couldn't stand Bonds when he first came here. |
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Oeditpus Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Bonds has matured? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. I said he's matured, not that he's a grown up. |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #13 |
39. Or rather, |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Still, No conviction coming from a SF jury |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
28. Couldn't say it better |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
37. Oh, yes, it's racism. White America is upset about a powerful black man. |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-18-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Know your history before you mouth off, please... |
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Basileus Basileon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 12:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Yes, racist fuckwads did dislike Hank Aaron. I'm sure racist fuckwads also dislike Barry Bonds. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
44. absolute trust in our government and justice system when it comes to Bonds... |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Funny to see, too, because it's the first big action of... |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. big govt and the media are always right when it comes to exposing the evil black man. nt. |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
46. Actually, Jason Giambi had a benign tumor |
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Nye Bevan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
47. Whether you are Martha Stewart, Bernard Kerik, or Barry Bonds, don't lie to the feds. |
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Zavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 04:31 PM Response to Original message |
48. How many lied under oath? |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. For the last time... |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:45 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Before and After Pictures |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
53. How do you get 'Just us' from a broken system? |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-19-07 11:54 PM Response to Original message |
54. The elephant isnt race ...the elephant |
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